Show how $6B will solve world hunger, and I'll donate it: Elon Musk to United Nations

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Show how $6B will solve world hunger, and I'll donate it: Elon Musk to United Nations


Get on it UN..Show us your not a totally useless money pit full of leeches…



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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Some very smart and wise people have been saying for a long time that simply giving third world nations money and food will not end world hunger.  Helping them learn how to be self-sufficient and lowering their population will.  It's amazing that this is still not understood.
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  • F Me In The Brain
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    In fairness, Musk was given millions by the govt and used it to make himself filthy rich.  It is what he knows.  ;)
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    F Me In The Brain said:
    In fairness, Musk was given millions by the govt and used it to make himself filthy rich.  It is what he knows.  ;)
    Given millions by the govt? Can you elaborate? Sure, he has deals with the government, but that's a transaction - money for services - not a handout.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    brianlux said:
    Some very smart and wise people have been saying for a long time that simply giving third world nations money and food will not end world hunger.  Helping them learn how to be self-sufficient and lowering their population will.  It's amazing that this is still not understood.
    This sounds very......Republican. Not the part about caring about world hunger. But the bolded part versus just giving third world nations money and food. 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    brianlux said:
    Some very smart and wise people have been saying for a long time that simply giving third world nations money and food will not end world hunger.  Helping them learn how to be self-sufficient and lowering their population will.  It's amazing that this is still not understood.
    This sounds very......Republican. Not the part about caring about world hunger. But the bolded part versus just giving third world nations money and food. 

    Oh brother.  What is this, "Fuck Brian Lux the Republican Week"?
    NOT!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    brianlux said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    brianlux said:
    Some very smart and wise people have been saying for a long time that simply giving third world nations money and food will not end world hunger.  Helping them learn how to be self-sufficient and lowering their population will.  It's amazing that this is still not understood.
    This sounds very......Republican. Not the part about caring about world hunger. But the bolded part versus just giving third world nations money and food. 

    Oh brother.  What is this, "Fuck Brian Lux the Republican Week"?
    NOT!
    It's a good thing.  Would you rather adhere to every aspect of one party's ideology, or be open to some ideologies of the opposing party?
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,813
    benjs said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    In fairness, Musk was given millions by the govt and used it to make himself filthy rich.  It is what he knows.  ;)
    Given millions by the govt? Can you elaborate? Sure, he has deals with the government, but that's a transaction - money for services - not a handout.
    Given is not the right wording....you are right.
    He was subsidized $400M + when his company wasn't making money and paid it back when it was.

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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited November 2021
    brianlux said:
    Some very smart and wise people have been saying for a long time that simply giving third world nations money and food will not end world hunger.  Helping them learn how to be self-sufficient and lowering their population will.  It's amazing that this is still not understood.
    I agree.  Isn’t there a saying referring to fish where someone addressed this very issue a couple thousand years ago?  We humans are slow to learn.
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,090
    F Me In The Brain said:
    benjs said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    In fairness, Musk was given millions by the govt and used it to make himself filthy rich.  It is what he knows.  ;)
    Given millions by the govt? Can you elaborate? Sure, he has deals with the government, but that's a transaction - money for services - not a handout.
    Given is not the right wording....you are right.
    He was subsidized $400M + when his company wasn't making money and paid it back when it was.

    Is his company actually making money or is it just speculative, like is he actually turning a profit off of his car sales and rocket contracts?
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJPOWER said:
    brianlux said:
    Some very smart and wise people have been saying for a long time that simply giving third world nations money and food will not end world hunger.  Helping them learn how to be self-sufficient and lowering their population will.  It's amazing that this is still not understood.
    I agree.  Isn’t there a saying referring to fish where someone addressed this very issue a couple thousand years ago?  We humans are slow to learn.
    "Give peoplekind a fish you feed them for a day, teach them to fish and you feed them for a lifetime..."
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    brianlux said:
    Some very smart and wise people have been saying for a long time that simply giving third world nations money and food will not end world hunger.  Helping them learn how to be self-sufficient and lowering their population will.  It's amazing that this is still not understood.
    I agree.  Isn’t there a saying referring to fish where someone addressed this very issue a couple thousand years ago?  We humans are slow to learn.
    "Give peoplekind a fish you feed them for a day, teach them to fish and you feed them for a lifetime..."
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    That’s all well and good, but the reality is that many of these countries have been stripped of their resources by the “developed” world and are now seeing further damage due to climate change. We, the developed nations, have caused most of their problems to serve our own desires for material wealth and now we have the audacity to pretend that they really just need us to teach them how to live in their own countries? 

    No, they need reparations for the damage we have caused, and lots of it. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,395
    oftenreading said:
    That’s all well and good, but the reality is that many of these countries have been stripped of their resources by the “developed” world and are now seeing further damage due to climate change. We, the developed nations, have caused most of their problems to serve our own desires for material wealth and now we have the audacity to pretend that they really just need us to teach them how to live in their own countries? 

    No, they need reparations for the damage we have caused, and lots of it. 
    So teaching them to rebuild, plan, and function could be tools to help them then.

    Even doing that World Hunger will never be eradicated.  Another group will eventually pop up somewhere else.

    It's a bold statement by Elon.  I hope someone derives a plan to take him for his word.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    oftenreading said:
    That’s all well and good, but the reality is that many of these countries have been stripped of their resources by the “developed” world and are now seeing further damage due to climate change. We, the developed nations, have caused most of their problems to serve our own desires for material wealth and now we have the audacity to pretend that they really just need us to teach them how to live in their own countries? 

    No, they need reparations for the damage we have caused, and lots of it. 
    That is very true and worth considering.  How many of us have taken old computers and cell phones to e-waste drop offs?  We can't fool ourselves and believe all of our electronics get recycled in a nice clean, tidy manner. 
    Photo of discarded electronics poisoning African children:
    Discarded Electronics Are Poisoning African Children

    I'm still for helping third world countries find ways to be more self-sufficient (this is not just a Republican agenda), lower population, and improve education, but we do owe for some of this.

    OK, back to my coffee (yes, another first world luxury I have yet to give up.  :frowning:)




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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    LMFAO…so when is BC going to pay restitution for living on unseeded territory and destroying indigenous lands in the name of money…

    We have homeless people everywhere and indigenous peoples living in 3rd world condition on their own land in which all settlers ever do is offer them their platitudes, but let’s pay restitution to everyone…


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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,813
    static111 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    benjs said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    In fairness, Musk was given millions by the govt and used it to make himself filthy rich.  It is what he knows.  ;)
    Given millions by the govt? Can you elaborate? Sure, he has deals with the government, but that's a transaction - money for services - not a handout.
    Given is not the right wording....you are right.
    He was subsidized $400M + when his company wasn't making money and paid it back when it was.

    Is his company actually making money or is it just speculative, like is he actually turning a profit off of his car sales and rocket contracts?

    Don't know about Spacex but Tesla is making a huge profit, and has been for a while now. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Meltdown99 said:
    LMFAO…so when is BC going to pay restitution for living on unseeded territory and destroying indigenous lands in the name of money…

    We have homeless people everywhere and indigenous peoples living in 3rd world condition on their own land in which all settlers ever do is offer them their platitudes, but let’s pay restitution to everyone…


    I also agree with reparations for indigenous people/nations, but I don’t think that’s really relevant to this thread. 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    When did the Canadian military invade these poor countries and steal their resources, or do you mean corporations made deals with these country governments and the harvested their resources?  Either way unless GOVERNMENT stole the resources I fail to see why the taxpayer should be on the hook…especially when we have problems that get passed in from PM to PM.  But yeah sure let’s continue to steal from the middle class to give to the military, elites or ruling class of these countries..
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    brianlux said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    brianlux said:
    Some very smart and wise people have been saying for a long time that simply giving third world nations money and food will not end world hunger.  Helping them learn how to be self-sufficient and lowering their population will.  It's amazing that this is still not understood.
    This sounds very......Republican. Not the part about caring about world hunger. But the bolded part versus just giving third world nations money and food. 

    Oh brother.  What is this, "Fuck Brian Lux the Republican Week"?
    NOT!
    It's a good thing.  Would you rather adhere to every aspect of one party's ideology, or be open to some ideologies of the opposing party?

    The real issue is probably that the word "Republican" kinda needs to be taken off the table in this context. The Republican party is really just a crazy anti-democratic cult now, not a legitimate political leaning that espouses reasonable ideologies for normal people. That kind of "Republican" is pretty much dead now.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,674
    brianlux said:
    oftenreading said:
    That’s all well and good, but the reality is that many of these countries have been stripped of their resources by the “developed” world and are now seeing further damage due to climate change. We, the developed nations, have caused most of their problems to serve our own desires for material wealth and now we have the audacity to pretend that they really just need us to teach them how to live in their own countries? 

    No, they need reparations for the damage we have caused, and lots of it. 
    That is very true and worth considering.  How many of us have taken old computers and cell phones to e-waste drop offs?  We can't fool ourselves and believe all of our electronics get recycled in a nice clean, tidy manner. 
    Photo of discarded electronics poisoning African children:
    Discarded Electronics Are Poisoning African Children

    I'm still for helping third world countries find ways to be more self-sufficient (this is not just a Republican agenda), lower population, and improve education, but we do owe for some of this.

    OK, back to my coffee (yes, another first world luxury I have yet to give up.  :frowning:)





    I figured that's what $6B would be used for, at least partly. Education (which ultimately leads to a reduction in reproduction rates, especially when it comes to educating women), clean water sources, improved farming infrastructure, etc. I don't think the UN would actually just spend $6B on groceries for poor nations!
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata

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