America's Gun Violence #2
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Gern Blansten said:These were my neighbors until about six months ago when they moved. Strange that they felt this would make a nice family photo. The two boys clearly are not comfortable holding those guns....kind of an awkward pose. Oh....and check out the white power symbol flash....am I overthinking that???
I've mentioned them before on here. They had a sign in their backyard near their dock that says "This property protected by the 2A"....like lake pirates were going to storm their property or something.
Interesting note....the young girl (now she is 17-18) is currently in our local jail for theft. She has been there for about a month awaiting trial because she didn't show up for her initial hearing. Great family.www.myspace.com0 -
tbergs said:mace1229 said:tbergs said:brianlux said:mace1229 said:brianlux said:HughFreakingDillon said:The Juggler said:HughFreakingDillon said:well I sure hope that if any legislation is made that they care about "semantics".
it's less semantics and more clarification for the purposes of discussion. not sure what the problem is with that.
For those who want to discuss the fine points of gun legislation, the details would be important, for sure.
I guess you could say my perspective is more general. From my way of looking at it, the finer details are not so important- I just want to see firearms that are capable of firing several rounds rapidly and killing large numbers of people kept out of the hands of civilians.
I should probably steer clear of the more technical discussions here.
I mentioned a few times a fixed magazine. I haven’t pointed out that the definition of a fixed magazine is stupid. It’s fixed if it requires a “tool” to remove. A tool could be the point of a pen, or more commonly the tip of a bullet. So they make the button too small for a finger, but the tip of a bullet fits and now it’s considered a fixed magazine, even though it can still be released in about 1.2 seconds. I would think that’s worth knowing for anyone who wants to see new laws.
So not only do we need to require fixed magazines, we need to redefine what that is.I think I was pretty clear about what I'd like to see happen, but I'll say it again:I want to see firearms that are capable of firing several rounds rapidly and killing large numbers of people kept out of the hands of civilians.I see no reason to add any further technical details to that. You either agree, or not.
No one expected Brian to name anything. Just adding to the discussion of what should be done. But this is the result when the “other side” joins the conversation, so they rarely do.
I'll keep waiting on that NRA funded GOP senator or congress person to reach across the aisle and introduce any new legislation to help prevent gun violence...09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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tbergs said:mace1229 said:tbergs said:brianlux said:mace1229 said:brianlux said:HughFreakingDillon said:The Juggler said:HughFreakingDillon said:well I sure hope that if any legislation is made that they care about "semantics".
it's less semantics and more clarification for the purposes of discussion. not sure what the problem is with that.
For those who want to discuss the fine points of gun legislation, the details would be important, for sure.
I guess you could say my perspective is more general. From my way of looking at it, the finer details are not so important- I just want to see firearms that are capable of firing several rounds rapidly and killing large numbers of people kept out of the hands of civilians.
I should probably steer clear of the more technical discussions here.
I mentioned a few times a fixed magazine. I haven’t pointed out that the definition of a fixed magazine is stupid. It’s fixed if it requires a “tool” to remove. A tool could be the point of a pen, or more commonly the tip of a bullet. So they make the button too small for a finger, but the tip of a bullet fits and now it’s considered a fixed magazine, even though it can still be released in about 1.2 seconds. I would think that’s worth knowing for anyone who wants to see new laws.
So not only do we need to require fixed magazines, we need to redefine what that is.I think I was pretty clear about what I'd like to see happen, but I'll say it again:I want to see firearms that are capable of firing several rounds rapidly and killing large numbers of people kept out of the hands of civilians.I see no reason to add any further technical details to that. You either agree, or not.
No one expected Brian to name anything. Just adding to the discussion of what should be done. But this is the result when the “other side” joins the conversation, so they rarely do.
I'll keep waiting on that NRA funded GOP senator or congress person to reach across the aisle and introduce any new legislation to help prevent gun violence...This is exactly why democrats are lost and will lose again. They need to stop talking to Republican senators and reps and start talking to the American people. Republicans will do nothing about these repeated deaths and complaining about their inaction is a waste of time. Make that case to voters right now, not in September when everyone forgets this tragedy.
”this November, if you want to do something about these needless deaths, vote for democrats. If you don’t, this will continue.”0 -
tbergs said:mace1229 said:tbergs said:brianlux said:mace1229 said:brianlux said:HughFreakingDillon said:The Juggler said:HughFreakingDillon said:well I sure hope that if any legislation is made that they care about "semantics".
it's less semantics and more clarification for the purposes of discussion. not sure what the problem is with that.
For those who want to discuss the fine points of gun legislation, the details would be important, for sure.
I guess you could say my perspective is more general. From my way of looking at it, the finer details are not so important- I just want to see firearms that are capable of firing several rounds rapidly and killing large numbers of people kept out of the hands of civilians.
I should probably steer clear of the more technical discussions here.
I mentioned a few times a fixed magazine. I haven’t pointed out that the definition of a fixed magazine is stupid. It’s fixed if it requires a “tool” to remove. A tool could be the point of a pen, or more commonly the tip of a bullet. So they make the button too small for a finger, but the tip of a bullet fits and now it’s considered a fixed magazine, even though it can still be released in about 1.2 seconds. I would think that’s worth knowing for anyone who wants to see new laws.
So not only do we need to require fixed magazines, we need to redefine what that is.I think I was pretty clear about what I'd like to see happen, but I'll say it again:I want to see firearms that are capable of firing several rounds rapidly and killing large numbers of people kept out of the hands of civilians.I see no reason to add any further technical details to that. You either agree, or not.
No one expected Brian to name anything. Just adding to the discussion of what should be done. But this is the result when the “other side” joins the conversation, so they rarely do.
I'll keep waiting on that NRA funded GOP senator or congress person to reach across the aisle and introduce any new legislation to help prevent gun violence...You are absolutely correct in your responses above and I seriously can’t tell you in words how much I appreciate them. This semantics issue is just the latest bullshit in a whole list of excuses for justifying that they care more about their guns then children’s lives.0 -
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Poncier said:Bentleyspop said:American exceptionalism....0
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cblock4life said:tbergs said:mace1229 said:tbergs said:brianlux said:mace1229 said:brianlux said:HughFreakingDillon said:The Juggler said:HughFreakingDillon said:well I sure hope that if any legislation is made that they care about "semantics".
it's less semantics and more clarification for the purposes of discussion. not sure what the problem is with that.
For those who want to discuss the fine points of gun legislation, the details would be important, for sure.
I guess you could say my perspective is more general. From my way of looking at it, the finer details are not so important- I just want to see firearms that are capable of firing several rounds rapidly and killing large numbers of people kept out of the hands of civilians.
I should probably steer clear of the more technical discussions here.
I mentioned a few times a fixed magazine. I haven’t pointed out that the definition of a fixed magazine is stupid. It’s fixed if it requires a “tool” to remove. A tool could be the point of a pen, or more commonly the tip of a bullet. So they make the button too small for a finger, but the tip of a bullet fits and now it’s considered a fixed magazine, even though it can still be released in about 1.2 seconds. I would think that’s worth knowing for anyone who wants to see new laws.
So not only do we need to require fixed magazines, we need to redefine what that is.I think I was pretty clear about what I'd like to see happen, but I'll say it again:I want to see firearms that are capable of firing several rounds rapidly and killing large numbers of people kept out of the hands of civilians.I see no reason to add any further technical details to that. You either agree, or not.
No one expected Brian to name anything. Just adding to the discussion of what should be done. But this is the result when the “other side” joins the conversation, so they rarely do.
I'll keep waiting on that NRA funded GOP senator or congress person to reach across the aisle and introduce any new legislation to help prevent gun violence...You are absolutely correct in your responses above and I seriously can’t tell you in words how much I appreciate them. This semantics issue is just the latest bullshit in a whole list of excuses for justifying that they care more about their guns then children’s lives.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Poncier said:Bentleyspop said:American exceptionalism....www.myspace.com0
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I recommend watching "Moment of Silence," episode two of The Premise, an anthology series created by BJ Novak on Hulu.0
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if you want change, you have to know what change it is you want.
some of you keep hammering on the "semantics" issue. Sure, it's disingenuous from most on the gun toting side. I don't see it that way from mace. But I guess it's easier to pile on then to have an honest dialogue.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
The Juggler said:Gern Blansten said:These were my neighbors until about six months ago when they moved. Strange that they felt this would make a nice family photo. The two boys clearly are not comfortable holding those guns....kind of an awkward pose. Oh....and check out the white power symbol flash....am I overthinking that???
I've mentioned them before on here. They had a sign in their backyard near their dock that says "This property protected by the 2A"....like lake pirates were going to storm their property or something.
Interesting note....the young girl (now she is 17-18) is currently in our local jail for theft. She has been there for about a month awaiting trial because she didn't show up for her initial hearing. Great family.0 -
The Juggler said:JojoRice said:I live in Kennesaw, GA and we have a law that requires every homeowner to have a gun. Granted it's not enforced."I got memories, I got shit"0
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JojoRice said:The Juggler said:JojoRice said:I live in Kennesaw, GA and we have a law that requires every homeowner to have a gun. Granted it's not enforced.www.myspace.com0
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bootlegger10 said:The Juggler said:Gern Blansten said:These were my neighbors until about six months ago when they moved. Strange that they felt this would make a nice family photo. The two boys clearly are not comfortable holding those guns....kind of an awkward pose. Oh....and check out the white power symbol flash....am I overthinking that???
I've mentioned them before on here. They had a sign in their backyard near their dock that says "This property protected by the 2A"....like lake pirates were going to storm their property or something.
Interesting note....the young girl (now she is 17-18) is currently in our local jail for theft. She has been there for about a month awaiting trial because she didn't show up for her initial hearing. Great family.
I don't know the entire story though. Maybe she needs it? But yeah....fucking crazy to put up signs like that in our neighborhood.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
HughFreakingDillon said:if you want change, you have to know what change it is you want.
some of you keep hammering on the "semantics" issue. Sure, it's disingenuous from most on the gun toting side. I don't see it that way from mace. But I guess it's easier to pile on then to have an honest dialogue.People have listened for years and years to the same “semantics “ and might I add most patiently and mature.Times up.0 -
bootlegger10 said:The Juggler said:Gern Blansten said:These were my neighbors until about six months ago when they moved. Strange that they felt this would make a nice family photo. The two boys clearly are not comfortable holding those guns....kind of an awkward pose. Oh....and check out the white power symbol flash....am I overthinking that???
I've mentioned them before on here. They had a sign in their backyard near their dock that says "This property protected by the 2A"....like lake pirates were going to storm their property or something.
Interesting note....the young girl (now she is 17-18) is currently in our local jail for theft. She has been there for about a month awaiting trial because she didn't show up for her initial hearing. Great family.
Anecdotally, most of the anger I see is from people that don't really have anything be be angry about. Sometimes, whether you're anger is misplaced or not, you need to enjoy yourself. These people get to do it on a boat...
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OnWis97 said:bootlegger10 said:The Juggler said:Gern Blansten said:These were my neighbors until about six months ago when they moved. Strange that they felt this would make a nice family photo. The two boys clearly are not comfortable holding those guns....kind of an awkward pose. Oh....and check out the white power symbol flash....am I overthinking that???
I've mentioned them before on here. They had a sign in their backyard near their dock that says "This property protected by the 2A"....like lake pirates were going to storm their property or something.
Interesting note....the young girl (now she is 17-18) is currently in our local jail for theft. She has been there for about a month awaiting trial because she didn't show up for her initial hearing. Great family.
Anecdotally, most of the anger I see is from people that don't really have anything be be angry about. Sometimes, whether you're anger is misplaced or not, you need to enjoy yourself. These people get to do it on a boat...Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
Here’s some semantics for you, are all guns capable of killing when the trigger is pulled? Yea, that’s what I thought.0
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bootlegger10 said:The Juggler said:Gern Blansten said:These were my neighbors until about six months ago when they moved. Strange that they felt this would make a nice family photo. The two boys clearly are not comfortable holding those guns....kind of an awkward pose. Oh....and check out the white power symbol flash....am I overthinking that???
I've mentioned them before on here. They had a sign in their backyard near their dock that says "This property protected by the 2A"....like lake pirates were going to storm their property or something.
Interesting note....the young girl (now she is 17-18) is currently in our local jail for theft. She has been there for about a month awaiting trial because she didn't show up for her initial hearing. Great family.
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