America's Gun Violence #2

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    she should be charged with child endangerment, having her young kids pose with fucking war machines like that. 
    That pic I think it's a wee bit much too but I was 9 when I fired my first AR-15.  It wasn't until years later when I met anti-gun people that it wasn't something that everyone did...
    that's pure insanity. 

    pure insanity is taking your similar age daughter to a range to live fire an uzi.....
    who did that?
    Not sure if this was what he was referring to or not, but several years ago a family took their 9 or 10 year old daughter to a range and had a professional teach her how to use a fully auto gun (could have been an uzi, I don’t remember.) she lost control when it was in full auto and killed the instructor. Made national news for a while.
    i remember being relentless on those parents in a thread back at that time.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,418
    Is this common among "responsible" gun owners?

    Colorado GOP Rep. Lauren Boebert posted a Christmas photo of her family wielding rifles, joining a fellow Republican who was criticized for posting a similar photo after a high-school shooting.

    Boebert posted the photo Tuesday. It shows her in front of a Christmas tree with her four sons, each of whom has a gun. She isn't armed in the photo, and it doesn't feature her husband.

    Boebert is a vocal gun-rights activist who gained prominence last year after pledging to carry a gun around Congress when she was elected.

    "The Boeberts have your six, @RepThomasMassie!" she wrote alongside the photo. 

    Lauren Boebert posted her own Christmas photo brandishing assault rifles with her kids after a GOP rep was criticized for his (msn.com)


  • Is this common among "responsible" gun owners?

    Colorado GOP Rep. Lauren Boebert posted a Christmas photo of her family wielding rifles, joining a fellow Republican who was criticized for posting a similar photo after a high-school shooting.

    Boebert posted the photo Tuesday. It shows her in front of a Christmas tree with her four sons, each of whom has a gun. She isn't armed in the photo, and it doesn't feature her husband.

    Boebert is a vocal gun-rights activist who gained prominence last year after pledging to carry a gun around Congress when she was elected.

    "The Boeberts have your six, @RepThomasMassie!" she wrote alongside the photo. 

    Lauren Boebert posted her own Christmas photo brandishing assault rifles with her kids after a GOP rep was criticized for his (msn.com)


    The kid in the Packers hoody looks like he’s ready to shoot someone and the kid in the Raiders sweatshirt looks like he’s about to cry. The kid to the far right appears to be thinking, “Ha, Ha, mom’s drinking again,” and the little one appears bored and looks like he just wants to go back to playing LEGO.
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  • nicknyr15
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    Is this common among "responsible" gun owners?

    Colorado GOP Rep. Lauren Boebert posted a Christmas photo of her family wielding rifles, joining a fellow Republican who was criticized for posting a similar photo after a high-school shooting.

    Boebert posted the photo Tuesday. It shows her in front of a Christmas tree with her four sons, each of whom has a gun. She isn't armed in the photo, and it doesn't feature her husband.

    Boebert is a vocal gun-rights activist who gained prominence last year after pledging to carry a gun around Congress when she was elected.

    "The Boeberts have your six, @RepThomasMassie!" she wrote alongside the photo. 

    Lauren Boebert posted her own Christmas photo brandishing assault rifles with her kids after a GOP rep was criticized for his (msn.com)


    The kid in the Packers hoody looks like he’s ready to shoot someone and the kid in the Raiders sweatshirt looks like he’s about to cry. The kid to the far right appears to be thinking, “Ha, Ha, mom’s drinking again,” and the little one appears bored and looks like he just wants to go back to playing LEGO.
    I’d be embarrassed to post anything remotely resembling this pic. I don’t know the point they’re trying to make. 
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Good for Boebert having four kids. That way when one's dead and the other's in juvie, at least she's got two more.
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  • stuckinline
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    Is this common among "responsible" gun owners?

    Colorado GOP Rep. Lauren Boebert posted a Christmas photo of her family wielding rifles, joining a fellow Republican who was criticized for posting a similar photo after a high-school shooting.

    Boebert posted the photo Tuesday. It shows her in front of a Christmas tree with her four sons, each of whom has a gun. She isn't armed in the photo, and it doesn't feature her husband.

    Boebert is a vocal gun-rights activist who gained prominence last year after pledging to carry a gun around Congress when she was elected.

    "The Boeberts have your six, @RepThomasMassie!" she wrote alongside the photo. 

    Lauren Boebert posted her own Christmas photo brandishing assault rifles with her kids after a GOP rep was criticized for his (msn.com)



    Tell me again where Christ said “use the commemoration of my birth to flex violent weapons for personal political gain”? lol @ all the years Republicans spent on cultural hysteria of society “erasing Christmas and it’s meaning” when they’re doing that fine all on their own
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    edited December 2021
    couldn't post the pic because the file format is not allowed, but it's funny. 

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGDZCfrUYAAcRKQ?format=jpg&name=360x360
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  • Parksy
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    Is this common among "responsible" gun owners?

    Colorado GOP Rep. Lauren Boebert posted a Christmas photo of her family wielding rifles, joining a fellow Republican who was criticized for posting a similar photo after a high-school shooting.

    Boebert posted the photo Tuesday. It shows her in front of a Christmas tree with her four sons, each of whom has a gun. She isn't armed in the photo, and it doesn't feature her husband.

    Boebert is a vocal gun-rights activist who gained prominence last year after pledging to carry a gun around Congress when she was elected.

    "The Boeberts have your six, @RepThomasMassie!" she wrote alongside the photo. 

    Lauren Boebert posted her own Christmas photo brandishing assault rifles with her kids after a GOP rep was criticized for his (msn.com)



    Tell me again where Christ said “use the commemoration of my birth to flex violent weapons for personal political gain”? lol @ all the years Republicans spent on cultural hysteria of society “erasing Christmas and it’s meaning” when they’re doing that fine all on their own
    I read that Boebert clapped back at AOCs tweet by saying that AOC was 'attacking' her children and their christmas presents.   I'm like... ok hold on.. so, not only are you comfortable with posting this photo, but you're also ok admitting that those semi automatic guns are christmas presents for your pre-teens?  JFC. 
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  • Parksy said:
    Is this common among "responsible" gun owners?

    Colorado GOP Rep. Lauren Boebert posted a Christmas photo of her family wielding rifles, joining a fellow Republican who was criticized for posting a similar photo after a high-school shooting.

    Boebert posted the photo Tuesday. It shows her in front of a Christmas tree with her four sons, each of whom has a gun. She isn't armed in the photo, and it doesn't feature her husband.

    Boebert is a vocal gun-rights activist who gained prominence last year after pledging to carry a gun around Congress when she was elected.

    "The Boeberts have your six, @RepThomasMassie!" she wrote alongside the photo. 

    Lauren Boebert posted her own Christmas photo brandishing assault rifles with her kids after a GOP rep was criticized for his (msn.com)



    Tell me again where Christ said “use the commemoration of my birth to flex violent weapons for personal political gain”? lol @ all the years Republicans spent on cultural hysteria of society “erasing Christmas and it’s meaning” when they’re doing that fine all on their own
    I read that Boebert clapped back at AOCs tweet by saying that AOC was 'attacking' her children and their christmas presents.   I'm like... ok hold on.. so, not only are you comfortable with posting this photo, but you're also ok admitting that those semi automatic guns are christmas presents for your pre-teens?  JFC. 
    Even If they were airsoft rifles I wouldn't have my kids pose for them on a christmas card.
  • Another “responsible” gun owner just bringing their gun to work on a day the POTUS happens to be stopping by.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/09/politics/capitol-hill-gun-arrest/index.html
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    in other news kent state gun girl is prego.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • in other news kent state gun girl is prego.
    Guns and ammo for the baby shower? Shoot the rising balloon for the gender reveal?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    in other news kent state gun girl is prego.
    GROSS
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  • gimmesometruth27
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    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,196
    edited December 2021
    Is this what it means to be “responsible?”

    Since 1999, children have committed at least 175 school shootings, according to a new Washington Post analysis. Among the 114 cases in which the weapon’s source was identified by police, 77 percent were taken from the child’s home or those of relatives or friends. And yet, The Post discovered just five instances when the adult owners of the weapons were criminally punished because they failed to lock them up. Another three cases in which adults were charged, including the one against the Crumbleys, are pending.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/12/09/parents-school-shooters-charges-crumbleys/
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    edited December 2021
    “Responsibility,” eh? Fucking madness. Merry Christmas. From the article above.

    Twenty-one years ago, in a town just 40 miles from Oxford, Mich., a first-grader found a handgun in a shoe box, took it to school and used it to kill a 6-year-old classmate. The 19-year-old man who owned the weapon later pleaded no contest to involuntary manslaughter and served 29 months behind bars.

    No gun owners since have faced a harsher penalty for allowing their firearms to fall into the hands of a child school shooter.

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    https://www.wftv.com/news/local/local-university-student-accused-planning-mass-shooting-appear-before-judge-this-afternoon/FFSAWWE755FTRNU4Q675C3WL5M/

    Daytona Beach Police Chief Jakari Young said two students are credited with alerting campus security after they saw threatening messages Hagins made on Snapchat around 4:10 a.m. Thursday.
  • cutz said:

    https://www.wftv.com/news/local/local-university-student-accused-planning-mass-shooting-appear-before-judge-this-afternoon/FFSAWWE755FTRNU4Q675C3WL5M/

    Daytona Beach Police Chief Jakari Young said two students are credited with alerting campus security after they saw threatening messages Hagins made on Snapchat around 4:10 a.m. Thursday.
    Does he get his firearm returned?
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  • mickeyrat
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    open a certain door trying to be cute, you never know who else may come behind you.....


     

    California governor wants Texas-like law to ban assault guns
    By ADAM BEAM
    Today

    SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Saturday pledged to empower private citizens to enforce a ban on the manufacture and sale of assault weapons in the state, citing the same authority claimed by conservative lawmakers in Texas to outlaw most abortions once a heartbeat is detected.

    California has banned the manufacture and sale of many assault-style weapons for decades. A federal judge overturned that ban in June, ruling it was unconstitutional and drawing the ire of the state's Democratic leaders by comparing the popular AR-15 rifle to a Swiss Army knife as “good for both home and battle.” California's ban remained in place while the state appealed.

    Meanwhile, Republican lawmakers in Texas this year passed a law banning abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detected, which normally occurs at about six weeks into pregnancy. The Texas law allows private citizens to enforce the ban, empowering them to sue abortion clinics and anyone else who “aids and abets” with the procedure.

    Friday, the U.S. Supreme Court allowed the Texas law to remain in effect while abortion clinics sue to block it. That decision incensed Newsom, a Democrat who supports abortion rights.

    “If states can now shield their laws from review by the federal courts that compare assault weapons to Swiss Army knives, then California will use that authority to protect people's lives, where Texas used it to put women in harm's way,” Newsom said in a statement released by his office at 7 p.m. on Saturday.

    Newsom said he has directed his staff to work with the state's Legislature and its Democratic attorney general to pass a law that would let private citizens sue to enforce California's ban on assault weapons. Newsom said people who sue could win up to $10,000 per violation plus other costs and attorneys fees against “anyone who manufactures, distributes, or sells an assault weapon” in California.

    “If the most efficient way to keep these devastating weapons off our streets is to add the threat of private lawsuits, we should do just that,” Newsom said.

    The legal fight over the Texas abortion law has focused on its unusual structure and whether it improperly limits how the law can be challenged in court. Texas lawmakers handed responsibility for enforcing the law to private citizens, rather than state officials.

    The case raised a complex set of issues about who, if anyone, can sue over the law in federal court, the typical route for challenges to abortion restrictions.

    Newsom's gun proposal would first have to pass California’s state Legislature before it could become law. The Legislature is not in session now and is scheduled to reconvene in January. It usually takes about eight months for new bills to pass the Legislature, barring special circumstances.

    State Sen. Brian Dahle, a Republican from Bieber, would oppose the plan but predicted it could probably pass California's Democratic-dominated state Legislature. He said the proposal was most likely a stunt for Newsom to win favor with his progressive base of voters ahead of a possible run for president in the future.

    “The right to bear arms is different than the right to have an abortion. The right to have an abortion is not a constitutional amendment. So I think he’s way off base,” Dahle said. “I think he's just using it as an opportunity to grandstand.”

    But Newsom's Saturday night declaration is a fulfilled prophecy for some gun rights groups who had predicted progressive states would attempt to use Texas' abortion law to restrict access to guns. That's why the Firearms Policy Coalition, a nonprofit group that advocates for gun rights, filed a brief with the U.S. Supreme Court opposing the Texas law.

    "If Texas succeeds in its gambit here, New York, California, New Jersey, and others will not be far behind in adopting equally aggressive gambits to not merely chill but to freeze the right to keep and bear arms," attorney Erik Jaffe wrote on behalf of the Firearms Policy Coalition.


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