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  • Jumb0
    Jumb0 Posts: 910
    edited October 2021
    mrussel1 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    cp3iverson said:
    Brady just gave the guy a Bitcoin so that’s a nice start. 

    I’d still rather have 500k but like you guys said it’s a tough spot reputation wise :lol:
    Reputation?  What reputation?  Take the money.  No one is going to remember this after a few weeks.  What was the guys name that caught the Bonds ball?  McGwire ball?  Jeter 3000 hit/HR ball?

    No one will give a shit...
    Is Tom Brady's 600th TD really worth a half million?  Unsigned?  I don't believe that.  Is the sports market that out of whack?


    I think they are basing it off of Brady's 1st TD ball going for $450k. People will pay absurd amounts of money for sports memorabilia. 
    Seems the Bucs heard all the talk and came back and gave him more.  
    Post edited by Jumb0 on
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mrussel1 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    cp3iverson said:
    Brady just gave the guy a Bitcoin so that’s a nice start. 

    I’d still rather have 500k but like you guys said it’s a tough spot reputation wise :lol:
    Reputation?  What reputation?  Take the money.  No one is going to remember this after a few weeks.  What was the guys name that caught the Bonds ball?  McGwire ball?  Jeter 3000 hit/HR ball?

    No one will give a shit...
    Is Tom Brady's 600th TD really worth a half million?  Unsigned?  I don't believe that.  Is the sports market that out of whack?
    1 million something for the McGwire ball.

    If you have a historical significance or milestone attached to an item whether it be game worn or used the value increases exponentially.

    Brady will go down as the best QB so that ball is cheap at 500K.
    I guess I don't see football records in the same light as baseball.  Baseball is such a stat driven sport and has such a long history, that those numbers are forever ingrained; Williams hitting .400, 56 game hit streak, 63 home runs, etc.  Football stats never seemed nearly as historical.  Think of the build up every night when McGwire was chasing, or Bonds.  It was the sports headline.  Evans didn't have any idea about 600. I didn't either. 
  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Broncos would like a word with the other teams about QB's...

    Since Manning it has been a disaster...
    Yes!  That' why you don't let a QB like Mahomes in his prime go for the next 10 years!!

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,474
    Glorified KC said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Broncos would like a word with the other teams about QB's...

    Since Manning it has been a disaster...
    Yes!  That' why you don't let a QB like Mahomes in his prime go for the next 10 years!!

    Again... No one ever said to let him go.  No where was that said.  Read my response.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,474
    mrussel1 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mrussel1 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    cp3iverson said:
    Brady just gave the guy a Bitcoin so that’s a nice start. 

    I’d still rather have 500k but like you guys said it’s a tough spot reputation wise :lol:
    Reputation?  What reputation?  Take the money.  No one is going to remember this after a few weeks.  What was the guys name that caught the Bonds ball?  McGwire ball?  Jeter 3000 hit/HR ball?

    No one will give a shit...
    Is Tom Brady's 600th TD really worth a half million?  Unsigned?  I don't believe that.  Is the sports market that out of whack?
    1 million something for the McGwire ball.

    If you have a historical significance or milestone attached to an item whether it be game worn or used the value increases exponentially.

    Brady will go down as the best QB so that ball is cheap at 500K.
    I guess I don't see football records in the same light as baseball.  Baseball is such a stat driven sport and has such a long history, that those numbers are forever ingrained; Williams hitting .400, 56 game hit streak, 63 home runs, etc.  Football stats never seemed nearly as historical.  Think of the build up every night when McGwire was chasing, or Bonds.  It was the sports headline.  Evans didn't have any idea about 600. I didn't either. 
    Williams hit 406, 60 and 61 are Ruth and Maris' HR total.  i think Sosa hit 63 his 2nd year after doing 66.

    But yes I understand that.  Baseball is all numbers.  Football and 600 though?  That's an easy one.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,540
    Glorified KC said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Broncos would like a word with the other teams about QB's...

    Since Manning it has been a disaster...
    Yes!  That' why you don't let a QB like Mahomes in his prime go for the next 10 years!!

    Haha, he's arguing against his own point.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,474
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Glorified KC said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Broncos would like a word with the other teams about QB's...

    Since Manning it has been a disaster...
    Yes!  That' why you don't let a QB like Mahomes in his prime go for the next 10 years!!

    Haha, he's arguing against his own point.
    How so?

    I'm wondering of people read everything on here or just pick the older points so they look smart?
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,474
    I'll say this.  The window for Mahomes and the Chiefs is now closed until the GM does some internal fixes.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,540
    I've read your response(s) multiple times, nothing said about GMs. Just that Mahomes has screwed the team. Not trying to look smart, and are older posts considered old when they're from a day ago?
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,320
    Geno Smith has a gig and Kaepernick does not.

    Ridiculous.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mrussel1 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    cp3iverson said:
    Brady just gave the guy a Bitcoin so that’s a nice start. 

    I’d still rather have 500k but like you guys said it’s a tough spot reputation wise :lol:
    Reputation?  What reputation?  Take the money.  No one is going to remember this after a few weeks.  What was the guys name that caught the Bonds ball?  McGwire ball?  Jeter 3000 hit/HR ball?

    No one will give a shit...
    Is Tom Brady's 600th TD really worth a half million?  Unsigned?  I don't believe that.  Is the sports market that out of whack?
    I would also think you’d need a letter of authenticity from Tampa and the NFL…


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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,474
    edited October 2021
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    No team with a franchise QB - one that has won a Super Bowl and an MVP - doesn't sign and/or extend and/or take up the largest portion of their salaries. How is this even a conversation? The team doesn't suffer. The team benefits from having a top-3/5 QB, which is rightly paid as such as it's the most important position in the game. They already benefitted by getting a "discount" by winning a SB, and going to an additional SB, while on his rookie deal. Seriously, what are we even talking about here?
    The team is doing great now aren't they?

    Of course you sign your QB long term.  It's your plan after that really matters.

    What we are talking about that none of you see is the part of the GM that screwed up.  You can have the greatest QB in the world but without the pieces around him that means squat.  That is exactly what is happening now.

    I also mentioned that the SB's were on his rookie deal and now that he is paid unless management  is smarter w their money the team is going nowhere.
    Highlighted it for you.

    EDIT: It was at 735 this morning...
    Post edited by tempo_n_groove on
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,540
    Yes, I saw you walk back what you meant from yesterday to this morning.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,474
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    Yes, I saw you walk back what you meant from yesterday to this morning.
    No, just explaining my point further since people were putting words in my mouth hence the GM comment, and that you said I didn't make and then said I'm "walking back".

    Never did I say it was a mistake to sign him.  Him getting paid made the rest of the team suffer.  Yes, that is what is going on and I blame the GM for it.

    Moving on now...  The window for Mahomes and the SB are done for a few years now.


  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    Wobbie said:
    Geno Smith has a gig and Kaepernick does not.

    Ridiculous.
    Those racist owners....
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    Geno Smith has a gig and Kaepernick does not.

    Ridiculous.
    Those racist owners....
    It's all because Trump decided to use him as a wedge to divide us even further apart. 
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  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I'll say this.  The window for Mahomes and the Chiefs is now closed until the GM does some internal fixes.
    I won't disagree with you there.  So what is your point then on Mahomes contract? 

    I wish I was a sacrifice, but somehow still lived on.
  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    tempo_n_groove said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    No team with a franchise QB - one that has won a Super Bowl and an MVP - doesn't sign and/or extend and/or take up the largest portion of their salaries. How is this even a conversation? The team doesn't suffer. The team benefits from having a top-3/5 QB, which is rightly paid as such as it's the most important position in the game. They already benefitted by getting a "discount" by winning a SB, and going to an additional SB, while on his rookie deal. Seriously, what are we even talking about here?
    The team is doing great now aren't they?

    Of course you sign your QB long term.  It's your plan after that really matters.

    What we are talking about that none of you see is the part of the GM that screwed up.  You can have the greatest QB in the world but without the pieces around him that means squat.  That is exactly what is happening now.

    I also mentioned that the SB's were on his rookie deal and now that he is paid unless management  is smarter w their money the team is going nowhere.
    Highlighted it for you.

    EDIT: It was at 735 this morning...
    What would you have done if you were the GM and Mahomes contract needed to be extended then?

    I wish I was a sacrifice, but somehow still lived on.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,474
    Glorified KC said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I'll say this.  The window for Mahomes and the Chiefs is now closed until the GM does some internal fixes.
    I won't disagree with you there.  So what is your point then on Mahomes contract? 

    Glorified KC said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    No team with a franchise QB - one that has won a Super Bowl and an MVP - doesn't sign and/or extend and/or take up the largest portion of their salaries. How is this even a conversation? The team doesn't suffer. The team benefits from having a top-3/5 QB, which is rightly paid as such as it's the most important position in the game. They already benefitted by getting a "discount" by winning a SB, and going to an additional SB, while on his rookie deal. Seriously, what are we even talking about here?
    The team is doing great now aren't they?

    Of course you sign your QB long term.  It's your plan after that really matters.

    What we are talking about that none of you see is the part of the GM that screwed up.  You can have the greatest QB in the world but without the pieces around him that means squat.  That is exactly what is happening now.

    I also mentioned that the SB's were on his rookie deal and now that he is paid unless management  is smarter w their money the team is going nowhere.
    Highlighted it for you.

    EDIT: It was at 735 this morning...
    What would you have done if you were the GM and Mahomes contract needed to be extended then?

    Mahomes needed to get paid.  I agree.  What screwed the team was how the GM used the rest of the cap.  That was my problem.

    You can't keep everybody but certain pieces they did hold and didn't spend wisely on the rest.  The O-line isn't panning out and the defense is anemic.

    It's a shame too.  I was very much enjoying the numbers Mahomes was putting up.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Glorified KC said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I'll say this.  The window for Mahomes and the Chiefs is now closed until the GM does some internal fixes.
    I won't disagree with you there.  So what is your point then on Mahomes contract? 

    Glorified KC said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Jearlpam0925 said:
    No team with a franchise QB - one that has won a Super Bowl and an MVP - doesn't sign and/or extend and/or take up the largest portion of their salaries. How is this even a conversation? The team doesn't suffer. The team benefits from having a top-3/5 QB, which is rightly paid as such as it's the most important position in the game. They already benefitted by getting a "discount" by winning a SB, and going to an additional SB, while on his rookie deal. Seriously, what are we even talking about here?
    The team is doing great now aren't they?

    Of course you sign your QB long term.  It's your plan after that really matters.

    What we are talking about that none of you see is the part of the GM that screwed up.  You can have the greatest QB in the world but without the pieces around him that means squat.  That is exactly what is happening now.

    I also mentioned that the SB's were on his rookie deal and now that he is paid unless management  is smarter w their money the team is going nowhere.
    Highlighted it for you.

    EDIT: It was at 735 this morning...
    What would you have done if you were the GM and Mahomes contract needed to be extended then?

    Mahomes needed to get paid.  I agree.  What screwed the team was how the GM used the rest of the cap.  That was my problem.

    You can't keep everybody but certain pieces they did hold and didn't spend wisely on the rest.  The O-line isn't panning out and the defense is anemic.

    It's a shame too.  I was very much enjoying the numbers Mahomes was putting up.
    I thought I read 42 posts back that Glorified KC's criticism on the salary situation was about Frank Clark.  

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