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cp3iverson · December 2021

Saw a great tweet a few minutes ago….

a legendary coach to one generation
a legendary broadcaster to the next generation
a videogame legend to the one after that.

josevolution · December 2021

RIP his broadcast years is when I loved NFL the best!

Ledbetterman10 · December 2021

The face and voice of football. The ultimate “football guy.” BOOM. RIP.

Meltdown99 · December 2021

RIP John. What a legend.

The Fox special on madden that aired Christmas was good…

Attaway77 · December 2021

Will always be a part of my life growing up and on.... RIP JM.. Legend...

Cliffy6745 · December 2021

I assumed he was already dead

eeriepadave · December 2021

RIP John Madden 🥲

pjhawks · December 2021

RIP John Madden. A true football legend. Every broadcast he had you could tell how much he loved the game.

MayDay10 · December 2021

He was decent on the new jersey devils too

Poncier · December 2021

MayDay10 said:

He was decent on the new jersey devils too

And his two sons play in Good Charlotte.

tempo_n_groove · December 2021

The Juggler said:

DewieCox said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Attaway77 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

mrussel1 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

mrussel1 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

I'm sold on the fact that Wentz will be Indy's QB at least for the next 2-3 years. But beyond that, and when Reich drafts a QB within the next two seasons, is this skim milk motherfucker going to throw another shit fit?

Why do Philly people hate him? Did something happen on the way out,

Are you familiar with what's going on with Ben Simmons? Sorta the exact same situation.

But yeah, at the same time I thought, I really don't care what he does after he's gone as long as we get a 1st rounder for him. Which we will now, our GM really was able to do great with this trade. But, then sitting here on a calm Christmas night filled with all this cheer, and I realize, no, I would actually enjoy watching this paste face get murdered.

Ben is choosing not to play because he is a giant baby. Carson didn't do anything like that, did he? I'm not saying you shouldn't dislike him..I don't like him. But I thought everything was the Eagles call.

Like Ben he wanted/did force his way out for incredibly dumb and ludicrous reasons. He didn't like seeing the Bud Light statue of Nick Foles outside the stadium. Oh, yeah, and they drafted a QB in the 2nd round. Instead of finding any motivation in any of that he folded like a baby. But again it's fine, I always got the Tebow vibe from him, which I feel like I was holding back from really ripping him on.

Well, he did pretty much get the Eagles through the season until he got hurt, then Nick Foles just finished it with the same players around him and won the SB (sort of like Switzer/Gruden next season... Foles hasn't done much since and Carson is bringing back some life to the Colts. Philly fans I have respect for, harsh at times, but much respect.... BUT.... come on now, none of the shit off the field matters, it's winning that does for any team/franchise, simple as that. If Carson finished and stood there holding that Lombardi, Eagles fans would still worship/despise him now... Man I love football!!!!!!

But he didn't. He's never won a playoff game, actually.

What I'm saying is the Tebow vibe of him has only made it easier to tell him to eat shit.

Tebow vibe?

I’d be perfectly fine with the Colts moving on, as I think there are some other similar options, but he seems fully capable of riding the rest of that team to a Lombardi skill wise.

Until he puts up a 5-12 for 57 yard performance like two weeks ago. He was great in 2017. Ever since he's been largely mediocre.

And in addition to the stuff JP mentioned, there were a lot of reports of his teammates not looking to him as a leader (and just not liking him in general) and the coaches complaining about him being uncoachable.

Indy was clearly the best landing spot for him with Frank Reich, great running back to carry him, and a smaller media market but, yeah, I am glad he's not here anymore either.

Ummm, The Broncos went on a winning spree w Tebow and won a playoff game w him. Everyone in the league kept telling us how bad he was but he kept on winning...

I'll never understand that.

tempo_n_groove · December 2021

Ledbetterman10 said:

The face and voice of football. The ultimate “football guy.” BOOM. RIP.

I will always remember that. Drawing on the board and yelling BOOM!

That and the Tenactin commercial.

Ledbetterman10 · December 2021

Here's a great watch. It's the America's Game documentary on the 1976 Raiders. With Madden, Ken Stabler, and Phil Villipiano...

https://youtu.be/AbEoUIfwwPM

cp3iverson · December 2021

So many cool broadcasting facts about Madden I never knew

—broadcasters never went to practices the week of games to speak with players and coaches until he did. Now everyone does.

—-he invented the yellow graphic first down marker on TV

tempo_n_groove · December 2021

cp3iverson said:

So many cool broadcasting facts about Madden I never knew

—broadcasters never went to practices the week of games to speak with players and coaches until he did. Now everyone does.

—-he invented the yellow graphic first down marker on TV

He didn't fly...

The Juggler · December 2021

tempo_n_groove said:

The Juggler said:

DewieCox said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Attaway77 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

mrussel1 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

mrussel1 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

I'm sold on the fact that Wentz will be Indy's QB at least for the next 2-3 years. But beyond that, and when Reich drafts a QB within the next two seasons, is this skim milk motherfucker going to throw another shit fit?

Why do Philly people hate him? Did something happen on the way out,

Are you familiar with what's going on with Ben Simmons? Sorta the exact same situation.

But yeah, at the same time I thought, I really don't care what he does after he's gone as long as we get a 1st rounder for him. Which we will now, our GM really was able to do great with this trade. But, then sitting here on a calm Christmas night filled with all this cheer, and I realize, no, I would actually enjoy watching this paste face get murdered.

Ben is choosing not to play because he is a giant baby. Carson didn't do anything like that, did he? I'm not saying you shouldn't dislike him..I don't like him. But I thought everything was the Eagles call.

Like Ben he wanted/did force his way out for incredibly dumb and ludicrous reasons. He didn't like seeing the Bud Light statue of Nick Foles outside the stadium. Oh, yeah, and they drafted a QB in the 2nd round. Instead of finding any motivation in any of that he folded like a baby. But again it's fine, I always got the Tebow vibe from him, which I feel like I was holding back from really ripping him on.

Well, he did pretty much get the Eagles through the season until he got hurt, then Nick Foles just finished it with the same players around him and won the SB (sort of like Switzer/Gruden next season... Foles hasn't done much since and Carson is bringing back some life to the Colts. Philly fans I have respect for, harsh at times, but much respect.... BUT.... come on now, none of the shit off the field matters, it's winning that does for any team/franchise, simple as that. If Carson finished and stood there holding that Lombardi, Eagles fans would still worship/despise him now... Man I love football!!!!!!

But he didn't. He's never won a playoff game, actually.

What I'm saying is the Tebow vibe of him has only made it easier to tell him to eat shit.

Tebow vibe?

I’d be perfectly fine with the Colts moving on, as I think there are some other similar options, but he seems fully capable of riding the rest of that team to a Lombardi skill wise.

Until he puts up a 5-12 for 57 yard performance like two weeks ago. He was great in 2017. Ever since he's been largely mediocre.

And in addition to the stuff JP mentioned, there were a lot of reports of his teammates not looking to him as a leader (and just not liking him in general) and the coaches complaining about him being uncoachable.

Indy was clearly the best landing spot for him with Frank Reich, great running back to carry him, and a smaller media market but, yeah, I am glad he's not here anymore either.

Ummm, The Broncos went on a winning spree w Tebow and won a playoff game w him. Everyone in the league kept telling us how bad he was but he kept on winning...

I'll never understand that.

If Tebow was any good he would've had more success than that two month or so run that year. Are you trying to say he got a raw deal or something?

Ledbetterman10 · December 2021

Tebow was a victim of circumstance and his own stupidity....

Circumstance: We can make fun of his stupid throwing motion and terrible stats, but the fact of the matter is he was a 1st round pick that led his team to the playoffs and he played a great game in beating the Steelers. In every other occurrence of that scenario, he gets another shot the following year (even if Elway wasn't in favor of it). BUT...unfortunately for him, Peyton Manning became a free agent and got to pick his new team, and he picked the Broncos.

His own stupidity: Elway said he'd trade Tebow wherever he wants to go (assuming the team would want him). He should've chosen the Jaguars. He'd be close to where he went to college. The Jags sucked so there'd be no pressure. He'd sell some jerseys and be a good team leader. He's probably suck in the long run, but that's okay. He'd have a few years there under his belt, and might even still be a valuable backup QB to this day.

BUT NOPE, he chose the Rex Ryan Jets, presumably to be in a big market. And it didn't take long for Rex to see the media attention he was getting wasn't worth the trouble because he wasn't good enough a player to warrant it (ESPN First Take was showing up at their training camps to cover Tebow vs. Sanchez). Really, it's the same reason Kaepernick isn't in the league anymore. If you think it's because he kneeled, you're wrong. Patrick Mahomes could take shit on the American flag at the 50-yard-line and he'd be in KC's starting line up the next week. But when you're just a backup, and you're getting loads and loads of media attention that's distracting from the task at hand, you're expendable, as Tebow and Kaepernick learned.

CROJAM95 · December 2021

RIP

Madden was authentic.

DewieCox · December 2021

Ledbetterman10 said:

Tebow was a victim of circumstance and his own stupidity....

Circumstance: We can make fun of his stupid throwing motion and terrible stats, but the fact of the matter is he was a 1st round pick that led his team to the playoffs and he played a great game in beating the Steelers. In every other occurrence of that scenario, he gets another shot the following year

He sucked plain and simple. Broncos won the division with a 500 record and he was just adequate enough to ride a roster that was pretty stacked everywhere else and get the ball to someone that could make something happen against Pittsburgh.

Ledbetterman10 · December 2021

DewieCox said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Tebow was a victim of circumstance and his own stupidity....

Circumstance: We can make fun of his stupid throwing motion and terrible stats, but the fact of the matter is he was a 1st round pick that led his team to the playoffs and he played a great game in beating the Steelers. In every other occurrence of that scenario, he gets another shot the following year

He sucked plain and simple. Broncos won the division with a 500 record and he was just adequate enough to ride a roster that was pretty stacked everywhere else and get the ball to someone that could make something happen against Pittsburgh.

Yeah that was such a stacked team....that went 4-12 the year prior and hadn't made the playoffs in five years.

Either way, he still would've been Denver's week 1 starter in 2012 if not for the Manning signing.

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