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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,692
    You can see plenty of bands in clubs for under 40 bucks. That's 95% of my concert calendar. If popular, established artists are too expensive diversify your interests instead of whining.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,692
    The real problem is when a band hits a certain level of popularity they inevitably have to deal with some contingent of petulant, entitled obsessives
  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    pjl44 said:
    The real problem is when a band hits a certain level of popularity they inevitably have to deal with some contingent of petulant, entitled obsessives
    Listen, all I want is for my favorite band to be popular enough to pack an arena full of screaming fans who are fucking pumped because they consider themselves very fortunate to be there, but not so popular that I can’t always easily get a ticket for a price that I don’t have to think twice about. Honestly I don’t think that’s too much to ask. 
    Camden 2 2006, Newark 2010, Barclays 2 2013, Central Park 2015, MSG 2 2016, Wrigley 1 2016, Rome 2018, Prague 2018, Asbury Park 2021, EV & Earthlings NYC 1 2022, MSG 2022, Louisville 2022, Dublin 2024, MSG 1 2024, MSG 2 2024
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    tdawe said:
    pjl44 said:
    The real problem is when a band hits a certain level of popularity they inevitably have to deal with some contingent of petulant, entitled obsessives
    Listen, all I want is for my favorite band to be popular enough to pack an arena full of screaming fans who are fucking pumped because they consider themselves very fortunate to be there, but not so popular that I can’t always easily get a ticket for a price that I don’t have to think twice about. Honestly I don’t think that’s too much to ask. 
    But the ticket pricing you want is being determined by your budget, then undies are in a bunch because the band decided to not cooperate with your expectations. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    edited December 2021
    tdawe said:
    pjl44 said:
    The real problem is when a band hits a certain level of popularity they inevitably have to deal with some contingent of petulant, entitled obsessives
    Listen, all I want is for my favorite band to be popular enough to pack an arena full of screaming fans who are fucking pumped because they consider themselves very fortunate to be there, but not so popular that I can’t always easily get a ticket for a price that I don’t have to think twice about. Honestly I don’t think that’s too much to ask. 
    'Eddie & The Earthlings is my favorite band' is something I've never seen written in this forum.

    That doesn't mean it hasn't been said, it just means the next time I see it will be the first time.  
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,117
    pretty sure tdawe's sarcasm missed you both. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    edited December 2021
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    pretty sure tdawe's sarcasm missed you both. 
    The sarcasm wasn't lost on me at all. 

    My point stands. 
    Post edited by Merkin Baller on
  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    pretty sure tdawe's sarcasm missed you both. 
    Honestly it didn’t occur to me that the “band” referred to in the post I was quoting could be taken to mean “Eddie Vedder & The Earthlings”, but that is a very funny angle on it. 
    Camden 2 2006, Newark 2010, Barclays 2 2013, Central Park 2015, MSG 2 2016, Wrigley 1 2016, Rome 2018, Prague 2018, Asbury Park 2021, EV & Earthlings NYC 1 2022, MSG 2022, Louisville 2022, Dublin 2024, MSG 1 2024, MSG 2 2024
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    edited December 2021
    tdawe said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    pretty sure tdawe's sarcasm missed you both. 
    Honestly it didn’t occur to me that the “band” referred to in the post I was quoting could be taken to mean “Eddie Vedder & The Earthlings”, but that is a very funny angle on it. 

    Edit: I guess we're having two different conversations. 

    Sorry I responded this morning... have a great day. 
    Post edited by Merkin Baller on
  • P34RL J4MM3R
    P34RL J4MM3R Posts: 1,342
    BF25394 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    JimmyV said:
    Ed's chatter on the next tour runs the risk of coming across very, very badly. 

    What's the cutoff ticket price for his chatter to be acceptable?
    It's a sliding scale.  Over $200, no chatter is acceptable.  Between $150 and $200, light eat-the-rich chatter is permitted, but only during the encore.  Between $100 and $150, the main set is fair game.  Between $50 and $100, harsh but generic condemnations of the wealthy are O.K.  Below $50, it's a free-for-all.  He can name names.
    Yes, for sure a sliding scale.  And BF25394 is pretty spot on.

    And just FYI it is also Inversely Proportional for amount of Rare songs in a set.
    Below $50 is all hits and can be a Festival Set.
    Between $50 & $100 maybe a few covers and rare Tag.
    Between $100 & $150 at least Bee Girl Rare songs, but only 1 or 2.
    Between $150 and $200, maybe a one-off Tag, Getting into Strangest Tribe territory. And at least 3.
    Over $200 - Requires a New Live Debut song.  Other rare gems and a story never told at a show before are also included.

    The Earthlings better be practicing up on their one-offs.  And now Ed needs 9 new stories.
    There's no need to say goodbye
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited December 2021
    P34RL J4MM3R said:
    BF25394 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    JimmyV said:
    Ed's chatter on the next tour runs the risk of coming across very, very badly. 

    What's the cutoff ticket price for his chatter to be acceptable?
    It's a sliding scale.  Over $200, no chatter is acceptable.  Between $150 and $200, light eat-the-rich chatter is permitted, but only during the encore.  Between $100 and $150, the main set is fair game.  Between $50 and $100, harsh but generic condemnations of the wealthy are O.K.  Below $50, it's a free-for-all.  He can name names.
    Yes, for sure a sliding scale.  And BF25394 is pretty spot on.

    And just FYI it is also Inversely Proportional for amount of Rare songs in a set.
    Below $50 is all hits and can be a Festival Set.
    Between $50 & $100 maybe a few covers and rare Tag.
    Between $100 & $150 at least Bee Girl Rare songs, but only 1 or 2.
    Between $150 and $200, maybe a one-off Tag, Getting into Strangest Tribe territory. And at least 3.
    Over $200 - Requires a New Live Debut song.  Other rare gems and a story never told at a show before are also included.

    The Earthlings better be practicing up on their one-offs.  And now Ed needs 9 new stories.
    I would pay $750 to hear him play Dirty Frank in the encore… solo 

    if he wants to try it on the ukulele that’s up to him. Glen joining in at some point and/or providing backing vocals would also be acceptable 


    Post edited by Cropduster-80 on
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,692
    Merkin Baller said:
    tdawe said:
    pjl44 said:
    The real problem is when a band hits a certain level of popularity they inevitably have to deal with some contingent of petulant, entitled obsessives
    Listen, all I want is for my favorite band to be popular enough to pack an arena full of screaming fans who are fucking pumped because they consider themselves very fortunate to be there, but not so popular that I can’t always easily get a ticket for a price that I don’t have to think twice about. Honestly I don’t think that’s too much to ask. 
    'Eddie & The Earthlings is my favorite band' is something I've never seen written in this forum.

    That doesn't mean it hasn't been said, it just means the next time I see it will be the first time.  
    If you put your thumb over And The Earthlings it all comes into focus
  • ddeschler
    ddeschler Posts: 690

    Is Ed playing bass on this tour?  He's holding a bass in that picture, so I've gotta assume he is.  Definitely worth the $250 to see that!
    I've seen quite a few Pearl Jam shows.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,117
    ddeschler said:

    Is Ed playing bass on this tour?  He's holding a bass in that picture, so I've gotta assume he is.  Definitely worth the $250 to see that!
    I don't think that's a bass. I think it's a type of ukulele strung like a bass or guitar. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • halv
    halv Posts: 717
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    ddeschler said:

    Is Ed playing bass on this tour?  He's holding a bass in that picture, so I've gotta assume he is.  Definitely worth the $250 to see that!
    I don't think that's a bass. I think it's a type of ukulele strung like a bass or guitar. 
    Looks similar to the guitar Ian Mackaye plays in The Evans. 
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    patkelly12 said:
    Complaining is a problem now? You may want to mention that to Eddie.
    Well said!  I can't believe he's still singing about the "haves"!  The haves really don't have a clue, right Ed?!  :)

    I'll also say release the tracklist of an album or at the VERY least how many songs are on it if you are going to post it for presale.  And especially if you are going to post a "deluxe" version of it.


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  • smile6680
    smile6680 Posts: 437
    pjl44 said:
    The real problem is when a band hits a certain level of popularity they inevitably have to deal with some contingent of petulant, entitled obsessives
    I agree. This forum has always been that way. The previous version of this forum(synergy if I remember correctly) seemed to be a never ending contest of who was the biggest fan. 
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,411
    I think it is a bass. Someone posted the twitter or Instagram with commentary from the photographer.
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • rustneversleeps
    rustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    tenor guitar.
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,411
    I couldn’t find the post about the guitar so I’ll take it! Definitely not his regular guitar.
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22

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