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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,185
    It's a very strange response. That guy should resign immediately.
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  • tbergs
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    What a sleazy move and the whole private swearing in for the city council. This town sounds fucked.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    Cropduster-80 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    static111 said:
    BALLBOY said:
    Is it illegal to not own a gun in Texas??
    I don't own a gun, nor does my wife nor my 10 year old daughter.  I'm sure we are in the minority.  At 40 having lived in some really rough neighborhoods in my younger days and never having needed a gun or having been so afraid I would justify getting one, I feel the best thing to do is go with what works which is not owning a gun.
    You can make choices for yourself, as an adult...but your ten-year-old child doesn't have a gun? What kind of parents are you? You're lucky I'm not a mandated reporter or Child Protection would be on their way.
    The majority of people I’m aware of don’t secure their guns.  Having a gun in the house is by default, the ten year old’s gun. I’ve been in houses before with guns loose on counters etc 

    there is no law I’m aware of that deals with gun storage. There should be 

    in 21 states kids 12 or younger can hunt alone, literally by themselves. They aren’t old enough to drive there but you can drop them off and leave them with their gun. So a ten year old with a gun is absolutely nothing CPS cares about . In Texas you have to be 9
     

    If you were born on or after Sept. 2, 1971, and you are:

    • Under 9 years of age: You must be accompanied. Accompanied means: By a person (resident or non-resident) who is at least 17, who is licensed to hunt in Texas, who has passed hunter education or is exempt (born before Sept. 2, 1971), and you must be within normal voice control.
    • Age 9 through 16: You must successfully complete a hunter education course or be accompanied.
    I hate to pull a "meanwhile, in Canada..." moment here, but I would just like to say that I have only seen a gun in the possession of a civilian once in my entire life. The US gun culture is INSANE. I'm not sure if Americans really appreciate just how nuts it actually is.

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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,604
    PJ_Soul said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    static111 said:
    BALLBOY said:
    Is it illegal to not own a gun in Texas??
    I don't own a gun, nor does my wife nor my 10 year old daughter.  I'm sure we are in the minority.  At 40 having lived in some really rough neighborhoods in my younger days and never having needed a gun or having been so afraid I would justify getting one, I feel the best thing to do is go with what works which is not owning a gun.
    You can make choices for yourself, as an adult...but your ten-year-old child doesn't have a gun? What kind of parents are you? You're lucky I'm not a mandated reporter or Child Protection would be on their way.
    The majority of people I’m aware of don’t secure their guns.  Having a gun in the house is by default, the ten year old’s gun. I’ve been in houses before with guns loose on counters etc 

    there is no law I’m aware of that deals with gun storage. There should be 

    in 21 states kids 12 or younger can hunt alone, literally by themselves. They aren’t old enough to drive there but you can drop them off and leave them with their gun. So a ten year old with a gun is absolutely nothing CPS cares about . In Texas you have to be 9
     

    If you were born on or after Sept. 2, 1971, and you are:

    • Under 9 years of age: You must be accompanied. Accompanied means: By a person (resident or non-resident) who is at least 17, who is licensed to hunt in Texas, who has passed hunter education or is exempt (born before Sept. 2, 1971), and you must be within normal voice control.
    • Age 9 through 16: You must successfully complete a hunter education course or be accompanied.
    I hate to pull a "meanwhile, in Canada..." moment here, but I would just like to say that I have only seen a gun in the possession of a civilian once in my entire life. The US gun culture is INSANE. I'm not sure if Americans really appreciate just how nuts it actually is.

    They don’t till it happens to their own family! 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,196
    josevolution said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    static111 said:
    BALLBOY said:
    Is it illegal to not own a gun in Texas??
    I don't own a gun, nor does my wife nor my 10 year old daughter.  I'm sure we are in the minority.  At 40 having lived in some really rough neighborhoods in my younger days and never having needed a gun or having been so afraid I would justify getting one, I feel the best thing to do is go with what works which is not owning a gun.
    You can make choices for yourself, as an adult...but your ten-year-old child doesn't have a gun? What kind of parents are you? You're lucky I'm not a mandated reporter or Child Protection would be on their way.
    The majority of people I’m aware of don’t secure their guns.  Having a gun in the house is by default, the ten year old’s gun. I’ve been in houses before with guns loose on counters etc 

    there is no law I’m aware of that deals with gun storage. There should be 

    in 21 states kids 12 or younger can hunt alone, literally by themselves. They aren’t old enough to drive there but you can drop them off and leave them with their gun. So a ten year old with a gun is absolutely nothing CPS cares about . In Texas you have to be 9
     

    If you were born on or after Sept. 2, 1971, and you are:

    • Under 9 years of age: You must be accompanied. Accompanied means: By a person (resident or non-resident) who is at least 17, who is licensed to hunt in Texas, who has passed hunter education or is exempt (born before Sept. 2, 1971), and you must be within normal voice control.
    • Age 9 through 16: You must successfully complete a hunter education course or be accompanied.
    I hate to pull a "meanwhile, in Canada..." moment here, but I would just like to say that I have only seen a gun in the possession of a civilian once in my entire life. The US gun culture is INSANE. I'm not sure if Americans really appreciate just how nuts it actually is.

    They don’t till it happens to their own family! 
    And even then they may not care. Freedumb.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    static111 said:
    The new normal.  Man who was open carrying, robbed at gunpoint in grocery store, goes to get another gun from car, shootout ensues, innocent bystanders hit.  The New Normal Folks.   @Halifax2TheMax You will love this one. https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime/shooting-incident-north-st-louis-county-grocery-store-wellston-food-market/63-d569c7f8-e6ba-4f09-9181-bd73079d7b1a
    ah yes. i know where this is. maybe 15 minutes north from where i live. wellson had corrupt cops and their pd was disbanded and rolled in to one where other departments in north st louis county cover it. 

    this is the kind of idiocracy crap we are bound to see more of as guns get easier to get.

    it is the wild west of stupid around here sometimes.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    PJ_Soul said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    static111 said:
    BALLBOY said:
    Is it illegal to not own a gun in Texas??
    I don't own a gun, nor does my wife nor my 10 year old daughter.  I'm sure we are in the minority.  At 40 having lived in some really rough neighborhoods in my younger days and never having needed a gun or having been so afraid I would justify getting one, I feel the best thing to do is go with what works which is not owning a gun.
    You can make choices for yourself, as an adult...but your ten-year-old child doesn't have a gun? What kind of parents are you? You're lucky I'm not a mandated reporter or Child Protection would be on their way.
    The majority of people I’m aware of don’t secure their guns.  Having a gun in the house is by default, the ten year old’s gun. I’ve been in houses before with guns loose on counters etc 

    there is no law I’m aware of that deals with gun storage. There should be 

    in 21 states kids 12 or younger can hunt alone, literally by themselves. They aren’t old enough to drive there but you can drop them off and leave them with their gun. So a ten year old with a gun is absolutely nothing CPS cares about . In Texas you have to be 9
     

    If you were born on or after Sept. 2, 1971, and you are:

    • Under 9 years of age: You must be accompanied. Accompanied means: By a person (resident or non-resident) who is at least 17, who is licensed to hunt in Texas, who has passed hunter education or is exempt (born before Sept. 2, 1971), and you must be within normal voice control.
    • Age 9 through 16: You must successfully complete a hunter education course or be accompanied.
    I hate to pull a "meanwhile, in Canada..." moment here, but I would just like to say that I have only seen a gun in the possession of a civilian once in my entire life. The US gun culture is INSANE. I'm not sure if Americans really appreciate just how nuts it actually is.

    I never have. I've lived in primarily left-leaning places with some exposure to just about every type of place in the US. I really don't think seeing someone with a long gun strapped to their back will make me feel particularly safe. It might even upset me more than seeing someone alone in their car with a mask on.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited June 2022
    Another one. Multiple people shot, some killed at Tulsa, Oklahoma medical centre. Authorities currently searching for victims floor by floor, room by room.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Nothing can be done. Thoughts and prayers and prayers and thoughts.
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  • The Juggler
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    These god damned gun folks are simply NOT PRAYING HARD ENOUGH.

    I'm sorry but that is what this comes down to. PRAY AND THINK GOD DAMN IT! HARDER!!!!!!

    Sons of bitches
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,781
    edited June 2022
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Nothing can be done. Thoughts and prayers and prayers and thoughts.

    That’s where you’re wrong. 

    We can think more thoughts, and we can pray more prayers. 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,604
    The Juggler said:
    These god damned gun folks are simply NOT PRAYING HARD ENOUGH.

    I'm sorry but that is what this comes down to. PRAY AND THINK GOD DAMN IT! HARDER!!!!!!

    Sons of bitches
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,604
    No matter where you work every Goddamn profession has been violated by gun violence! 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/multiple-victims-shooting-tulsa-hospital-gunman-police-say-rcna31551?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR3FO4rfL0_Bbqn7XNQAlIBUg68L5fK0uDauFrFkvNC1rd6tluUcpbXFOok

    add hospitals to the list of places we can't go now. i guess i need to find a new job...

    fucking guns.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,196
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/multiple-victims-shooting-tulsa-hospital-gunman-police-say-rcna31551?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR3FO4rfL0_Bbqn7XNQAlIBUg68L5fK0uDauFrFkvNC1rd6tluUcpbXFOok

    add hospitals to the list of places we can't go now. i guess i need to find a new job...

    fucking guns.
    They just need one door. Problem solved. One big, beautiful, strong door, folks.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/multiple-victims-shooting-tulsa-hospital-gunman-police-say-rcna31551?cid=sm_npd_nn_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR3FO4rfL0_Bbqn7XNQAlIBUg68L5fK0uDauFrFkvNC1rd6tluUcpbXFOok

    add hospitals to the list of places we can't go now. i guess i need to find a new job...

    fucking guns.
    They just need one door. Problem solved. One big, beautiful, strong door, folks.
    some nurse probably left a door propped open, so it's her fault, since the gunman wouldn't have been able to navigate the revolving door on his own. 
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,781
    We just have to make every place in the country a harder target. 
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    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,418
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    at least the cops showed up and did their jobs this time. kudos to them for that.
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  • mace1229
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    PJ_Soul said:
    Cropduster-80 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    static111 said:
    BALLBOY said:
    Is it illegal to not own a gun in Texas??
    I don't own a gun, nor does my wife nor my 10 year old daughter.  I'm sure we are in the minority.  At 40 having lived in some really rough neighborhoods in my younger days and never having needed a gun or having been so afraid I would justify getting one, I feel the best thing to do is go with what works which is not owning a gun.
    You can make choices for yourself, as an adult...but your ten-year-old child doesn't have a gun? What kind of parents are you? You're lucky I'm not a mandated reporter or Child Protection would be on their way.
    The majority of people I’m aware of don’t secure their guns.  Having a gun in the house is by default, the ten year old’s gun. I’ve been in houses before with guns loose on counters etc 

    there is no law I’m aware of that deals with gun storage. There should be 

    in 21 states kids 12 or younger can hunt alone, literally by themselves. They aren’t old enough to drive there but you can drop them off and leave them with their gun. So a ten year old with a gun is absolutely nothing CPS cares about . In Texas you have to be 9
     

    If you were born on or after Sept. 2, 1971, and you are:

    • Under 9 years of age: You must be accompanied. Accompanied means: By a person (resident or non-resident) who is at least 17, who is licensed to hunt in Texas, who has passed hunter education or is exempt (born before Sept. 2, 1971), and you must be within normal voice control.
    • Age 9 through 16: You must successfully complete a hunter education course or be accompanied.
    I hate to pull a "meanwhile, in Canada..." moment here, but I would just like to say that I have only seen a gun in the possession of a civilian once in my entire life. The US gun culture is INSANE. I'm not sure if Americans really appreciate just how nuts it actually is.

    Other than a gun range or gun show, the number of civilians I’ve seen with a gun are probably in single digits. I’m sure a lot conceal carry, but seeing open carry is pretty rare.
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