OLED or QLED?

I agree with the 5 year thing. My old tv that I replaced last year is now in my bedroom because it has multiple faint white spots on the screen. It was a top of the line Samsung led back in 2015 or '16, can't quite remember. The spots started appearing about a year ago. It was the perfect television until that stuff started appearing. 

I've had a Panasonic 3D plasma for the last 8 years, I bought the LG C1 a month ago and I am still debating on returning it.

The picture quality is amazing but there are a few things that irk me about it.  The TV has vertical banding that you can see on certain colour backgrounds, mostly greys and certain blues but I can see it in full white as well.  From what I've learned this is very common on OLEDs and often goes away after 100-150 hours.  I'm past that and it hasn't changed and while I don't see it 100% of the time, it annoys me when I do...

Dolby Vision is pretty much useless for video content as it adds a serious audio delay.  This TV in general seems to have issues with audio delay and the Series X defaults HDR content to DV on the regular.  Streaming Disney+ with the Xbox is unwatchable because of the audio lag (even if DV is off, it seems!) and there are only a handful of games actually created with DV - if they aren't created with DV then chances are they look better with HDR instead, so I've disabled DV on my Xbox.

Planet Earth 2/Blue Planet 2 were my big HDR tests and they don't disappoint, video-wise.  The Attenborough introduction still had audio lag.
Horizon 5 and some other games that really utilize HDR (Ori) look stunning as well.

It was down to this tv and the Sony A80J, and with a 3 month return window at Costco Canada I decided just to try this.  The Sony still hasn't added VRR and some other gaming features and although they've promised they're coming, never buy an electronic device based on future promises.  They also botched the x900 update, which isn't really comparable but still not reassuring.

I might just return it and see what next year's tvs are like instead.

EDIT - I exchanged the TV for the same and the banding/panel discrepancies are cleaned up to the point it's hard to tell if I can actually see anything so that is much better.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Bought a LG G1 55 inch for $1600 yesterday. Lowest price it has had yet, and pretty much in line with what the GX cost last summer/Fall before disappearing. 

Hurts buying such an "expensive" TV, and also with mine (2014 Plasma) working, and I have never had any problems with it. 

Maybe I should have bought a cheaper Samsung The Frame (that also is made to hang)... or a QE95 that is also made to hang and has that nifty One Connect Box... (not as readily available though) eh... but whatever...

I bought a 65" C1 a few months ago, G1 was a little out of budget.  You won't regret it!

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Rygar said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Bought a LG G1 55 inch for $1600 yesterday. Lowest price it has had yet, and pretty much in line with what the GX cost last summer/Fall before disappearing. 

Hurts buying such an "expensive" TV, and also with mine (2014 Plasma) working, and I have never had any problems with it. 

Maybe I should have bought a cheaper Samsung The Frame (that also is made to hang)... or a QE95 that is also made to hang and has that nifty One Connect Box... (not as readily available though) eh... but whatever...

I bought a 65" C1 a few months ago, G1 was a little out of budget.  You won't regret it!

If having in on my tv bench was an option then I would have picked a C-series. Now I am paying extra for it being made to hang designwise and for the lack of a stand...

But didn't have many options.

Just hate the fact that cables will hang out of the TV. The Samsung QE95 (this years model for some reason much more expensive than the G1) has the one connect box with is greeeeeeaaaaat....


Do you have any nitpicks about the TV?

There is a cable channel in the centre of the base so at least you can have them all come out in one spot

I do have some nitpicks but they are all regarding how the unit works with an Xbox and Dolby Vision.  They don't talk to each other well and I stopped using streaming services (D+, Netflix, etc) and the media player on the Xbox Series X and just use the TV apps for streaming and TV's USB ports for media.  There is significant audio lag when using the Xbox for streaming and video content, and for 4k discs you have to turn off one or two of the video features on the Xbox to avoid having no video during playback.

The TV has an audio lag management feature but that is only good if the audio is ahead of the video.  My home theatre receiver is also older so it doesn't pass 4k video, nor does it have an eArc port, so my set up is everything running through the TV, and optical from the tv to the receiver for audio.  I'll update this when HDMI 2.1 capable receivers are a lot cheaper and more plentiful, although the recent acquisition of Marantz/Denon/Polk Audio/etc by that medical tech company might not help that area.

The picture quality on the tv is fantastic and the features make it the best gaming TV if you're into that.  Sony's OLEDs are also really good, better PQ on the competitive model but a little worse on the gaming features, not that you'd notice much difference with the naked eye.

If you ARE a gamer here, Vincent at HDTVTest has some good videos on the LG OLEDs - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2DNCpj5mpU

Spiritual_Chaos said:

My LG G1 is up on the wall. Too bad there are no good looking "cable hiders" for the cords... grr......... .. .. .. . . . .. .

Cut into the wall.  I had the Best Buy installers do it when they delivered my TV.  Cost more, but totally worth the clean look.