America's Gun Violence #2
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Looks like more great news for Uvalde PD.
Texas police who responded to Tuesday's mass shooting at a Uvalde, Texas, elementary school wouldn't let a tactical squad of federal agents immediately go into the school to stop the gunman, two officials briefed on the situation told New York Times.
The officials told the Times that the Border Patrol and Immigration and Customs Enforcement tactical team was forced to wait nearly an hour before they went in and shot and killed the gunman, who massacred 19 children and two adults at Robb Elementary School.
This story is developing. Please check back for updates.
Texas Police Prevented Federal Agents From Stopping Gunman: NYT (insider.com)
It's a hopeless situation...0 -
how does a local police force overrule a federal tactical team?Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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Nah, it was this comment that NO ONE batted an eye at...cincybearcat said:
Yeah the convo was headed completely in the right direction when we were talking about kids getting shot at school.. but now....shit, better get out of here and head to Houston.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm sorry that you are afraid to do anything. You shouldn't have to live life that way. I don't think like that and I ride the subways here in NYC. There is a better chance I win the lotto then getting shot. I think that way to put things in perspective and not live in fear.Halifax2TheMax said:
It crosses my mind every time I go to the supermarket, ride public transit or attend a sporting event or any event with a crowd. It sucks to go through life lately thinking at any time you might be a victim of a shooting. All because the gun nutters want guns everywhere without restrictions, or very few. Except at the NRA convention where loaded, open/concealed carry is banned.tempo_n_groove said:
That thought has crossed my mind every time I went to one. I won't lie.Halifax2TheMax said:What if a bad guy with a gun shows up at the convention of good guys with guns and the good guys with guns have to use their buck knives to cut the zip ties and then scramble to find the ammo for their clips? Imagine the carnage?
What makes POOTWH’s, or any politician’s, life more valuable than those kids’ or grocery shoppers’ in Buffalo? Or any victim? The myth and the hypocrisy are astounding. Good luck.
Time to tap out of here for a while as this is where the convo turns south...
Have fun among yourselves.Gern Blansten said:
crossed your mind? or was part of your fantasy?tempo_n_groove said:
That thought has crossed my mind every time I went to one. I won't lie.Halifax2TheMax said:What if a bad guy with a gun shows up at the convention of good guys with guns and the good guys with guns have to use their buck knives to cut the zip ties and then scramble to find the ammo for their clips? Imagine the carnage?
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yes you were so abused....my comment meant your assumed fantasy about having to scramble to use your weapon
It was a joke. I apologized. Move on.
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I don’t own firearms and my fantasies don’t include being a victim of gun violence, mass shooting or otherwise. But, unfortunately, my anxiety does. Gee, wonder why?tempo_n_groove said:
Nah, it was this comment that NO ONE batted an eye at...cincybearcat said:
Yeah the convo was headed completely in the right direction when we were talking about kids getting shot at school.. but now....shit, better get out of here and head to Houston.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm sorry that you are afraid to do anything. You shouldn't have to live life that way. I don't think like that and I ride the subways here in NYC. There is a better chance I win the lotto then getting shot. I think that way to put things in perspective and not live in fear.Halifax2TheMax said:
It crosses my mind every time I go to the supermarket, ride public transit or attend a sporting event or any event with a crowd. It sucks to go through life lately thinking at any time you might be a victim of a shooting. All because the gun nutters want guns everywhere without restrictions, or very few. Except at the NRA convention where loaded, open/concealed carry is banned.tempo_n_groove said:
That thought has crossed my mind every time I went to one. I won't lie.Halifax2TheMax said:What if a bad guy with a gun shows up at the convention of good guys with guns and the good guys with guns have to use their buck knives to cut the zip ties and then scramble to find the ammo for their clips? Imagine the carnage?
What makes POOTWH’s, or any politician’s, life more valuable than those kids’ or grocery shoppers’ in Buffalo? Or any victim? The myth and the hypocrisy are astounding. Good luck.
Time to tap out of here for a while as this is where the convo turns south...
Have fun among yourselves.Gern Blansten said:
crossed your mind? or was part of your fantasy?tempo_n_groove said:
That thought has crossed my mind every time I went to one. I won't lie.Halifax2TheMax said:What if a bad guy with a gun shows up at the convention of good guys with guns and the good guys with guns have to use their buck knives to cut the zip ties and then scramble to find the ammo for their clips? Imagine the carnage?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Pretty sick fucking joke Hoss... Again no one batted an eye...Gern Blansten said:yes you were so abused....my comment meant your assumed fantasy about having to scramble to use your weapon
It was a joke. I apologized. Move on.0 -
again....you related the joke to carnage. I was relating the joke to scrambling to use your weapon. Bad joke given the circumstances. I can't say much more than that.tempo_n_groove said:
Pretty sick fucking joke Hoss... Again no one batted an eye...Gern Blansten said:yes you were so abused....my comment meant your assumed fantasy about having to scramble to use your weapon
It was a joke. I apologized. Move on.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
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Thanks. The school wasn't in very good lockdown if she was able to grab her kids from 2 different grades and get them out...HughFreakingDillon said:https://www.insider.com/texas-mom-ran-school-pulled-two-kids-out-uvalde-shooting-2022-5?inline-endstory-related-recommendations=
not sure if it was posted, but I think @tempo_n_groove wanted to read about this story
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And it also backs up that the police had the gunman isolated so that she was able to do that.tempo_n_groove said:
Thanks. The school wasn't in very good lockdown if she was able to grab her kids from 2 different grades and get them out...HughFreakingDillon said:https://www.insider.com/texas-mom-ran-school-pulled-two-kids-out-uvalde-shooting-2022-5?inline-endstory-related-recommendations=
not sure if it was posted, but I think @tempo_n_groove wanted to read about this storyRemember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
I think cause most of us took it like gern meant it. plus, he apologized. No need to swede/dave a this scenario.tempo_n_groove said:
Pretty sick fucking joke Hoss... Again no one batted an eye...Gern Blansten said:yes you were so abused....my comment meant your assumed fantasy about having to scramble to use your weapon
It was a joke. I apologized. Move on.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
19 little kids are dead. I think we can all handle some misconstrued words on a bands website. Jesus. I knew what he meant and I also read his apology after.It's a hopeless situation...0
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Yeah I could see that. I understood it to be a joke, but I can see how it's a comment that makes it hard to continue debate. But I don't think he meant it as personal as it came across.tempo_n_groove said:
Nah, it was this comment that NO ONE batted an eye at...cincybearcat said:
Yeah the convo was headed completely in the right direction when we were talking about kids getting shot at school.. but now....shit, better get out of here and head to Houston.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm sorry that you are afraid to do anything. You shouldn't have to live life that way. I don't think like that and I ride the subways here in NYC. There is a better chance I win the lotto then getting shot. I think that way to put things in perspective and not live in fear.Halifax2TheMax said:
It crosses my mind every time I go to the supermarket, ride public transit or attend a sporting event or any event with a crowd. It sucks to go through life lately thinking at any time you might be a victim of a shooting. All because the gun nutters want guns everywhere without restrictions, or very few. Except at the NRA convention where loaded, open/concealed carry is banned.tempo_n_groove said:
That thought has crossed my mind every time I went to one. I won't lie.Halifax2TheMax said:What if a bad guy with a gun shows up at the convention of good guys with guns and the good guys with guns have to use their buck knives to cut the zip ties and then scramble to find the ammo for their clips? Imagine the carnage?
What makes POOTWH’s, or any politician’s, life more valuable than those kids’ or grocery shoppers’ in Buffalo? Or any victim? The myth and the hypocrisy are astounding. Good luck.
Time to tap out of here for a while as this is where the convo turns south...
Have fun among yourselves.Gern Blansten said:
crossed your mind? or was part of your fantasy?tempo_n_groove said:
That thought has crossed my mind every time I went to one. I won't lie.Halifax2TheMax said:What if a bad guy with a gun shows up at the convention of good guys with guns and the good guys with guns have to use their buck knives to cut the zip ties and then scramble to find the ammo for their clips? Imagine the carnage?
Honestly though in gun control debate....it bothers me that we always focus on what we need to ban....instead of what shouldn't be banned.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Gern Blansten said:
again....you related the joke to carnage. I was relating the joke to scrambling to use your weapon. Bad joke given the circumstances. I can't say much more than that.tempo_n_groove said:
Pretty sick fucking joke Hoss... Again no one batted an eye...Gern Blansten said:yes you were so abused....my comment meant your assumed fantasy about having to scramble to use your weapon
It was a joke. I apologized. Move on.
Dropping it...Post edited by tempo_n_groove on0 -
No way a school on lockdown w an active shooter should have a person come in and be able to retrieve their kids and no one stopped them, someone opened a door to allow them in...Gern Blansten said:
And it also backs up that the police had the gunman isolated so that she was able to do that.tempo_n_groove said:
Thanks. The school wasn't in very good lockdown if she was able to grab her kids from 2 different grades and get them out...HughFreakingDillon said:https://www.insider.com/texas-mom-ran-school-pulled-two-kids-out-uvalde-shooting-2022-5?inline-endstory-related-recommendations=
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hard to stop a mother....she probably wasn't going to stop for anyone or anythingtempo_n_groove said:
No way a school on lockdown w an active shooter should have a person come in and be able to retrieve their kids and no one stopped them, someone opened a door to allow them in...Gern Blansten said:
And it also backs up that the police had the gunman isolated so that she was able to do that.tempo_n_groove said:
Thanks. The school wasn't in very good lockdown if she was able to grab her kids from 2 different grades and get them out...HughFreakingDillon said:https://www.insider.com/texas-mom-ran-school-pulled-two-kids-out-uvalde-shooting-2022-5?inline-endstory-related-recommendations=
not sure if it was posted, but I think @tempo_n_groove wanted to read about this storyRemember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
Unlocked doors and locked doors are to blame here. I wish they could decide what the school is supposed to doRather than immediately breach the classroom and engage with the gunman, McCraw said the commander — who he later identified as the school district's chief of police — decided that, "There was time to retrieve the keys, and wait for a tactical team with the equipment to go ahead and breach the door and take on the subject."
an unlocked door allowed the gunman to enter, a locked door kept the police out. School is screwed either wayPost edited by Cropduster-80 on0 -
Jesus fucking Christ.tbergs said:Looks like more great news for Uvalde PD.Texas police who responded to Tuesday's mass shooting at a Uvalde, Texas, elementary school wouldn't let a tactical squad of federal agents immediately go into the school to stop the gunman, two officials briefed on the situation told New York Times.
The officials told the Times that the Border Patrol and Immigration and Customs Enforcement tactical team was forced to wait nearly an hour before they went in and shot and killed the gunman, who massacred 19 children and two adults at Robb Elementary School.
This story is developing. Please check back for updates.
Texas Police Prevented Federal Agents From Stopping Gunman: NYT (insider.com)
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I don't see how you don't find anything wrong with what happened?Gern Blansten said:
hard to stop a mother....she probably wasn't going to stop for anyone or anythingtempo_n_groove said:
No way a school on lockdown w an active shooter should have a person come in and be able to retrieve their kids and no one stopped them, someone opened a door to allow them in...Gern Blansten said:
And it also backs up that the police had the gunman isolated so that she was able to do that.tempo_n_groove said:
Thanks. The school wasn't in very good lockdown if she was able to grab her kids from 2 different grades and get them out...HughFreakingDillon said:https://www.insider.com/texas-mom-ran-school-pulled-two-kids-out-uvalde-shooting-2022-5?inline-endstory-related-recommendations=
not sure if it was posted, but I think @tempo_n_groove wanted to read about this story0 -
are you surmising the school wasn't really on lockdown or something? isn't lockdown procedural until the authorities get there? a school can't still be on full lockdown if the police need to get in and outtempo_n_groove said:
I don't see how you don't find anything wrong with what happened?Gern Blansten said:
hard to stop a mother....she probably wasn't going to stop for anyone or anythingtempo_n_groove said:
No way a school on lockdown w an active shooter should have a person come in and be able to retrieve their kids and no one stopped them, someone opened a door to allow them in...Gern Blansten said:
And it also backs up that the police had the gunman isolated so that she was able to do that.tempo_n_groove said:
Thanks. The school wasn't in very good lockdown if she was able to grab her kids from 2 different grades and get them out...HughFreakingDillon said:https://www.insider.com/texas-mom-ran-school-pulled-two-kids-out-uvalde-shooting-2022-5?inline-endstory-related-recommendations=
not sure if it was posted, but I think @tempo_n_groove wanted to read about this storyYour boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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