Legends of the Ancient Inbox: The 2003 Tour Announcement

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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,967
    The email said:
    "Seat selection will be based upon seniority in the club; meaning the longer you have been in the club, the closer your seats will be to the front of the stage. The Ten Club reserves the "best seats in the house" for 10c members. These seats will be on the floor from the front row, extending back. You will not be notified of your seat selection until the day of the show, when you receive your tickets. Please note, seat selection will be effected by the popularity of the show. Meaning, if you choose to attend a show in a bigger city, your seat selection may not be as close as expected. But if you choose a city that is not as popular, your chances for getting seats closer to the stage are greater."


    Something must have changed, right? I thought it went to block seating...everyone was pre-assigned to a block and the earlier someone picked up their tickets, the better in the block they were.

    Correct.  The earlier you arrived, the better your seats were.  Hence, we arrived at Uniondale at 10am.  And Holmdel too.  Also saw both MSG shows and Philly.  They also filled the floor section all the way to the back first before they moved to the wings.  So there were a lot of people pissed off that they were at the back of the floor while people with worse fan club numbers were a couple rows off the stage on the sides. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,019
    Sucks that Cleveland became such a forgotten about stop for the band.  

    I met a guy at FF show last night with a stickman tattoo on his arm and he said 

    “PJ used to be my favorite band, but they haven’t been here since 2010.  And that’s fine, but if you’re gonna get inducted into the Rock Hall and you still forget about Cleveland, then f*** you”
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    That was such an awesome tour. Went to 6 shows and had a blast.
    I LOVE MUSIC.
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,325
    Go Animal said:
    I'd be remiss if I didn't bring up Benaroya. If I could go back, I would get in on the pre-sale, buy a 1-way to Seattle, rent from National, and watch history be made (screw the vinyl, lol).
    Then drive to Portland for a day, then take my time down the coast to Mountain View for Bridge School Benefit 10/25 & 10/26, and the over to Santa Barbara on 10/28, then SBA to Vegas to Orlando the next day.
    Worth every penny of interest.
    Paid $300 for a ticket 2nd row balcony dead center - worth every penny. Walked up to the venue just as most of the band drive in with their personal vehicles. Had a random unique moment well after the show with Matt behind the wheel of his vehicle. And hit up some tasty sashimi at a local spot found randomly. Worth every penny.



    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,967
    Sucks that Cleveland became such a forgotten about stop for the band.  

    I met a guy at FF show last night with a stickman tattoo on his arm and he said 

    “PJ used to be my favorite band, but they haven’t been here since 2010.  And that’s fine, but if you’re gonna get inducted into the Rock Hall and you still forget about Cleveland, then f*** you”
    I’m bummed they moved the RnR hall of fame show back to Cleveland.  I had a blast seeing PJ inducted in Brooklyn and would love to go again. It was a pretty cool experience. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,325
    on2legs said:
    Sucks that Cleveland became such a forgotten about stop for the band.  

    I met a guy at FF show last night with a stickman tattoo on his arm and he said 

    “PJ used to be my favorite band, but they haven’t been here since 2010.  And that’s fine, but if you’re gonna get inducted into the Rock Hall and you still forget about Cleveland, then f*** you”
    I’m bummed they moved the RnR hall of fame show back to Cleveland.  I had a blast seeing PJ inducted in Brooklyn and would love to go again. It was a pretty cool experience. 
    Don’t they alternate years?
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,967
    100 Pacer said:
    on2legs said:
    Sucks that Cleveland became such a forgotten about stop for the band.  

    I met a guy at FF show last night with a stickman tattoo on his arm and he said 

    “PJ used to be my favorite band, but they haven’t been here since 2010.  And that’s fine, but if you’re gonna get inducted into the Rock Hall and you still forget about Cleveland, then f*** you”
    I’m bummed they moved the RnR hall of fame show back to Cleveland.  I had a blast seeing PJ inducted in Brooklyn and would love to go again. It was a pretty cool experience. 
    Don’t they alternate years?
    Do they!!! I had no idea.  I thought it was moved back there permanently.  Eager to see it if it comes back to the east coast.  =)
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • fall by the wayside
    fall by the wayside Jericho, VT Posts: 759
    What a great memory. I was a senior in college and this was the first time I caught multiple shows in a tour. Hit up Albany, Montreal, and Mansfield I. A kind fan offered me his extra to Mansfield III but I turned it down due to being broke as hell. Oops. There was such an air of unpredictability with them really mixing up the set lists and regularly defying venue curfews. Take me back please.
    9/13/98, 10/4/00, 4/29/03, 6/29/03, 7/2/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 9/15/05, 9/16/05, 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 5/15/10, 9/11/11, 9/12/11, 10/19/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 10/25/13, 10/27/13, 9/26/15, 4/28/16, 4/29/16, 8/5/16, 8/7/16, 8/13/18, 9/2/18, 9/4/18, 9/26/21, 9/1/22, 9/2/22, 9/14/22, 9/18/23, 9/19/23, 9/7/24, 9/9/24, 9/12/24, 9/15/24, 9/17/24, 5/16/25, 5/18/25
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,091
    both detroit shows and cleveland...What a great year! 
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • wbutler29
    wbutler29 Posts: 970
    Last tour they played Houston if Im not mistaken.
  • Foriginal Sin
    Foriginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,876
    The email said:
    "Seat selection will be based upon seniority in the club; meaning the longer you have been in the club, the closer your seats will be to the front of the stage. The Ten Club reserves the "best seats in the house" for 10c members. These seats will be on the floor from the front row, extending back. You will not be notified of your seat selection until the day of the show, when you receive your tickets. Please note, seat selection will be effected by the popularity of the show. Meaning, if you choose to attend a show in a bigger city, your seat selection may not be as close as expected. But if you choose a city that is not as popular, your chances for getting seats closer to the stage are greater."


    Something must have changed, right? I thought it went to block seating...everyone was pre-assigned to a block and the earlier someone picked up their tickets, the better in the block they were.

    I don’t know exactly how the blocks worked but I the person directly behind me picking up tickets was 1 seat closer to the stage than I was even though I got there first. I think they just handed out rows, possible backwards on accident 
    Chicago 6/29/98, Alpine Valley(EV) 6/13/99, Alpine Valley 10/08/00, Chicago 10/09/00, Phoenix 10/20/00, Orlando 4/12/03, Tampa 4/13/03, San Diego 6/05/03, Vegas 6/06/03, Phoenix 6/07/03, Chicago 6/18/03, Alpine Valley 6/21/03, Orlando 10/08/04, D.C. 10/11/04, Chicago 5/16/06, Chicago 5/17/06, LA 7/12/08, Chicago 8/23/09, Chicago 8/24/09, LA 10/07/09, San Diego 10/09/09 (Front Row Center, Finally), Phoenix(EV) 11/4/11, Wrigley 7/19/13, Phoenix 11/19/13, Denver 10/22/14, Wrigley 8/20/16, Wrigley 8/22/16
  • Foriginal Sin
    Foriginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,876
    Sucks that Cleveland became such a forgotten about stop for the band.  

    I met a guy at FF show last night with a stickman tattoo on his arm and he said 

    “PJ used to be my favorite band, but they haven’t been here since 2010.  And that’s fine, but if you’re gonna get inducted into the Rock Hall and you still forget about Cleveland, then f*** you”
    Cleveland? They’ve played Phoenix once in 18 years. 5th largest city in the U.S. 
    Chicago 6/29/98, Alpine Valley(EV) 6/13/99, Alpine Valley 10/08/00, Chicago 10/09/00, Phoenix 10/20/00, Orlando 4/12/03, Tampa 4/13/03, San Diego 6/05/03, Vegas 6/06/03, Phoenix 6/07/03, Chicago 6/18/03, Alpine Valley 6/21/03, Orlando 10/08/04, D.C. 10/11/04, Chicago 5/16/06, Chicago 5/17/06, LA 7/12/08, Chicago 8/23/09, Chicago 8/24/09, LA 10/07/09, San Diego 10/09/09 (Front Row Center, Finally), Phoenix(EV) 11/4/11, Wrigley 7/19/13, Phoenix 11/19/13, Denver 10/22/14, Wrigley 8/20/16, Wrigley 8/22/16
  • darthvedder
    darthvedder Posts: 2,672
    edited October 2021
    The email said:
    "Seat selection will be based upon seniority in the club; meaning the longer you have been in the club, the closer your seats will be to the front of the stage. The Ten Club reserves the "best seats in the house" for 10c members. These seats will be on the floor from the front row, extending back. You will not be notified of your seat selection until the day of the show, when you receive your tickets. Please note, seat selection will be effected by the popularity of the show. Meaning, if you choose to attend a show in a bigger city, your seat selection may not be as close as expected. But if you choose a city that is not as popular, your chances for getting seats closer to the stage are greater."


    Something must have changed, right? I thought it went to block seating...everyone was pre-assigned to a block and the earlier someone picked up their tickets, the better in the block they were.

    I don’t know exactly how the blocks worked but I the person directly behind me picking up tickets was 1 seat closer to the stage than I was even though I got there first. I think they just handed out rows, possible backwards on accident 

    The block seating was the worst. Thank goodness they've never repeated that awful experience. There was a massive screw up in line management at the Irvine show, allowing a large portion of the line to cut in front of others who had been waiting longer.
    Post edited by darthvedder on
  • 2000 was block seating. It 100% mattered when you got their and picked up your tickets. Your section was the same but row was very different. For example at Jones Beach, night 1, my friend and I got there early and picked up tickets and we were row 1 (I forget the section). The next night I went with my girlfriend at the time, and we didn’t pick up tickets until right before sonic youth. I was same section but row 26. 
    2003 was the switch to predetermined seats. And yes, at MSG II I was back of the floor while higher numbers were wings close. It was a great show but disappointing seats for sure.
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,967
    edited October 2021
    2000 was block seating. It 100% mattered when you got their and picked up your tickets. Your section was the same but row was very different. For example at Jones Beach, night 1, my friend and I got there early and picked up tickets and we were row 1 (I forget the section). The next night I went with my girlfriend at the time, and we didn’t pick up tickets until right before sonic youth. I was same section but row 26. 
    2003 was the switch to predetermined seats. And yes, at MSG II I was back of the floor while higher numbers were wings close. It was a great show but disappointing seats for sure.
    My recollection…. The 2000 tour was still 1 show per member.  I saw 8 shows that tour and I got one pair through my membership and the rest I bought through Ticketmaster.  

    In 2003 they allowed you to buy tickets to multiple shows.  The tickets were block seating and the earlier you arrived the better pair of tickets they handed you within your section.  
    Post edited by on2legs on
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • ST66483
    ST66483 Posts: 888
    Ahhh the days of submitting index cards and money orders and then waiting to see if you got tickets.  

    My recollection was that 2003 was the first multi show per member block seating system as well.  Had my best 10c seats that year.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,892
    2000 was block seating. It 100% mattered when you got their and picked up your tickets. Your section was the same but row was very different. For example at Jones Beach, night 1, my friend and I got there early and picked up tickets and we were row 1 (I forget the section). The next night I went with my girlfriend at the time, and we didn’t pick up tickets until right before sonic youth. I was same section but row 26. 
    2003 was the switch to predetermined seats. And yes, at MSG II I was back of the floor while higher numbers were wings close. It was a great show but disappointing seats for sure.
    2003 was definitely still block seating. MSG may have been an exception, but rest of tour was till blocks.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • CantKeepmedown
    CantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,119
    on2legs said:
    2000 was block seating. It 100% mattered when you got their and picked up your tickets. Your section was the same but row was very different. For example at Jones Beach, night 1, my friend and I got there early and picked up tickets and we were row 1 (I forget the section). The next night I went with my girlfriend at the time, and we didn’t pick up tickets until right before sonic youth. I was same section but row 26. 
    2003 was the switch to predetermined seats. And yes, at MSG II I was back of the floor while higher numbers were wings close. It was a great show but disappointing seats for sure.
    My recollection…. The 2000 tour was still 1 show per member.  I saw 8 shows that tour and I got one pair through my membership and the rest I bought through Ticketmaster.  

    In 2003 they allowed you to buy tickets to multiple shows.  The tickets were block seating and the earlier you arrived the better pair of tickets they handed you within your section.  
    Correct. I did 8 shows as well and remember trying to strategize about which show to use it for (ended up going with Saratoga).  

    Loved this 2003 tour. 7 shows in total (HOB Orlando, Albany, all 3 Great Woods and both MSG.) Used 10C for first Greatwoods whos and first MSG show. Wanted to sit with friends in Albany and buddy won tix to HOB.   
  • CopperTom
    CopperTom Posts: 3,149
    If they sent this out today, everyone would think it's a scam.  Send a money order?!  Yeah right.
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,967
    on2legs said:
    2000 was block seating. It 100% mattered when you got their and picked up your tickets. Your section was the same but row was very different. For example at Jones Beach, night 1, my friend and I got there early and picked up tickets and we were row 1 (I forget the section). The next night I went with my girlfriend at the time, and we didn’t pick up tickets until right before sonic youth. I was same section but row 26. 
    2003 was the switch to predetermined seats. And yes, at MSG II I was back of the floor while higher numbers were wings close. It was a great show but disappointing seats for sure.
    My recollection…. The 2000 tour was still 1 show per member.  I saw 8 shows that tour and I got one pair through my membership and the rest I bought through Ticketmaster.  

    In 2003 they allowed you to buy tickets to multiple shows.  The tickets were block seating and the earlier you arrived the better pair of tickets they handed you within your section.  
    Correct. I did 8 shows as well and remember trying to strategize about which show to use it for (ended up going with Saratoga).  

    Loved this 2003 tour. 7 shows in total (HOB Orlando, Albany, all 3 Great Woods and both MSG.) Used 10C for first Greatwoods whos and first MSG show. Wanted to sit with friends in Albany and buddy won tix to HOB.   
    I was not sure if I remembered it right.  👍🏻

    My wife was pregnant with our first in 2003 so I felt fortunate I made it to 5 shows that tour.  Did Philly>Uniondale>MSG>MSG>Holmdel.  It was cool that the tour hit the East Coast in the Spring and then came back again in the Summer.  Those were the days =)


    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh