Anyone miss the days when rock music was the dominant music genre and rock bands ruled the earth?

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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Isn’t this the poster that was consistently slamming people for listening to dinosaur music/being out of touch with a strong holier than thou attitude regarding fans of a rock band favoring other rock music?
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,731
    I believe so
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    DewieCox said:
    Isn’t this the poster that was consistently slamming people for listening to dinosaur music/being out of touch with a strong holier than thou attitude regarding fans of a rock band favoring other rock music?

    I'm either really tired or stupid.  I'm not sure what you are saying here Dewie.

    In any case, anyone who slams people for listening to Dinosaur music should give this a try ( :wink: )

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,731
    OP used to generally call out the forum, saying people were too caught up in the music of the past and were ignoring great music happening now. 

    I mean, he's not wrong, but its sorta funny he made this thread.
  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    Never bothers me.  

    People of this background generally hated 97-2002 right?   For rock radio yeah it sucked, but I remember loving Neutral Milk Hotel, Jimmy Eat World, Sunny Day Real Estate, the Shins, etc.  So I love that era of music. 

    the good stuff always comes through.  Even in pop.  I think Olivia Rodrigo is horrid but we’ve loved Billie Eilish from the beginning.  Rock is an afterthought at festivals now but so what?  ACL and Coachella are no longer put together for us.  

    There is always good music coming out. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    cp3iverson said:
    Never bothers me.  

    People of this background generally hated 97-2002 right?   For rock radio yeah it sucked, but I remember loving Neutral Milk Hotel, Jimmy Eat World, Sunny Day Real Estate, the Shins, etc.  So I love that era of music. 

    the good stuff always comes through.  Even in pop.  I think Olivia Rodrigo is horrid but we’ve loved Billie Eilish from the beginning.  Rock is an afterthought at festivals now but so what?  ACL and Coachella are no longer put together for us.  

    There is always good music coming out. 

    Jimmy Eat World... never followed them much but I should go back to them again.  They were great on Letterman.  Bass player dude speared his amp righteously with that guitar! :lol:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    cp3iverson said:
    Never bothers me.  

    People of this background generally hated 97-2002 right?   For rock radio yeah it sucked, but I remember loving Neutral Milk Hotel, Jimmy Eat World, Sunny Day Real Estate, the Shins, etc.  So I love that era of music. 

    the good stuff always comes through.  Even in pop.  I think Olivia Rodrigo is horrid but we’ve loved Billie Eilish from the beginning.  Rock is an afterthought at festivals now but so what?  ACL and Coachella are no longer put together for us.  

    There is always good music coming out. 
    Sunny Day Real Estate was the shit. 
  • musicismylife78
    musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    Tim Simmons said:
    OP used to generally call out the forum, saying people were too caught up in the music of the past and were ignoring great music happening now. 

    I mean, he's not wrong, but its sorta funny he made this thread.
    DewieCox said:
    Isn’t this the poster that was consistently slamming people for listening to dinosaur music/being out of touch with a strong holier than thou attitude regarding fans of a rock band favoring other rock music?
    To be fair I havent posted much on the forum since 2013 or so, and was heavily posting more so in 2003-2008 or so.  I joined in 2003, Tim looks like you joined during Yield days, so you've beat me on that!  
    But a lot has changed in my life and in the world since 2013, or 2008 or 2003.  I would guess you both have changed too.  I'd hope so at least. My other thread about Ed softening in his anger towards mainstream pop music fits as well.  In 1993, would Ed have been friends with the pop stars of the day and be attending pop shows (even if a large part is his kids).  Him going to the 1995 equivalent of One Direction/Harry Styles, Lana and Billie Eilish, and seeming to have a genuine respect for their craft, Id say thats a million years from the Ed we of the OG 90's era PJ fandom grew up with.  
    Have you changed, haha?  I'd sure hope you arent the same person you were in 1998!  
  • musicismylife78
    musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    But in terms of the statement though, I dont remember being extremely pro new music and calling old music dinosaur music.  I actually remember doing the exact opposite.  I remember in the W days, and being pissed that bands weren't politic and speaking out like Neil and PJ about Iraq, and honoring all the 60's greats and saying, 2003 generation, where are your protest songs.  I absolutely have changed in that respect.  I couldnt give a damn about political music now.  In fact, I prefer music that isnt.  
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,969
    brianlux said:
    It may just be a matter of being my age or whatever, but I'll never understand this notion of "rock is dead" or why it is not so popular with younger people.  Is classical/orchestral music dead?  No, it's been around for 100's of years in varying forms.  Are blues or jazz dead?  Hell no, that music has been around for well over 100 years.  So why would something as energizing and exciting as great rock of various styles be dead?
    Some people have said (elsewhere) that it's because all of the facets of rock have been explored.  But you could say that about most types of music.  And yet orchestral scores are composed quite regularly- if for no other reason, for movie soundtracks- and news rock songs are written all the time, etc. 
    And when I look at the history of rock, I don't see a lot of major changes in that form of music in the first place.  What has always made certain bands and artists interesting to me are some of the components of the music besides the basic form (and rock, in general, is fairly basic in the first place).  The components that set many rock acts apart from the rest include things like:

    -Stand out, distinctive vocal sound and quality.  Think of the great rock singers- their voices are instantly recognizable:  Neil Young, Eddie Vedder, Juliana Hatfield, Roger Daltry, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Rod Stewart... all of them.  You hear their voices and almost instantly know who they are.
    -Guitar is a major component and guitar stylings are less varied today, not because there is no way to play distinctively, but because too many people try to sound like someone else.  Like the voices above, many guitarists are quickly recognizable.  One of the first things my guitar teacher told me way back in high school was that by listening to as many guitarists as possible and learning a little bit about differing styles, you will be more likely to develop your own style.  I may not be a great guitar player (I'm definitely not), but at least I have a fairly distinctive style of playing. 
    -Presentation is also what sets the best apart from the average.  Too many bands try to emulate cliched rock poses and such.  Nobody is going to windmill like Pete Townshend windmills.  Faggedaboudit! If everyone else is dying their hair fluorescent orange or green, try something different.  Like Robert here, for example:
    Robert Fripp Discografa DiscogsEnjoy The Wit Wisdom amp World of Robert Fripp in His Own Words


    Is this Black Sabbath cover by King Crimson guitarist Robert Fripp and his wife Toyah the oddest tribute of 2020 MusicRadar:lol:


    Fripp-tastic pics!
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Lerxst1992 said:
    brianlux said:
    It may just be a matter of being my age or whatever, but I'll never understand this notion of "rock is dead" or why it is not so popular with younger people.  Is classical/orchestral music dead?  No, it's been around for 100's of years in varying forms.  Are blues or jazz dead?  Hell no, that music has been around for well over 100 years.  So why would something as energizing and exciting as great rock of various styles be dead?
    Some people have said (elsewhere) that it's because all of the facets of rock have been explored.  But you could say that about most types of music.  And yet orchestral scores are composed quite regularly- if for no other reason, for movie soundtracks- and news rock songs are written all the time, etc. 
    And when I look at the history of rock, I don't see a lot of major changes in that form of music in the first place.  What has always made certain bands and artists interesting to me are some of the components of the music besides the basic form (and rock, in general, is fairly basic in the first place).  The components that set many rock acts apart from the rest include things like:

    -Stand out, distinctive vocal sound and quality.  Think of the great rock singers- their voices are instantly recognizable:  Neil Young, Eddie Vedder, Juliana Hatfield, Roger Daltry, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Rod Stewart... all of them.  You hear their voices and almost instantly know who they are.
    -Guitar is a major component and guitar stylings are less varied today, not because there is no way to play distinctively, but because too many people try to sound like someone else.  Like the voices above, many guitarists are quickly recognizable.  One of the first things my guitar teacher told me way back in high school was that by listening to as many guitarists as possible and learning a little bit about differing styles, you will be more likely to develop your own style.  I may not be a great guitar player (I'm definitely not), but at least I have a fairly distinctive style of playing. 
    -Presentation is also what sets the best apart from the average.  Too many bands try to emulate cliched rock poses and such.  Nobody is going to windmill like Pete Townshend windmills.  Faggedaboudit! If everyone else is dying their hair fluorescent orange or green, try something different.  Like Robert here, for example:
    Robert Fripp Discografa DiscogsEnjoy The Wit Wisdom amp World of Robert Fripp in His Own Words


    Is this Black Sabbath cover by King Crimson guitarist Robert Fripp and his wife Toyah the oddest tribute of 2020 MusicRadar:lol:


    Fripp-tastic pics!

    Haha!  Cool, glad you like them!
    I'm such a Frippophile.  Man, that guy!  When I went to see the newly reformed King Crimson in Berkeley in the mid 80's I stood outside the venue waiting for it to open and all of the sudden we could hear Robert doing his sound check.  He was ripping shards of musical Frippertronic bliss into the evening sky that sent chills up and down my spine.  Fan-fucking-Fripp-tasctic!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

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