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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    AllNiteThing said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    You want to make millions by living your life in the public eye then you need a thick skin.  Given her condition then probably shouldn't have made that joke, but nonetheless, it wasn't worth doing what he did.

    More than that, it was assault.  It could have easily escalated and Chris could have been seriously hurt depending on how Will struck him.  The applause for Will, the fact he was allowed to stay there and not immediately charge, and then given an award and went up there justifying his actions as being a 'vessel for love' and 'defending his family' was absolutely appalling.
    Yeah. I love the Smiths. They are an insanely talented family. And while I understand why Will Smith did what he did, I don't think that we as a society should condone it. He should be punished just like any other citizen should be.

    If this were a random audience member at one of Chris Rock's standup shows, then I'm willing to bet that, at the very least, that random audience member gets escorted out of the auditorium. Whether to press charges would, of course, still be up to Chris Rock in this hypothetical because that's the fucked up country in which we live. I'd press my luck here, though, and bet that Rock would press charges against a random audience member over Will Smith.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,578
    dankind said:
    AllNiteThing said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    You want to make millions by living your life in the public eye then you need a thick skin.  Given her condition then probably shouldn't have made that joke, but nonetheless, it wasn't worth doing what he did.

    More than that, it was assault.  It could have easily escalated and Chris could have been seriously hurt depending on how Will struck him.  The applause for Will, the fact he was allowed to stay there and not immediately charge, and then given an award and went up there justifying his actions as being a 'vessel for love' and 'defending his family' was absolutely appalling.
    Yeah. I love the Smiths. They are an insanely talented family. And while I understand why Will Smith did what he did, I don't think that we as a society should condone it. He should be punished just like any other citizen should be.

    If this were a random audience member at one of Chris Rock's standup shows, then I'm willing to bet that, at the very least, that random audience member gets escorted out of the auditorium. Whether to press charges would, of course, still be up to Chris Rock in this hypothetical because that's the fucked up country in which we live. I'd press my luck here, though, and bet that Rock would press charges against a random audience member over Will Smith.
    correct. I just said this to my wife a bit ago, that if it was some random "seat filler" that ran up on stage and attacked Rock, they would have been tackled by security and arrested immediately. But....rich and famous. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    edited March 2022
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    AllNiteThing said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    dankind said:
    I do think that Chris Rock should press charges. Pretty clear case. 
    Haven't seen the video

    Maybe watch the video before commenting on it and talking down to others about it?  Just a thought.
    Don't see how it would affect the comments made.

    Thanks for the advice, and the thought, though.
    I hope you're never called a witness to a crime you didn't actually witness, since actually seeing it makes no difference to you. 
    If I was called a witness to a crime - wouldn't that mean authorities had made the decision that my information was important, even with me not seeing the crime?

    In that instance, it wouldn't be a matter of it making a difference to me --  but whether it made it to them?
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,526
    I thought the joke was funny w the bald head.  I had no idea that she had alopecia.  I thought that was something you had all your life and not something that got worse as you got older.  My buddy and his daughter both have that.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,578
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I thought the joke was funny w the bald head.  I had no idea that she had alopecia.  I thought that was something you had all your life and not something that got worse as you got older.  My buddy and his daughter both have that.
    a friend of mine's kid had it, but it eventually went away. I think it can be different for everybody. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,578
    Chris Rock was contacted by LAPD but has declined to press charges. 
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,260
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Chris Rock was contacted by LAPD but has declined to press charges. 
    Of course he has.  Why in the world would he want to waste time with all the court b.s. over a face slap from Will Smith?   I'd just want to move on from it.  Now, if Smith has a history of violence that would be a different story.  
  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,543
    Just saw the uncensored clip. Will Smith has had it with Hollywood and people making fun of him and his wife’s situation. The man is on the verge of becoming a Hollywood statistic of someone who loses it….I’m looking at Mel Gibson for similarities.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,995
    The funniest thing about this is he upstaged his own Best Actor win. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,578
    bootlegger10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Chris Rock was contacted by LAPD but has declined to press charges. 
    Of course he has.  Why in the world would he want to waste time with all the court b.s. over a face slap from Will Smith?   I'd just want to move on from it.  Now, if Smith has a history of violence that would be a different story.  
    easy now. I wasn't commenting on if he should or shouldn't (he obviously wasn't going to). Just stating the facts as I saw them reported. 
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,260
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Chris Rock was contacted by LAPD but has declined to press charges. 
    Of course he has.  Why in the world would he want to waste time with all the court b.s. over a face slap from Will Smith?   I'd just want to move on from it.  Now, if Smith has a history of violence that would be a different story.  
    easy now. I wasn't commenting on if he should or shouldn't (he obviously wasn't going to). Just stating the facts as I saw them reported. 
    I wasn’t trying to attack your post.  Sorry if it came off that way. 
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    But hypothetically, do you think he would waste time with all the court b.s. with a less monied and less celebrated violent offender (that is to say, one with no chance of fighting it in court)?

    I just feel bad for the next average American goon who gets offended by a comedian's joke at a standup show and now thinks it's OK to assault the comedian because there will be no legal consequences. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,578
    dankind said:
    But hypothetically, do you think he would waste time with all the court b.s. with a less monied and less celebrated violent offender (that is to say, one with no chance of fighting it in court)?

    I just feel bad for the next average American goon who gets offended by a comedian's joke at a standup show and now thinks it's OK to assault the comedian because there will be no legal consequences. 
    if some nobody just slapped him across the face on the street? I agree, probably not. But in this instance, he's probably so embarrassed he just wants to put it behind him. plus, even if he didn't know about the alopecia before, the look of charging Smith makes it look like he's whining about a consequence that many feel is justified.  
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,578
    bootlegger10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Chris Rock was contacted by LAPD but has declined to press charges. 
    Of course he has.  Why in the world would he want to waste time with all the court b.s. over a face slap from Will Smith?   I'd just want to move on from it.  Now, if Smith has a history of violence that would be a different story.  
    easy now. I wasn't commenting on if he should or shouldn't (he obviously wasn't going to). Just stating the facts as I saw them reported. 
    I wasn’t trying to attack your post.  Sorry if it came off that way. 
    fair enough. 
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,260
    dankind said:
    But hypothetically, do you think he would waste time with all the court b.s. with a less monied and less celebrated violent offender (that is to say, one with no chance of fighting it in court)?

    I just feel bad for the next average American goon who gets offended by a comedian's joke at a standup show and now thinks it's OK to assault the comedian because there will be no legal consequences. 
    If someone thinks this is free reign time on comedians then they are foolish.  

    I could see charging someone you thought would be a repeat offender.  But if you thought it was random, felt like the offender was sorry, and wasn’t going to endanger someone else or yourself, then it seems like something I would move on from assuming no injury.  

    I would bet there are bar fights every day that are much worse than this that don’t result in charges on either side.
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    edited March 2022
    bootlegger10 said:
    dankind said:
    But hypothetically, do you think he would waste time with all the court b.s. with a less monied and less celebrated violent offender (that is to say, one with no chance of fighting it in court)?

    I just feel bad for the next average American goon who gets offended by a comedian's joke at a standup show and now thinks it's OK to assault the comedian because there will be no legal consequences. 
    If someone thinks this is free reign time on comedians then they are foolish.  

    I could see charging someone you thought would be a repeat offender.  But if you thought it was random, felt like the offender was sorry, and wasn’t going to endanger someone else or yourself, then it seems like something I would move on from assuming no injury.  

    I would bet there are bar fights every day that are much worse than this that don’t result in charges on either side.
    Yes, I've been in my fair share of those. Probably would've only been one time if I had been charged with assault, though....
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    edited March 2022
    So fucking weird Will smith won Best Actor after this. Like what are the odds. But, ofcourse him being nominated and a big star makes him being placed on the front row. Otherwise maybe he would have been placed on row 2 or 3. And that would have made it harder to have that kind of an outburst. So in a way the odds were bigger because of him being a star and nominated.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,995
    edited March 2022
    If Smith should be charged with anything, it should be for slapping like a bitch. If you're gonna slap a man (which is already pathetic) in defense of your wife, you need to hit him with some palm. Make him feel it. Rock hardly flinched. I could see why people thought initially it might've been a joke. If someone told me to slap them in the face as a joke, I'd slap exactly as hard as Smith did. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    dankind said:
    But hypothetically, do you think he would waste time with all the court b.s. with a less monied and less celebrated violent offender (that is to say, one with no chance of fighting it in court)?

    I just feel bad for the next average American goon who gets offended by a comedian's joke at a standup show and now thinks it's OK to assault the comedian because there will be no legal consequences. 
    I just feel bad for the next average American goon who gets offended by a comedian's joke at a standup show and now thinks it's OK to assault the comedian because there will be no legal consequences. 

    I've noticed the change in human behavior where this will becoming more of a norm.  People running on to ball fields or wanting to do something drastic for their IG.
  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,543
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    If Smith should be charged with anything, it should be for slapping like a bitch. If you're gonna slap a man (which is already pathetic) in defense of your wife, you need to hit him with some palm. Make him feel it. Rock hardly flinched. I could see why people thought initially it might've been a joke. If someone told me to slap them in the face as a joke, I'd slap exactly as hard as Smith did. 
    Bad. Ass. Over. Here.

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