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  • From CNN...

    Prosecutor: Suspect's parents left school without son after being told of his behavior morning of shooting

    Oakland County, Michigan, Prosecutor Karen McDonald outlined some of the key events that took place on the day of the shooting.

    A teacher of shooting suspect, Ethan Crumbley, found a note on his desk on the morning of the shooting that "alarmed her to the point she took a picture of it on her cell phone."

    She said the note included a drawing of a semiautomatic handgun pointing at the words, "the thoughts won't stop, help me." The note also included a section with a drawing of a bullet with the words "blood everywhere."

    The parents of the suspect "were immediately summoned" to the school, McDonald said. The prosecutor noted that the suspect altered the note before it was retrieved by a counselor.

    "At the meeting James and Jennifer Crumbley were shown the drawing and were advised that they were required to get the — their son into counseling within 48 hours," she said.

    The prosecutor said the parents "failed to ask their son if he had his gun with him or where his gun was located and failed to inspect his backpack for the presence of the gun which he had with him."

    The parents resisted the idea of their son leaving the school at that time and they left the school without him, she added. He was returned to the classroom.

    Jesus, if a school immediately summons you and tells you that you need to get your son into counseling within 48 hours, why the f would you leave your kid at school?

    Why the fuck would you give your 15 year old son a semi-automatic hand gun?
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    edited December 2021

    From CNN...

    Prosecutor: Suspect's parents left school without son after being told of his behavior morning of shooting

    Oakland County, Michigan, Prosecutor Karen McDonald outlined some of the key events that took place on the day of the shooting.

    A teacher of shooting suspect, Ethan Crumbley, found a note on his desk on the morning of the shooting that "alarmed her to the point she took a picture of it on her cell phone."

    She said the note included a drawing of a semiautomatic handgun pointing at the words, "the thoughts won't stop, help me." The note also included a section with a drawing of a bullet with the words "blood everywhere."

    The parents of the suspect "were immediately summoned" to the school, McDonald said. The prosecutor noted that the suspect altered the note before it was retrieved by a counselor.

    "At the meeting James and Jennifer Crumbley were shown the drawing and were advised that they were required to get the — their son into counseling within 48 hours," she said.

    The prosecutor said the parents "failed to ask their son if he had his gun with him or where his gun was located and failed to inspect his backpack for the presence of the gun which he had with him."

    The parents resisted the idea of their son leaving the school at that time and they left the school without him, she added. He was returned to the classroom.

    Jesus, if a school immediately summons you and tells you that you need to get your son into counseling within 48 hours, why the f would you leave your kid at school?

    Why the fuck would you give your 15 year old son a semi-automatic hand gun?

    ...and I bet his parents didn't have him vaccinated either!


  • Odds they end up at the Bundy Ranch?

    Police are searching for Michigan school shooting suspect's parents

    Police are currently searching for Michigan school shooting suspect Ethan Crumbley’s parents just hours before they are scheduled to be arraigned on involuntary manslaughter charges, according to authorities.

    The county prosecutor said his father bought the gun four days before it was used in the shooting. The suspect was with him and later posted on social media about the gun, calling it "my new beauty."

    (4) Police are searching for Michigan school shooting suspect's parents (cnn.com)

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  • cblock4life
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    Odds they end up at the Bundy Ranch?

    Police are searching for Michigan school shooting suspect's parents

    Police are currently searching for Michigan school shooting suspect Ethan Crumbley’s parents just hours before they are scheduled to be arraigned on involuntary manslaughter charges, according to authorities.

    The county prosecutor said his father bought the gun four days before it was used in the shooting. The suspect was with him and later posted on social media about the gun, calling it "my new beauty."

    (4) Police are searching for Michigan school shooting suspect's parents (cnn.com)

    Once again a woman prosecutor doing a kick ass job, sounding confident, using common sense.  Maybe we need to have women take over a lot more than we’re allowed. 
  • Odds they end up at the Bundy Ranch?

    Police are searching for Michigan school shooting suspect's parents

    Police are currently searching for Michigan school shooting suspect Ethan Crumbley’s parents just hours before they are scheduled to be arraigned on involuntary manslaughter charges, according to authorities.

    The county prosecutor said his father bought the gun four days before it was used in the shooting. The suspect was with him and later posted on social media about the gun, calling it "my new beauty."

    (4) Police are searching for Michigan school shooting suspect's parents (cnn.com)

    Once again a woman prosecutor doing a kick ass job, sounding confident, using common sense.  Maybe we need to have women take over a lot more than we’re allowed. 
    Couldn't agree more.
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  • mickeyrat
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    social media posts from both shooter AND his mother with the same pic of the gun and mags in an open case.

    his stating "my new beauty"  hers stating "his early xmas present"
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  • nicknyr15
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    mickeyrat said:
    social media posts from both shooter AND his mother with the same pic of the gun and mags in an open case.

    his stating "my new beauty"  hers stating "his early xmas present"
    That’s hot. 
  • mickeyrat
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Neat. 

    They should get the Shirley Jackson treatment from the friends and family of the deceased children. 

    But more than likely, they’ll be out on bail and maybe running for office before we know it. 
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,218
    Did I miss this?!! Holy fuck dude. Good old fashioned  Father vs son free for all match. 

  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited December 2021
    I’m not sticking up for this kid, but wow those parents. That kid never had a chance

    parents were never going to get him the help he obviously needed. Now you’ve got a kid with probably serious mental issues, being tried as an adult.

    no excuse for what he did, but I’m more mad at the parents. 

    Running away when your child is in custody tells you all you need to know 
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,218
    I’m not sticking up for this kid, but wow those parents. That kid never had a chance

    parents were never going to get him the help he obviously needed. Now you’ve got a kid with probably serious mental issues, being tried as an adult.

    no excuse for what he did, but I’m more mad at the parents. 

    Running away when your child is in custody tells you all you need to know 
    Oh hell yea. The parents are dogshit. The father allegedly gets mad his son has a gun so he…… gets his gun and engages in a shoot out with him. Makes a lot of sense. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,371
    nicknyr15 said:
    I’m not sticking up for this kid, but wow those parents. That kid never had a chance

    parents were never going to get him the help he obviously needed. Now you’ve got a kid with probably serious mental issues, being tried as an adult.

    no excuse for what he did, but I’m more mad at the parents. 

    Running away when your child is in custody tells you all you need to know 
    Oh hell yea. The parents are dogshit. The father allegedly gets mad his son has a gun so he…… gets his gun and engages in a shoot out with him. Makes a lot of sense. 

    they were talking about the school shooters parents on michigan.

    not your video.
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,218
    mickeyrat said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I’m not sticking up for this kid, but wow those parents. That kid never had a chance

    parents were never going to get him the help he obviously needed. Now you’ve got a kid with probably serious mental issues, being tried as an adult.

    no excuse for what he did, but I’m more mad at the parents. 

    Running away when your child is in custody tells you all you need to know 
    Oh hell yea. The parents are dogshit. The father allegedly gets mad his son has a gun so he…… gets his gun and engages in a shoot out with him. Makes a lot of sense. 

    they were talking about the school shooters parents on michigan.

    not your video.
    Ohhh thank you. I still maintain that stance. They’re dogshit too. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,371
    nicknyr15 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    I’m not sticking up for this kid, but wow those parents. That kid never had a chance

    parents were never going to get him the help he obviously needed. Now you’ve got a kid with probably serious mental issues, being tried as an adult.

    no excuse for what he did, but I’m more mad at the parents. 

    Running away when your child is in custody tells you all you need to know 
    Oh hell yea. The parents are dogshit. The father allegedly gets mad his son has a gun so he…… gets his gun and engages in a shoot out with him. Makes a lot of sense. 

    they were talking about the school shooters parents on michigan.

    not your video.
    Ohhh thank you. I still maintain that stance. They’re dogshit too. 

    figured.....
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    dankind said:
    Neat. 

    They should get the Shirley Jackson treatment from the friends and family of the deceased children. 

    But more than likely, they’ll be out on bail and maybe running for office before we know it. 
    Or gigs as talking heads on foQsnooze,  oan, newsmax, or infowars
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

    U.S. congressman posts family Christmas picture with guns, days after school shooting


    Just a normal American…

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    If the school officials had called the cops like YOU SHOULD DO in situations like this then everyone is likely alive, a 15 year old kid would be getting help needed (hopefully) and families aren’t grieving.  The school fucked up…

    you can blame the Neanderthal parents if people choose…but calling the parents over qualified law enforcement to deal with this situation showed a serious lack of judgement by the school…

    Expecting all parents to show good judgement is ludicrous.  The only qualification in being a parent is the ability to have sex.  I expect school board staff to be wiser than parents…
    Give Peas A Chance…
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