Tragic event in which Alec Baldwin 'discharged' prop gun that left cinematographer dead.

brianlux · October 2021

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Merkin Baller said:

Oh dear

Wow. Is this a real tweet?

The bigger question is, Why would someone (where ever this was first put up) post this old tweet at a time like this?

gotta own the libs....

Well in fairness, it was a pretty douchey tweet by Baldwin, so can't be surprised someone would throw it back in his face.

I agree with this. If you're going to go out there and celebrate something outrageous like that to score political points, you are always subject to in coming back to haunt you.

Maybe now he would have a bit more compassion for what happened to Cheney.

different circumstances completely.

but still it was classless

Exactly.

Meltdown99 · October 2021

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New details: Alec Baldwin fired a live lead projectile on Rust film set, sheriff says

tempo_n_groove · October 2021

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New details: Alec Baldwin fired a live lead projectile on Rust film set, sheriff says

He fired an actual bullet. No shit Sherriff. We knew that already...

tempo_n_groove · November 2021

I saw Baldwin speak over the weekend. He appears really distraught. The way he was talking is not like him. This man is going to go through hell some more unfortunately...

Meltdown99 · November 2021

Pleaseeeeee...
He is going through nothing compared to the family of the ladies' family he shot...

Who the fuck teaches gun safety to some are dumb as dog shit...

mickeyrat · November 2021

wel, he IS going to live with the fact a gun, in his hand, discharged killing one and wounding another.

thats not nothing.

F Me In The Brain · November 2021

Yeah, this must be horrible for him. Reports indicate he was told the gun was clean/safe. I am not a fan of his behavior, in general, but this is an awful thing to live with.

Just because it doesn't stack up next to the family of this women who needlessly died does not lessen what he now gets to carry. Not like he murdered her or something.

PJPOWER · November 2021

mickeyrat said:

wel, he IS going to live with the fact a gun, in his hand, discharged killing one and wounding another.

thats not nothing.

And the fact that there are things he could have done to prevent it…:
https://www.nssf.org/safety/rules-firearms-safety/

brianlux · November 2021

Doesn't it all go back to WTF was there a live round on the set in the first place?

mickeyrat · November 2021

PJPOWER said:

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mickeyrat said:

wel, he IS going to live with the fact a gun, in his hand, discharged killing one and wounding another.

thats not nothing.

And the fact that there are things he could have done to prevent it…:
https://www.nssf.org/safety/rules-firearms-safety/

When I was in boot camp for usn, we had a day at a range. as I recall our basics were muzzle pointed downrange, finger off trigger unless positioned to fire. jammed? raise your hand keeping weapon downrange. there was no take mag out and check.

that was a controlled situation.

a movie set is less so.....

either way you trust those you are told to.

no need to respond.

PJPOWER · November 2021

mickeyrat said:

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PJPOWER said:

mickeyrat said:

wel, he IS going to live with the fact a gun, in his hand, discharged killing one and wounding another.

thats not nothing.

And the fact that there are things he could have done to prevent it…:
https://www.nssf.org/safety/rules-firearms-safety/

When I was in boot camp for usn, we had a day at a range. as I recall our basics were muzzle pointed downrange, finger off trigger unless positioned to fire. jammed? raise your hand keeping weapon downrange. there was no take mag out and check.

that was a controlled situation.

a movie set is less so.....

either way you trust those you are told to.

no need to respond.

I know you are not looking for a response, but you mentioned two things that would have prevented this death. What would your range instructor have done if you crossed him with the muzzle? And the gun on set was a revolver, so no mags to check…An easy glance could tell a person whether or not it was loaded and with what. Alec could have just as easily shot himself in the nuts.

mickeyrat · November 2021

PJPOWER said:

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mickeyat said:

PJPOWER said:

mickeyrat said:

wel, he IS going to live with the fact a gun, in his hand, discharged killing one and wounding another.

thats not nothing.

And the fact that there are things he could have done to prevent it…:
https://www.nssf.org/safety/rules-firearms-safety/

When I was in boot camp for usn, we had a day at a range. as I recall our basics were muzzle pointed downrange, finger off trigger unless positioned to fire. jammed? raise your hand keeping weapon downrange. there was no take mag out and check.

that was a controlled situation.

a movie set is less so.....

either way you trust those you are told to.

no need to respond.

I know you are not looking for a response, but you mentioned two things that would have prevented this death. What would your range instructor have done if you crossed him with the muzzle? And the gun on set was a revolver, so no mags to check…An easy glance could tell a person whether or not it was loaded and with what. Alec could have just as easily shot himself in the nuts.

a movie set is not a range. its expected that other actors or crew behind the camera will be "down range" for the scene to work as written.

as for it being a revolver, I might expect its probable but certainly possible faked lead of some sort might have been used for appearances sake. waiting for whatever report will be released

finally, gun safety courses seem to be an afterthought in most states laws. lets thank the political arm of the nra for that

PJPOWER · November 2021

mickeyrat said:

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PJPOWER said:

mickeyat said:

PJPOWER said:

mickeyrat said:

wel, he IS going to live with the fact a gun, in his hand, discharged killing one and wounding another.

thats not nothing.

And the fact that there are things he could have done to prevent it…:
https://www.nssf.org/safety/rules-firearms-safety/

When I was in boot camp for usn, we had a day at a range. as I recall our basics were muzzle pointed downrange, finger off trigger unless positioned to fire. jammed? raise your hand keeping weapon downrange. there was no take mag out and check.

that was a controlled situation.

a movie set is less so.....

either way you trust those you are told to.

no need to respond.

I know you are not looking for a response, but you mentioned two things that would have prevented this death. What would your range instructor have done if you crossed him with the muzzle? And the gun on set was a revolver, so no mags to check…An easy glance could tell a person whether or not it was loaded and with what. Alec could have just as easily shot himself in the nuts.

a movie set is not a range. its expected that other actors or crew behind the camera will be "down range" for the scene to work as written.

as for it being a revolver, I might expect its probable but certainly possible faked lead of some sort might have been used for appearances sake. waiting for whatever report will be released

finally, gun safety courses seem to be an afterthought in most states laws. lets thank the political arm of the nra for that

I agree with you on pretty much everything there except I have never seen a clause to the safety codes naming actors specifically “down range” safer than trained military professionals when it comes to real firearms…There is a reason you should “never” do certain things or pretend they are not still dangerous things.

mickeyrat · November 2021

PJPOWER said:

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mickeyrat said:

PJPOWER said:

mickeyat said:

PJPOWER said:

mickeyrat said:

wel, he IS going to live with the fact a gun, in his hand, discharged killing one and wounding another.

thats not nothing.

And the fact that there are things he could have done to prevent it…:
https://www.nssf.org/safety/rules-firearms-safety/

When I was in boot camp for usn, we had a day at a range. as I recall our basics were muzzle pointed downrange, finger off trigger unless positioned to fire. jammed? raise your hand keeping weapon downrange. there was no take mag out and check.

that was a controlled situation.

a movie set is less so.....

either way you trust those you are told to.

no need to respond.

I know you are not looking for a response, but you mentioned two things that would have prevented this death. What would your range instructor have done if you crossed him with the muzzle? And the gun on set was a revolver, so no mags to check…An easy glance could tell a person whether or not it was loaded and with what. Alec could have just as easily shot himself in the nuts.

a movie set is not a range. its expected that other actors or crew behind the camera will be "down range" for the scene to work as written.

as for it being a revolver, I might expect its probable but certainly possible faked lead of some sort might have been used for appearances sake. waiting for whatever report will be released

finally, gun safety courses seem to be an afterthought in most states laws. lets thank the political arm of the nra for that

I agree with you on pretty much everything there except I have never seen a clause to the safety codes naming actors specifically “down range” safer than trained military professionals when it comes to real firearms…There is a reason you should “never” do certain things or pretend they are not still dangerous things.

got it. no more movied or tv shows depicting gun use

mickeyrat · November 2021

care to keep kicking or is the horse dead yet.

mace1229 · November 2021

I’ll kick. I never saw him say movies shouldn’t depict guns. Just that there are some rules that should always be followed, or things you should never do. One thing you should never do is assume a gun is unloaded. It sounds like several people did that. Alec, the AD, and probably 1 or 2 more assumed the gun was checked and unloaded. It wasn’t. Never assume it’s unloaded.

brianlux · November 2021

Since when are actors supposed to be fire arms experts. They're actors. And again, why was there a live round in that gun in the first place? Sure seems suspicious to me- like maybe someone was being set up?
And OK, if not that, then why the hell a live round on a movie set?

PJPOWER · November 2021

brianlux said:

Since when are actors supposed to be fire arms experts. They're actors. And again, why was there a live round in that gun in the first place? Sure seems suspicious to me- like maybe someone was being set up?
And OK, if not that, then why the hell a live round on a movie set?

Since they made the decision to use real firearms…It does not really take an “expert” to have some basic knowledge of firearm safety. They do not have some kind of special shield because they are actors. Maybe they should stick to rubber gun if they are unwilling (as professionals) to learn some basic safety that could probably be learned in less than an hour.

F Me In The Brain · November 2021

PJPOWER said:

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brianlux said:

Since when are actors supposed to be fire arms experts. They're actors. And again, why was there a live round in that gun in the first place? Sure seems suspicious to me- like maybe someone was being set up?
And OK, if not that, then why the hell a live round on a movie set?

Since they made the decision to use real firearms…It does not really take an “expert” to have some basic knowledge of firearm safety. They do not have some kind of special shield because they are actors. Maybe they should stick to rubber gun if they are unwilling (as professionals) to learn some basic safety that could probably be learned in less than an hour.

How many movie sets where they used firearms have you been present on?

How many training sessions?

PJPOWER · November 2021

mickeyrat said:

care to keep kicking or is the horse dead yet.

Sorry, what I meant to say was “thoughts and prayers”.

Tragic event in which Alec Baldwin 'discharged' prop gun that left cinematographer dead.

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