Two vinyl LP "completist" questions.

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,499
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Guy Dudebro said:
    1. Completist means exactly that. Every pressing from every country, every different promo, and every test pressing.

    2. None. Never tried. I collect by the motto that you can’t have everything. 

    Can you imagine being a true completist collector of The Beatles, Stones, or Led Zeppelin? 
    This is not completist, this is insanity.  Anything publicly released you could be a completist.

    I do have all 4 Fixer records and I still argue w Dlaowsky about there being a 5th.  I believe it to be the color wearing out or mixed to make it lighter.  He disagrees, lol.

    A bit off topic but I'll ask here because I forget where you had mentioned this, but somewhere you said something about a Dischord box set.  I'm curious as to what this has in it.  One of these days, I want to delve into their catalog a bit more.
    Sure Brian, I had replied to you about that but if you missed it here is the link.
    https://boxset.dischord.com/

    So these are the very first (6) 7" releases from Dischord when the movement was getting some momentum.  you have a very young Henry Garfield(Rollins) in his band SOA as well as MacKaye.  There is also the Teen Idles, Minor Threat, Government Issue and Youth Brigade.  Not the west coast Youth Brigade...
    It was made to order so who knows how many were made?  I'm just excited to own them as the OG's that GuyDudeBro owns are write expensive.
  • Guy Dudebro
    Guy Dudebro Posts: 1,480
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Guy Dudebro said:
    1. Completist means exactly that. Every pressing from every country, every different promo, and every test pressing.

    2. None. Never tried. I collect by the motto that you can’t have everything. 

    Can you imagine being a true completist collector of The Beatles, Stones, or Led Zeppelin? 
    This is not completist, this is insanity.  Anything publicly released you could be a completist.

    I do have all 4 Fixer records and I still argue w Dlaowsky about there being a 5th.  I believe it to be the color wearing out or mixed to make it lighter.  He disagrees, lol.

    A bit off topic but I'll ask here because I forget where you had mentioned this, but somewhere you said something about a Dischord box set.  I'm curious as to what this has in it.  One of these days, I want to delve into their catalog a bit more.
    Sure Brian, I had replied to you about that but if you missed it here is the link.
    https://boxset.dischord.com/

    So these are the very first (6) 7" releases from Dischord when the movement was getting some momentum.  you have a very young Henry Garfield(Rollins) in his band SOA as well as MacKaye.  There is also the Teen Idles, Minor Threat, Government Issue and Youth Brigade.  Not the west coast Youth Brigade...
    It was made to order so who knows how many were made?  I'm just excited to own them as the OG's that GuyDudeBro owns are write expensive.
    I don’t own any of OG Dischord 1-6 but I wish I did. They were super rare and super expensive even in the early to mid eighties. I know guys that have all of that early Dischord stuff and everything else. Funny enough, if you open up your copy of Nirvana “Bleach”, in the C. Peterson photo of Kurt going over the drums the guy standing on the stage in the Angry Samoans shirt has one of the most comprehensive collections of hardcore records anywhere. The guy also put on some of the most memorable hardcore shows that I’ve ever seen. Agnostic Front, DRI, Toxic Reasons,Corrosion of Conformity, MIA all in a practice space about 15x40ft. Sorry for the trip down memory lane but when the topic of OG Dischord records comes up flipping through his collection when I was a young kid collector is the first thing that I think of. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    MedozK said:
    brianlux said:
    Guy Dudebro said:
    1. Completist means exactly that. Every pressing from every country, every different promo, and every test pressing.

    2. None. Never tried. I collect by the motto that you can’t have everything. 

    Can you imagine being a true completist collector of The Beatles, Stones, or Led Zeppelin? 

    That is completist to the extreme, Guy! 
    Or maybe lets take it a step further and imagine someone attempting this:  To have every vinyl pressing of every Beatles record from every country including test pressings, remasters, etc., AND the same for every CD, reel to reel tape, 8-track tape, DAT tape, cassette tape, FLAC file, every download card, AND every Beatles movie on every film format, AND every book and ebook ever written about the Beatles, AND every magazine and Beatles fanzine every publishes, AND.. I know, if I keep someone is going to shoot me!

    To me that is a completist. There are people that do that.

    They must have rooms that look like museums.  I believe I have seen a few photos that actually do look that way.
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Guy Dudebro said:
    1. Completist means exactly that. Every pressing from every country, every different promo, and every test pressing.

    2. None. Never tried. I collect by the motto that you can’t have everything. 

    Can you imagine being a true completist collector of The Beatles, Stones, or Led Zeppelin? 
    This is not completist, this is insanity.  Anything publicly released you could be a completist.

    I do have all 4 Fixer records and I still argue w Dlaowsky about there being a 5th.  I believe it to be the color wearing out or mixed to make it lighter.  He disagrees, lol.

    A bit off topic but I'll ask here because I forget where you had mentioned this, but somewhere you said something about a Dischord box set.  I'm curious as to what this has in it.  One of these days, I want to delve into their catalog a bit more.
    Sure Brian, I had replied to you about that but if you missed it here is the link.
    https://boxset.dischord.com/

    So these are the very first (6) 7" releases from Dischord when the movement was getting some momentum.  you have a very young Henry Garfield(Rollins) in his band SOA as well as MacKaye.  There is also the Teen Idles, Minor Threat, Government Issue and Youth Brigade.  Not the west coast Youth Brigade...
    It was made to order so who knows how many were made?  I'm just excited to own them as the OG's that GuyDudeBro owns are write expensive.

    Great, thanks!
    Damn, looks like they sold out.  Very cool that you got in on the deal.  Good job!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Guy Dudebro
    Guy Dudebro Posts: 1,480
    DarthMaeglin said:
    Guy Dudebro said:
    brianlux said:
    Guy Dudebro said:
    1. Completist means exactly that. Every pressing from every country, every different promo, and every test pressing.

    2. None. Never tried. I collect by the motto that you can’t have everything. 

    Can you imagine being a true completist collector of The Beatles, Stones, or Led Zeppelin? 

    That is completist to the extreme, Guy! 
    Or maybe lets take it a step further and imagine someone attempting this:  To have every vinyl pressing of every Beatles record from every country including test pressings, remasters, etc., AND the same for every CD, reel to reel tape, 8-track tape, DAT tape, cassette tape, FLAC file, every download card, AND every Beatles movie on every film format, AND every book and ebook ever written about the Beatles, AND every magazine and Beatles fanzine every publishes, AND.. I know, if I keep someone is going to shoot me!

    Just for fun, bookmark Rockaway.com and check out the new arrivals and see  what comes through there every other week or so. If anybody ever  wanted to complete your list above that’s about the only place you need to go. The collectors you describe above do exist but it appears that many seem to be aging out. Hell, we’ll all be there some day!  Recordmecca is also an interesting browse for the high end collector. 
     But yeah, completist means completist to me. I love to collect the rare and obscure. In fact, it’s all I collect. Great thread. 
    Your posts in the Discogs random item thread have been impressive to say the least!
    Thanks!
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,762
    Guy Dudebro said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Guy Dudebro said:
    1. Completist means exactly that. Every pressing from every country, every different promo, and every test pressing.

    2. None. Never tried. I collect by the motto that you can’t have everything. 

    Can you imagine being a true completist collector of The Beatles, Stones, or Led Zeppelin? 
    This is not completist, this is insanity.  Anything publicly released you could be a completist.

    I do have all 4 Fixer records and I still argue w Dlaowsky about there being a 5th.  I believe it to be the color wearing out or mixed to make it lighter.  He disagrees, lol.

    A bit off topic but I'll ask here because I forget where you had mentioned this, but somewhere you said something about a Dischord box set.  I'm curious as to what this has in it.  One of these days, I want to delve into their catalog a bit more.
    Sure Brian, I had replied to you about that but if you missed it here is the link.
    https://boxset.dischord.com/

    So these are the very first (6) 7" releases from Dischord when the movement was getting some momentum.  you have a very young Henry Garfield(Rollins) in his band SOA as well as MacKaye.  There is also the Teen Idles, Minor Threat, Government Issue and Youth Brigade.  Not the west coast Youth Brigade...
    It was made to order so who knows how many were made?  I'm just excited to own them as the OG's that GuyDudeBro owns are write expensive.
    I don’t own any of OG Dischord 1-6 but I wish I did. They were super rare and super expensive even in the early to mid eighties. I know guys that have all of that early Dischord stuff and everything else. Funny enough, if you open up your copy of Nirvana “Bleach”, in the C. Peterson photo of Kurt going over the drums the guy standing on the stage in the Angry Samoans shirt has one of the most comprehensive collections of hardcore records anywhere. The guy also put on some of the most memorable hardcore shows that I’ve ever seen. Agnostic Front, DRI, Toxic Reasons,Corrosion of Conformity, MIA all in a practice space about 15x40ft. Sorry for the trip down memory lane but when the topic of OG Dischord records comes up flipping through his collection when I was a young kid collector is the first thing that I think of. 
    great info. Love this stuff.
    I collect what i listen to and like. 
    Love to find rare stuff, but won't drop fat cash. Hunting is most of the fun.
    Try to pick up all pj vaults b/c it's easy. Honestly don't spin them often, but I'm hooked.
    Have lots of black sabbath stuff. Not all for sure.

  • Gibson
    Gibson Chicago Posts: 2,671
    edited December 2021
    One of each commericial album release.

    Tragically Hip
    U2
    Dave Matthews Band (of all the available albums on vinyl...still waiting on a few to be released)
    City and Colour
    Foo Fighters

    Closing in on QOTSA, Coldplay, White Stripes...
    Post edited by Gibson on
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  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    Gibson said:
    One of each studio album release.

    Pearl Jam (I don't do vaults..too pricey with Canadian shopping costs)
    Tragically Hip
    U2
    Dave Matthews Band (of all the available albums on vinyl...still waiting on a few to be released)
    City and Colour
    Foo Fighters

    Closing in on QOTSA, Coldplay, White Stripes...
    Interesting. I am a huge Mark Lanegan fan. To be a completist for him would it be his solo stuff (Mark Lanegan and the Mark Lanegan Band) or would it include the Screaming Trees, Gutter Twins, Isobel Campbell, Duke Garwood …. On and on? 

    The amount of music Mark Lanegan has produced is mind boggling. I have 15 Mark Lanegan/Mark Lanegan Band albums. I have two Screaming Trees releases and two of the QOTSA albums he is on and am nowhere near being “complete”. 

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,551
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mfc2006 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mfc2006 said:
    1. One of each release
    2. My Morning Jacket, Elliott Smith, Ben Harper (all releases), Soundgarden, Spoon, Brandi Carlile, Radiohead

    I'd say PJ, but I don't own Benny or LD
    Benny is not essential to be complete.  That is like saying the Vaults are included and they are not.
    Ok..then I just need LD! 
    I would say no on that too.  

    I kind of hate to admit this, but with all due respect to Pearl Jam, if I had a copy of Lost Dogs in vinyl I would sell it.  I have the CD and it is my least played PJ.

    crazy talk.
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,697
    edited December 2021
    I'm not trying to troll here, but I don't understand having a playable copy and a copy thats sealed. Like whats the point? I mean, unless its an investment to sell later.

    And this isn't even a "play the record" type post. I guess my POV is, space is limited and having a copy where you interact with only 25% of the item (which is also available on the playable copy) doesn't really make sense to me. Is it a backup in case the playable gets ruined?

    I mean, is it to just remember what it looked like on a store rack or fresh out of the shipping box? I don't get it.

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Tim Simmons said:
    I'm trying to troll here, but I don't understand having a playable copy and a copy thats sealed. Like whats the point? I mean, unless its an investment to sell later.

    And this isn't even a "play the record" type post. I guess my POV is, space is limited and having a copy where you interact with only 25% of the item (which is also available on the playable copy) doesn't really make sense to me. Is it a backup in case the playable gets ruined?

    I mean, is it to just remember what it looked like on a store rack or fresh out of the shipping box? I don't get it.


    Yeah, no offense intended to collectors, but that seems a little odd to me as well. 
    But at the risk of being hypocritical, I do have one such album- an open original Twin Tones Record copy of The Replacements Let it Be, and a sealed copy of the same that I bought at Amoeba in San Francisco some years ago for $19.99.   I would consider it to be a good investment if I ever sell it (probably worth about $200 today).
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited December 2021
    Tim Simmons said:
    I'm trying to troll here, but I don't understand having a playable copy and a copy thats sealed. Like whats the point? I mean, unless its an investment to sell later.

    And this isn't even a "play the record" type post. I guess my POV is, space is limited and having a copy where you interact with only 25% of the item (which is also available on the playable copy) doesn't really make sense to me. Is it a backup in case the playable gets ruined?

    I mean, is it to just remember what it looked like on a store rack or fresh out of the shipping box? I don't get it.

    I have “doubles” for a few reasons:
    - Mint OGs framed on the wall is my kind of art work. I enjoy seeing them. 
    - I buy a second for trades later. They can come in handy, particulalry when they increase in value and looking for a rare record not in your collection. 
    - I buy a second because the album is just so important that if it were to be damaged that there is little to no chance of an RE
    - I love wax! 
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,762
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mfc2006 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mfc2006 said:
    1. One of each release
    2. My Morning Jacket, Elliott Smith, Ben Harper (all releases), Soundgarden, Spoon, Brandi Carlile, Radiohead

    I'd say PJ, but I don't own Benny or LD
    Benny is not essential to be complete.  That is like saying the Vaults are included and they are not.
    Ok..then I just need LD! 
    I would say no on that too.  

    I kind of hate to admit this, but with all due respect to Pearl Jam, if I had a copy of Lost Dogs in vinyl I would sell it.  I have the CD and it is my least played PJ.
    Whachutalkinboutwillisss
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Loujoe said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mfc2006 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mfc2006 said:
    1. One of each release
    2. My Morning Jacket, Elliott Smith, Ben Harper (all releases), Soundgarden, Spoon, Brandi Carlile, Radiohead

    I'd say PJ, but I don't own Benny or LD
    Benny is not essential to be complete.  That is like saying the Vaults are included and they are not.
    Ok..then I just need LD! 
    I would say no on that too.  

    I kind of hate to admit this, but with all due respect to Pearl Jam, if I had a copy of Lost Dogs in vinyl I would sell it.  I have the CD and it is my least played PJ.
    Whachutalkinboutwillisss

    LOL, I know!  Lost Dogs on vinyl is a holy grail for many PJ fans.  It just doesn't do it for me.  If I had one, I would keep thinking about how many other records I could have if I sold it!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,551
    brianlux said:
    Loujoe said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mfc2006 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mfc2006 said:
    1. One of each release
    2. My Morning Jacket, Elliott Smith, Ben Harper (all releases), Soundgarden, Spoon, Brandi Carlile, Radiohead

    I'd say PJ, but I don't own Benny or LD
    Benny is not essential to be complete.  That is like saying the Vaults are included and they are not.
    Ok..then I just need LD! 
    I would say no on that too.  

    I kind of hate to admit this, but with all due respect to Pearl Jam, if I had a copy of Lost Dogs in vinyl I would sell it.  I have the CD and it is my least played PJ.
    Whachutalkinboutwillisss

    LOL, I know!  Lost Dogs on vinyl is a holy grail for many PJ fans.  It just doesn't do it for me.  If I had one, I would keep thinking about how many other records I could have if I sold it!

    and it sounds so fucking delicious....
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    Loujoe said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mfc2006 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mfc2006 said:
    1. One of each release
    2. My Morning Jacket, Elliott Smith, Ben Harper (all releases), Soundgarden, Spoon, Brandi Carlile, Radiohead

    I'd say PJ, but I don't own Benny or LD
    Benny is not essential to be complete.  That is like saying the Vaults are included and they are not.
    Ok..then I just need LD! 
    I would say no on that too.  

    I kind of hate to admit this, but with all due respect to Pearl Jam, if I had a copy of Lost Dogs in vinyl I would sell it.  I have the CD and it is my least played PJ.
    Whachutalkinboutwillisss

    LOL, I know!  Lost Dogs on vinyl is a holy grail for many PJ fans.  It just doesn't do it for me.  If I had one, I would keep thinking about how many other records I could have if I sold it!

    and it sounds so fucking delicious....

    You're not alone on that one here (but I might me, lol).
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Guy Dudebro
    Guy Dudebro Posts: 1,480
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    Loujoe said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mfc2006 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mfc2006 said:
    1. One of each release
    2. My Morning Jacket, Elliott Smith, Ben Harper (all releases), Soundgarden, Spoon, Brandi Carlile, Radiohead

    I'd say PJ, but I don't own Benny or LD
    Benny is not essential to be complete.  That is like saying the Vaults are included and they are not.
    Ok..then I just need LD! 
    I would say no on that too.  

    I kind of hate to admit this, but with all due respect to Pearl Jam, if I had a copy of Lost Dogs in vinyl I would sell it.  I have the CD and it is my least played PJ.
    Whachutalkinboutwillisss

    LOL, I know!  Lost Dogs on vinyl is a holy grail for many PJ fans.  It just doesn't do it for me.  If I had one, I would keep thinking about how many other records I could have if I sold it!

    and it sounds so fucking delicious....

    You're not alone on that one here (but I might me, lol).
    You’re not alone. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Guy Dudebro said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    Loujoe said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mfc2006 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mfc2006 said:
    1. One of each release
    2. My Morning Jacket, Elliott Smith, Ben Harper (all releases), Soundgarden, Spoon, Brandi Carlile, Radiohead

    I'd say PJ, but I don't own Benny or LD
    Benny is not essential to be complete.  That is like saying the Vaults are included and they are not.
    Ok..then I just need LD! 
    I would say no on that too.  

    I kind of hate to admit this, but with all due respect to Pearl Jam, if I had a copy of Lost Dogs in vinyl I would sell it.  I have the CD and it is my least played PJ.
    Whachutalkinboutwillisss

    LOL, I know!  Lost Dogs on vinyl is a holy grail for many PJ fans.  It just doesn't do it for me.  If I had one, I would keep thinking about how many other records I could have if I sold it!

    and it sounds so fucking delicious....

    You're not alone on that one here (but I might me, lol).
    You’re not alone. 

    Maybe we'll get lucky and one of us finds one in a thrift store to sell on eBay!  :lol:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    edited December 2021
    I think collecting music, and having OCD is a terrible combination, lol

    I was just listening to the 50th anniversary release of The Doors LA Woman, and thought "how many copies do I have of this"..... well I have 8, damn, why do I have that many. And I love the album, but it's no where near my favorite record. And this example is just one of many that I have. 

    I think, for me, it comes down to the hunt of variants and searching for that "best" pressing.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,499
    MedozK said:
    I think collecting music, and having OCD is a terrible combination, lol

    I was just listening to the 50th anniversary release of The Doors LA Woman, and thought "how many copies do I have of this"..... well I have 8, damn, why do I have that many. And I love the album, but it's no where near my favorite record. And this example is just one of many that I have. 

    I think, for me, it comes down to the hunt of variants and searching for that "best" pressing.
    How was that new LA Woman just released?  Worth getting?
  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    tempo_n_groove said:
    MedozK said:
    I think collecting music, and having OCD is a terrible combination, lol

    I was just listening to the 50th anniversary release of The Doors LA Woman, and thought "how many copies do I have of this"..... well I have 8, damn, why do I have that many. And I love the album, but it's no where near my favorite record. And this example is just one of many that I have. 

    I think, for me, it comes down to the hunt of variants and searching for that "best" pressing.
    How was that new LA Woman just released?  Worth getting?
    Yes, I think it is very good. Imo, my 2nd best pressing after the 45rpm AP.

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