Just When You thought Things Couldn't Get Worse in Texas

PJPOWER said:

cblock4life said:

mace1229 said:

Some people are okay with misinformation as long as they wish it were true.
It should matter that the topic of this thread started with 2 lies. Even if you disagree with what the bill actually says. It still matters to not drastically expand on what the bill says.
It matters because a discussion is pointless, if not impossible, if we can’t acknowledge the facts out in front of us. To dismiss pointing out blatant misinformation as irrelevant and continue to defend false statements doesn’t lead to anything.
Someone like me could actually benefit from a real discussion. I’m not well read on this topic, I don’t know what the harm and benefits are for different procedures at different ages. I don’t know how many, trans kids have suffered emotionally because they didn’t get the right treatment or how many, if any, suffered because they got treatment too early before the were mentally developed. There are so many things about this topic that I don’t know and would appreciate an actual conversation. But I can tell you I don’t care to have it here now because it s clear not many care about a genuine conversation. Good job, but how exactly did the trans kids benefit from that?

There’s soooo much information out there regarding new state laws (like those in Texas) that are causing a significant increase in teen suicide.  Teen suicide was at its highest when FF was in office.  Then it got better and then along comes Texas and other states with increased suicides because of their new laws. 

There’s really no need to discuss anything with anyone who supports these new laws.  Transgender decisions are for parents and their children to discuss with their physicians and make decisions.  How dare any individual, especially a bunch of scum bag politicians, make any law or decisions regarding this subject.  This is just another way for the whites to take back “their” country.  

Why don’t you answer this, why are you people so hell bent on throwing us backwards regarding peoples rights?  Why is it that only people like you deserve to live their lives the way you and yours think it should be lived?  You all want to fight for the right to spread a disease by not being vaccinated but fuck the rest of us and our choices, right?

Take yourself to a child’s clinic or hospital that deals with transgender youth and find out your information directly from them, if you can handle it.  I think we’re all sick and tired of playing games with people like you thinking you have the right to judge anyone.  

And finally, how dare you talk about telling lies.  Didn’t you vote (probably both times) for the biggest liar in American history?  How can anyone have a serious conversation with you when you’re clearly on the side of white supremacy? 

Your attack on mace seems a little harsh and directly against posting guidelines here…..
As to the bolded, here are actual guidelines for the medical community on the subject:
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/102/11/3869/4157558?login=false

cblock4life said:

mace1229 said:

PJPOWER said:

cblock4life said:

mace1229 said:

Some people are okay with misinformation as long as they wish it were true.
It should matter that the topic of this thread started with 2 lies. Even if you disagree with what the bill actually says. It still matters to not drastically expand on what the bill says.
It matters because a discussion is pointless, if not impossible, if we can’t acknowledge the facts out in front of us. To dismiss pointing out blatant misinformation as irrelevant and continue to defend false statements doesn’t lead to anything.
Someone like me could actually benefit from a real discussion. I’m not well read on this topic, I don’t know what the harm and benefits are for different procedures at different ages. I don’t know how many, trans kids have suffered emotionally because they didn’t get the right treatment or how many, if any, suffered because they got treatment too early before the were mentally developed. There are so many things about this topic that I don’t know and would appreciate an actual conversation. But I can tell you I don’t care to have it here now because it s clear not many care about a genuine conversation. Good job, but how exactly did the trans kids benefit from that?

There’s soooo much information out there regarding new state laws (like those in Texas) that are causing a significant increase in teen suicide.  Teen suicide was at its highest when FF was in office.  Then it got better and then along comes Texas and other states with increased suicides because of their new laws. 

There’s really no need to discuss anything with anyone who supports these new laws.  Transgender decisions are for parents and their children to discuss with their physicians and make decisions.  How dare any individual, especially a bunch of scum bag politicians, make any law or decisions regarding this subject.  This is just another way for the whites to take back “their” country.  

Why don’t you answer this, why are you people so hell bent on throwing us backwards regarding peoples rights?  Why is it that only people like you deserve to live their lives the way you and yours think it should be lived?  You all want to fight for the right to spread a disease by not being vaccinated but fuck the rest of us and our choices, right?

Take yourself to a child’s clinic or hospital that deals with transgender youth and find out your information directly from them, if you can handle it.  I think we’re all sick and tired of playing games with people like you thinking you have the right to judge anyone.  

And finally, how dare you talk about telling lies.  Didn’t you vote (probably both times) for the biggest liar in American history?  How can anyone have a serious conversation with you when you’re clearly on the side of white supremacy? 

Your attack on mace seems a little harsh and directly against posting guidelines here…..
As to the bolded, here are actual guidelines for the medical community on the subject:
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/102/11/3869/4157558?login=false

Thanks, but I don’t mind. This thread is just showing how many people are actually okay with misinformation as long as it makes a red state look bad. To get that angry because I pointed out false information posted is very telling.
And I didn’t even comment further. Just said let’s have a discussion starting with facts and it’s clear who isn’t for that.

You people just love twisting it and avoiding the questions I asked you.  You started by saying we don’t want the facts?  That’s laughable considering who you’ve supported.  

Bottom line for all who responded to my disgust (not anger) is don’t fuck with kids.  

mace1229 said:

Have a great day everyone. This thread has lost any reason to visit. It Should be closed when we don’t care about posting what is and isn’t true. I’d rather spend my time checking updates with Europe and checking in on the Wordle thread.

PJPOWER said:

cblock4life said:

PJPOWER said:

cblock4life said:

mace1229 said:

PJPOWER said:

cblock4life said:

mace1229 said:

Some people are okay with misinformation as long as they wish it were true.
It should matter that the topic of this thread started with 2 lies. Even if you disagree with what the bill actually says. It still matters to not drastically expand on what the bill says.
It matters because a discussion is pointless, if not impossible, if we can’t acknowledge the facts out in front of us. To dismiss pointing out blatant misinformation as irrelevant and continue to defend false statements doesn’t lead to anything.
Someone like me could actually benefit from a real discussion. I’m not well read on this topic, I don’t know what the harm and benefits are for different procedures at different ages. I don’t know how many, trans kids have suffered emotionally because they didn’t get the right treatment or how many, if any, suffered because they got treatment too early before the were mentally developed. There are so many things about this topic that I don’t know and would appreciate an actual conversation. But I can tell you I don’t care to have it here now because it s clear not many care about a genuine conversation. Good job, but how exactly did the trans kids benefit from that?

There’s soooo much information out there regarding new state laws (like those in Texas) that are causing a significant increase in teen suicide.  Teen suicide was at its highest when FF was in office.  Then it got better and then along comes Texas and other states with increased suicides because of their new laws. 

There’s really no need to discuss anything with anyone who supports these new laws.  Transgender decisions are for parents and their children to discuss with their physicians and make decisions.  How dare any individual, especially a bunch of scum bag politicians, make any law or decisions regarding this subject.  This is just another way for the whites to take back “their” country.  

Why don’t you answer this, why are you people so hell bent on throwing us backwards regarding peoples rights?  Why is it that only people like you deserve to live their lives the way you and yours think it should be lived?  You all want to fight for the right to spread a disease by not being vaccinated but fuck the rest of us and our choices, right?

Take yourself to a child’s clinic or hospital that deals with transgender youth and find out your information directly from them, if you can handle it.  I think we’re all sick and tired of playing games with people like you thinking you have the right to judge anyone.  

And finally, how dare you talk about telling lies.  Didn’t you vote (probably both times) for the biggest liar in American history?  How can anyone have a serious conversation with you when you’re clearly on the side of white supremacy? 

Your attack on mace seems a little harsh and directly against posting guidelines here…..
As to the bolded, here are actual guidelines for the medical community on the subject:
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/102/11/3869/4157558?login=false

Thanks, but I don’t mind. This thread is just showing how many people are actually okay with misinformation as long as it makes a red state look bad. To get that angry because I pointed out false information posted is very telling.
And I didn’t even comment further. Just said let’s have a discussion starting with facts and it’s clear who isn’t for that.

You people just love twisting it and avoiding the questions I asked you.  You started by saying we don’t want the facts?  That’s laughable considering who you’ve supported.  

Bottom line for all who responded to my disgust (not anger) is don’t fuck with kids.  

“You People”…very telling
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/you_people

mace1229 said:

PJPOWER said:

cblock4life said:

mace1229 said:

Some people are okay with misinformation as long as they wish it were true.
It should matter that the topic of this thread started with 2 lies. Even if you disagree with what the bill actually says. It still matters to not drastically expand on what the bill says.
It matters because a discussion is pointless, if not impossible, if we can’t acknowledge the facts out in front of us. To dismiss pointing out blatant misinformation as irrelevant and continue to defend false statements doesn’t lead to anything.
Someone like me could actually benefit from a real discussion. I’m not well read on this topic, I don’t know what the harm and benefits are for different procedures at different ages. I don’t know how many, trans kids have suffered emotionally because they didn’t get the right treatment or how many, if any, suffered because they got treatment too early before the were mentally developed. There are so many things about this topic that I don’t know and would appreciate an actual conversation. But I can tell you I don’t care to have it here now because it s clear not many care about a genuine conversation. Good job, but how exactly did the trans kids benefit from that?

There’s soooo much information out there regarding new state laws (like those in Texas) that are causing a significant increase in teen suicide.  Teen suicide was at its highest when FF was in office.  Then it got better and then along comes Texas and other states with increased suicides because of their new laws. 

There’s really no need to discuss anything with anyone who supports these new laws.  Transgender decisions are for parents and their children to discuss with their physicians and make decisions.  How dare any individual, especially a bunch of scum bag politicians, make any law or decisions regarding this subject.  This is just another way for the whites to take back “their” country.  

Why don’t you answer this, why are you people so hell bent on throwing us backwards regarding peoples rights?  Why is it that only people like you deserve to live their lives the way you and yours think it should be lived?  You all want to fight for the right to spread a disease by not being vaccinated but fuck the rest of us and our choices, right?

Take yourself to a child’s clinic or hospital that deals with transgender youth and find out your information directly from them, if you can handle it.  I think we’re all sick and tired of playing games with people like you thinking you have the right to judge anyone.  

And finally, how dare you talk about telling lies.  Didn’t you vote (probably both times) for the biggest liar in American history?  How can anyone have a serious conversation with you when you’re clearly on the side of white supremacy? 

Your attack on mace seems a little harsh and directly against posting guidelines here…..
As to the bolded, here are actual guidelines for the medical community on the subject:
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/102/11/3869/4157558?login=false

Thanks, but I don’t mind. This thread is just showing how many people are actually okay with misinformation as long as it makes a red state look bad. To get that angry because I pointed out false information posted is very telling.
And I didn’t even comment further. Just said let’s have a discussion starting with facts and it’s clear who isn’t for that.

You people just love twisting it and avoiding the questions I asked you.  You started by saying we don’t want the facts?  That’s laughable considering who you’ve supported.  

Bottom line for all who responded to my disgust (not anger) is don’t fuck with kids.  

“You People”…very telling
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/you_people

mace1229 said:

You can call names and post annoying graphics. But everyone who doesn’t want to acknowledge the facts, who’f rather call names and put people down because they are seeking truth and a genuine conversation are putting your own self interests of promoting your self-righteousness over actually creating a positive environmentymace1229 said:

Have a great day everyone. This I thread has lost any reason to visit. It Should be closed when we don’t care about posting what is and isn’t true. I’d rather spend my time checking updates with Europe and checking in on the Wordle thread.

If that’s the case then all postings regarding trump should be closed since you care soooooo much about the truth. In fact let’s just pretend like his presidency never happened.  “You people”, which is very telling, forget about all the things you’ve written in the past and some of us can remember everything.  Lie, deny, disengage……it’s always the same and it’s old and boring. When you get called on the carpet you walk away from the “real” conversations because inside you know you’re wrong for supporting a POS like Trump.  

mace1229 said:

cblock4life said:

mace1229 said:

PJPOWER said:

cblock4life said:

mace1229 said:

Some people are okay with misinformation as long as they wish it were true.
It should matter that the topic of this thread started with 2 lies. Even if you disagree with what the bill actually says. It still matters to not drastically expand on what the bill says.
It matters because a discussion is pointless, if not impossible, if we can’t acknowledge the facts out in front of us. To dismiss pointing out blatant misinformation as irrelevant and continue to defend false statements doesn’t lead to anything.
Someone like me could actually benefit from a real discussion. I’m not well read on this topic, I don’t know what the harm and benefits are for different procedures at different ages. I don’t know how many, trans kids have suffered emotionally because they didn’t get the right treatment or how many, if any, suffered because they got treatment too early before the were mentally developed. There are so many things about this topic that I don’t know and would appreciate an actual conversation. But I can tell you I don’t care to have it here now because it s clear not many care about a genuine conversation. Good job, but how exactly did the trans kids benefit from that?

There’s soooo much information out there regarding new state laws (like those in Texas) that are causing a significant increase in teen suicide.  Teen suicide was at its highest when FF was in office.  Then it got better and then along comes Texas and other states with increased suicides because of their new laws. 

There’s really no need to discuss anything with anyone who supports these new laws.  Transgender decisions are for parents and their children to discuss with their physicians and make decisions.  How dare any individual, especially a bunch of scum bag politicians, make any law or decisions regarding this subject.  This is just another way for the whites to take back “their” country.  

Why don’t you answer this, why are you people so hell bent on throwing us backwards regarding peoples rights?  Why is it that only people like you deserve to live their lives the way you and yours think it should be lived?  You all want to fight for the right to spread a disease by not being vaccinated but fuck the rest of us and our choices, right?

Take yourself to a child’s clinic or hospital that deals with transgender youth and find out your information directly from them, if you can handle it.  I think we’re all sick and tired of playing games with people like you thinking you have the right to judge anyone.  

And finally, how dare you talk about telling lies.  Didn’t you vote (probably both times) for the biggest liar in American history?  How can anyone have a serious conversation with you when you’re clearly on the side of white supremacy? 

Your attack on mace seems a little harsh and directly against posting guidelines here…..
As to the bolded, here are actual guidelines for the medical community on the subject:
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/102/11/3869/4157558?login=false

Thanks, but I don’t mind. This thread is just showing how many people are actually okay with misinformation as long as it makes a red state look bad. To get that angry because I pointed out false information posted is very telling.
And I didn’t even comment further. Just said let’s have a discussion starting with facts and it’s clear who isn’t for that.

You people just love twisting it and avoiding the questions I asked you.  You started by saying we don’t want the facts?  That’s laughable considering who you’ve supported.  

Bottom line for all who responded to my disgust (not anger) is don’t fuck with kids.  

Anyone who gets that unhinged because I pointed out a post was false, doesn’t want the facts. How else can you explain it?
I didn’t defend anything Texas did. I didn’t say anything negative about the trans community. I simply said that the claim that all trans families will be investigated and prosecuted is false. That teachers will have to report all trans students is false. And you went unhinged and called me a Nazi for just pointing out a false claim. That’s all I did, didn’t comment and say Texas is doing the right thing.

So who really isn’t for the facts and furthering a discussion and promoting positive change?