OLED or QLED?

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Should I save some money and buy a Samsung QLED, or "not be a fucking idiot" and buy a high end LG OLED like my brother says?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    I have two Samsung QLEDs and could not be happier.  Picture quality is fantastic and saved plenty of money in the process.  Win win.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    I returned the LG OLED and got a Samsung QLED last year. Samsungs are still considered high end. The LG just looked weird to me and was giving me a headache. 
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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,802
    Same shit

    just different South Korean Brand
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,394
    Got a Samsung Qled earlier this year and love it
  • CROJAM95 said:
    Same shit

    just different South Korean Brand
    It's the complete opposite shit...
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,446
    edited August 2021
    I think I will go with the Samsung Q95 TV because it offers the flush-agains-the-wall design like the LG G-series but with the miracle that is the One Connect box it won't give me a headache from all the cables when mounted.

    So, making my life easier  > OLED

    Even though the LG Oled offer many advantages. And the price in the end won't be that much different.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Samsung is a better company…
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    Others may disagree but in my opinion/experience, Samsung gets people better than anyone. The LG and Sony TVs I demoed were pretty impressive but none of them were able to make people look as natural and real as the Samsungs. 
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,799
    I agree on Samsung....my wife thinks they are too bright and gives her headaches...so we don't get them but I think they are the best.

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    edited August 2021

    Main things for TV’s:

     

    OLED … each pixel is lit individually … organic lighting … so you will get the best contrast and darks because it isn’t backlit like a LCD TV.  Each pixel can shut off lighting in dark scenes.  LCD’s are lit from the sides of the TV so you will have bleed over in pixels and never have the darks of OLED.  There is a risk of screen burn-in, but only if you have a static image left on for hours … like a 24 hr New channel that you watch 24 hours a day that has a static logo on the screen or if you use the TV as a computer monitor.

    QLED … is backlit LCD screen … fancy marketing term by Samsung but is same as the SHUD term they marketed in past … TV will seem brighter because it is brighter … need to transmit light from the sides of TV to  the pixels on the screen … may be good if you are using in a room with lots of natural lighting.  Banding is a bigger issue, especially the bigger screen you have … “banding” is seeing lines across the screen from the backlit lighting for the LCD’s.  Banding is noticeable in brighter scenes like watching Ice Hockey.  It is probably the worst quality control issue present in new TV’s and is very hard to ignore once you notice it.  The bigger the screen, the more likely banding is present.  My 50” Samsung doesn’t have banding … my 65” Samsung has pretty bad banding.  Both these TV’s are 5 years old.  I really had to tweek the setting to dampen the effect of banding but watching hockey really highlights banding problems.  The other issue with LCD screens are the dreaded “dead pixel”

    HDMI 2.1 … If you are spending money, make sure it has at least three (3) HDMI 2.1 ports … usually you will have one of the HDMI ports that can also be used as ARC.  ARC is used for soundbars so if you have three (3) 2.1 HDMI ports and one of those ports is also used for ARC, you essentially have to look at it as only having two (2) 2.1 HDMI ports if you use a soundbar.

    120 Hz Frequency … very important for gaming … if you want to take advantage of PS5 or Xbox Series X, you need 120 Hz

    I would recommend if you are looking to spend for a premium TV, OLED with four (4) 2.1 HDMI ports and 120 Hz are a must.  I’m looking at LG C1 series specifically.  If you want to save money, LCD backlit with the same specs on 2.1 HDMI and 120 Hz, but should be significantly cheaper then an OLED screen.  Don’t pay same money for backlit LCD if an OLED TV is cost competitive.  If a TV has those specs, it will most likely cover all the other bases on the fancy terms you hear for marketing TV’s such as HDR, VRR and such. 






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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    I agree on Samsung....my wife thinks they are too bright and gives her headaches...so we don't get them but I think they are the best.

    I have heard that complaint about TVs from LG and Sony too. The trick is to dial the brightness to the appropriate level for the room. 
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,446
    edited August 2021
    Jason P said:

    Main things for TV’s:

     

    OLED … each pixel is lit individually … organic lighting … so you will get the best contrast and darks because it isn’t backlit like a LCD TV.  Each pixel can shut off lighting in dark scenes.  LCD’s are lit from the sides of the TV so you will have bleed over in pixels and never have the darks of OLED.  There is a risk of screen burn-in, but only if you have a static image left on for hours … like a 24 hr New channel that you watch 24 hours a day that has a static logo on the screen or if you use the TV as a computer monitor.

    QLED … is backlit LCD screen … fancy marketing term by Samsung but is same as the SHUD term they marketed in past … TV will seem brighter because it is brighter … need to transmit light from the sides of TV to  the pixels on the screen … may be good if you are using in a room with lots of natural lighting.  Banding is a bigger issue, especially the bigger screen you have … “banding” is seeing lines across the screen from the backlit lighting for the LCD’s.  Banding is noticeable in brighter scenes like watching Ice Hockey.  It is probably the worst quality control issue present in new TV’s and is very hard to ignore once you notice it.  The bigger the screen, the more likely banding is present.  My 50” Samsung doesn’t have banding … my 65” Samsung has pretty bad banding.  Both these TV’s are 5 years old.  I really had to tweek the setting to dampen the effect of banding but watching hockey really highlights banding problems.  The other issue with LCD screens are the dreaded “dead pixel”

    HDMI 2.1 … If you are spending money, make sure it has at least three (3) HDMI 2.1 ports … usually you will have one of the HDMI ports that can also be used as ARC.  ARC is used for soundbars so if you have three (3) 2.1 HDMI ports and one of those ports is also used for ARC, you essentially have to look at it as only having two (2) 2.1 HDMI ports if you use a soundbar.

    120 Hz Frequency … very important for gaming … if you want to take advantage of PS5 or Xbox Series X, you need 120 Hz

    I would recommend if you are looking to spend for a premium TV, OLED with four (4) 2.1 HDMI ports and 120 Hz are a must.  I’m looking at LG C1 series specifically.  If you want to save money, LCD backlit with the same specs on 2.1 HDMI and 120 Hz, but should be significantly cheaper then an OLED screen.  Don’t pay same money for backlit LCD if an OLED TV is cost competitive.  If a TV has those specs, it will most likely cover all the other bases on the fancy terms you hear for marketing TV’s such as HDR, VRR and such. 






    Yes I know, and from the image quality, HDMI ports supporting 2.1 (the LG Gallery series has all the HDMI ports be 2.1, Samsung only has one) to Dolby Vision - the LG OLED wins over the Samsung.

    But I want it flush to the wall, and with Samsung having its One Connect box that is a big draw. Not having four HDMI-cables and a power chord hanging down thw wall etc.

    The price for me seems to be LG Gallery 55 inch = 1850 dollars
    The price for the Samsung Q95 55 inch = 1400 dollars.

    But I will wait for Black friday I think. And maybe settle on a LG Gallery and live with having to put up a cable-channel (or whatever it's called in english) for all the cables.

    My brother just upgraded his LG CX 65 inch for a LG CX 77 inch. And the image quality is great.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    Jason P said:

    Main things for TV’s:

     

    OLED … each pixel is lit individually … organic lighting … so you will get the best contrast and darks because it isn’t backlit like a LCD TV.  Each pixel can shut off lighting in dark scenes.  LCD’s are lit from the sides of the TV so you will have bleed over in pixels and never have the darks of OLED.  There is a risk of screen burn-in, but only if you have a static image left on for hours … like a 24 hr New channel that you watch 24 hours a day that has a static logo on the screen or if you use the TV as a computer monitor.

    QLED … is backlit LCD screen … fancy marketing term by Samsung but is same as the SHUD term they marketed in past … TV will seem brighter because it is brighter … need to transmit light from the sides of TV to  the pixels on the screen … may be good if you are using in a room with lots of natural lighting.  Banding is a bigger issue, especially the bigger screen you have … “banding” is seeing lines across the screen from the backlit lighting for the LCD’s.  Banding is noticeable in brighter scenes like watching Ice Hockey.  It is probably the worst quality control issue present in new TV’s and is very hard to ignore once you notice it.  The bigger the screen, the more likely banding is present.  My 50” Samsung doesn’t have banding … my 65” Samsung has pretty bad banding.  Both these TV’s are 5 years old.  I really had to tweek the setting to dampen the effect of banding but watching hockey really highlights banding problems.  The other issue with LCD screens are the dreaded “dead pixel”

    HDMI 2.1 … If you are spending money, make sure it has at least three (3) HDMI 2.1 ports … usually you will have one of the HDMI ports that can also be used as ARC.  ARC is used for soundbars so if you have three (3) 2.1 HDMI ports and one of those ports is also used for ARC, you essentially have to look at it as only having two (2) 2.1 HDMI ports if you use a soundbar.

    120 Hz Frequency … very important for gaming … if you want to take advantage of PS5 or Xbox Series X, you need 120 Hz

    I would recommend if you are looking to spend for a premium TV, OLED with four (4) 2.1 HDMI ports and 120 Hz are a must.  I’m looking at LG C1 series specifically.  If you want to save money, LCD backlit with the same specs on 2.1 HDMI and 120 Hz, but should be significantly cheaper then an OLED screen.  Don’t pay same money for backlit LCD if an OLED TV is cost competitive.  If a TV has those specs, it will most likely cover all the other bases on the fancy terms you hear for marketing TV’s such as HDR, VRR and such. 






    Yes I know, and from the image quality, HDMI ports supporting 2.1 (the LG Gallery series has all the HDMI ports be 2.1, Samsung only has one) to Dolby Vision - the LG OLED wins over the Samsung.

    But I want it flush to the wall, and with Samsung having its One Connect box that is a big draw. Not having four HDMI-cables and a power chord hanging down thw wall etc.

    The price for me seems to be LG Gallery 55 inch = 1850 dollars
    The price for the Samsung Q95 55 inch = 1400 dollars.

    But I will wait for Black friday I think. And maybe settle on a LG Gallery and live with having to put up a cable-channel (or whatever it's called in english) for all the cables.

    My brother just upgraded his LG CX 65 inch for a LG CX 77 inch. And the image quality is great.

    The One Connect box is nice.  You can buy a cord concealer kit for cheap and paint it to match your wall ... or just have the one cord exposed.  It is nice not to have to dig behind the TV when connecting new devices. 

    One other thing Samsung has nailed is the remote control.  It is small and works really well for how simplistic it looks.  No unnecessary buttons ... unlike Sony which still rocks the giant remote with a million buttons, 85% of which you will never use.  It is even better designed then the Apple TV remote in my opinion.  Perfect size and layout and I never find myself having to study it.

    I got a Sony LCD flagship a few years back when OLED was still pricey.  Sony uses Google Android for their TV's and it has been a bad experience for me.  Bad enough that I will never buy anything that is Android powered for the rest of my life ... sometimes Android needs to reboot and take several minutes to turn the TV on.  The Sony controller is garbage ... an outdated relic of the 90's ... button layout is not logical and every time you will need to turn a light on to study it for the button you intend to press.  TV picture is above average, but TV isn't thin especially compared to Samsung and LG. 

    I think Samsung and LG, although using different TV technology, are cream of the crop.  I don't think you will be disappointed with either option.
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • Jason P said:
    Jason P said:

    Main things for TV’s:

     

    OLED … each pixel is lit individually … organic lighting … so you will get the best contrast and darks because it isn’t backlit like a LCD TV.  Each pixel can shut off lighting in dark scenes.  LCD’s are lit from the sides of the TV so you will have bleed over in pixels and never have the darks of OLED.  There is a risk of screen burn-in, but only if you have a static image left on for hours … like a 24 hr New channel that you watch 24 hours a day that has a static logo on the screen or if you use the TV as a computer monitor.

    QLED … is backlit LCD screen … fancy marketing term by Samsung but is same as the SHUD term they marketed in past … TV will seem brighter because it is brighter … need to transmit light from the sides of TV to  the pixels on the screen … may be good if you are using in a room with lots of natural lighting.  Banding is a bigger issue, especially the bigger screen you have … “banding” is seeing lines across the screen from the backlit lighting for the LCD’s.  Banding is noticeable in brighter scenes like watching Ice Hockey.  It is probably the worst quality control issue present in new TV’s and is very hard to ignore once you notice it.  The bigger the screen, the more likely banding is present.  My 50” Samsung doesn’t have banding … my 65” Samsung has pretty bad banding.  Both these TV’s are 5 years old.  I really had to tweek the setting to dampen the effect of banding but watching hockey really highlights banding problems.  The other issue with LCD screens are the dreaded “dead pixel”

    HDMI 2.1 … If you are spending money, make sure it has at least three (3) HDMI 2.1 ports … usually you will have one of the HDMI ports that can also be used as ARC.  ARC is used for soundbars so if you have three (3) 2.1 HDMI ports and one of those ports is also used for ARC, you essentially have to look at it as only having two (2) 2.1 HDMI ports if you use a soundbar.

    120 Hz Frequency … very important for gaming … if you want to take advantage of PS5 or Xbox Series X, you need 120 Hz

    I would recommend if you are looking to spend for a premium TV, OLED with four (4) 2.1 HDMI ports and 120 Hz are a must.  I’m looking at LG C1 series specifically.  If you want to save money, LCD backlit with the same specs on 2.1 HDMI and 120 Hz, but should be significantly cheaper then an OLED screen.  Don’t pay same money for backlit LCD if an OLED TV is cost competitive.  If a TV has those specs, it will most likely cover all the other bases on the fancy terms you hear for marketing TV’s such as HDR, VRR and such. 






    Yes I know, and from the image quality, HDMI ports supporting 2.1 (the LG Gallery series has all the HDMI ports be 2.1, Samsung only has one) to Dolby Vision - the LG OLED wins over the Samsung.

    But I want it flush to the wall, and with Samsung having its One Connect box that is a big draw. Not having four HDMI-cables and a power chord hanging down thw wall etc.

    The price for me seems to be LG Gallery 55 inch = 1850 dollars
    The price for the Samsung Q95 55 inch = 1400 dollars.

    But I will wait for Black friday I think. And maybe settle on a LG Gallery and live with having to put up a cable-channel (or whatever it's called in english) for all the cables.

    My brother just upgraded his LG CX 65 inch for a LG CX 77 inch. And the image quality is great.

    The One Connect box is nice.  You can buy a cord concealer kit for cheap and paint it to match your wall ... or just have the one cord exposed.  It is nice not to have to dig behind the TV when connecting new devices. 

    One other thing Samsung has nailed is the remote control.  It is small and works really well for how simplistic it looks.  No unnecessary buttons ... unlike Sony which still rocks the giant remote with a million buttons, 85% of which you will never use.  It is even better designed then the Apple TV remote in my opinion.  Perfect size and layout and I never find myself having to study it.

    I got a Sony LCD flagship a few years back when OLED was still pricey.  Sony uses Google Android for their TV's and it has been a bad experience for me.  Bad enough that I will never buy anything that is Android powered for the rest of my life ... sometimes Android needs to reboot and take several minutes to turn the TV on.  The Sony controller is garbage ... an outdated relic of the 90's ... button layout is not logical and every time you will need to turn a light on to study it for the button you intend to press.  TV picture is above average, but TV isn't thin especially compared to Samsung and LG. 

    I think Samsung and LG, although using different TV technology, are cream of the crop.  I don't think you will be disappointed with either option.
    The Samsung remote now is solar powered too. Not saying you ever need to change batteries in a remote... but still.. :)

    Just saw that the Q95 2021 is like 2200 dollars. Its the 2020 model that is 1400 dollars. Brother said something about Samsung removing "dimming zones" (whatever that is).

    I'll see at Black friday what deals there are. Really need to get a TV up on the wall so I can fit my record player and my Wii-U. 

    ILL BE BACK IN OCTOBER

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  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,334
    I have had a LG OLED for I'd say....5 years now. 
    It's starting to have some color issues  On a yellow screen, there is a faint green circle in the middle of the screen.  The same with an orange background.
    Turns out, it's a bit of a known issue that LG isn't doing much of anything about.  Apparently, over the years, the heat produced from the back of the TV messes up the pixels so instead of the individual pixels turning a certain color, they display another.  They are still "told" to produce a color, but I guess they are burnt out...to some degree due to the heat.
    The heat and processor is exactly where the color change is.
    Apparently it's also worse if you have the TV mounted on a wall, as the heat has nowhere to go.

    Maybe they have addressed it with the newer models, but something to consider if you're looking at a LG OLED.

    The first 4.5 years were great and it's not something worth replacing....yet...but it's def an issue and LG isn't doing anything about it as it happens to older TVs that are out of warranty.  
  • mca47 said:
    I have had a LG OLED for I'd say....5 years now. 
    It's starting to have some color issues  On a yellow screen, there is a faint green circle in the middle of the screen.  The same with an orange background.
    Turns out, it's a bit of a known issue that LG isn't doing much of anything about.  Apparently, over the years, the heat produced from the back of the TV messes up the pixels so instead of the individual pixels turning a certain color, they display another.  They are still "told" to produce a color, but I guess they are burnt out...to some degree due to the heat.
    The heat and processor is exactly where the color change is.
    Apparently it's also worse if you have the TV mounted on a wall, as the heat has nowhere to go.

    Maybe they have addressed it with the newer models, but something to consider if you're looking at a LG OLED.

    The first 4.5 years were great and it's not something worth replacing....yet...but it's def an issue and LG isn't doing anything about it as it happens to older TVs that are out of warranty.  
    Hmm... This scares me...
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    These TVs are not meant to last to much more than 5 years…
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,334
    These TVs are not meant to last to much more than 5 years…
    Well, that seems to be true for mine. 
    The only time I really notice the color change is on commercials with a solid yellow or orange background.  Then the green blob is really noticeable (looking at you Liberty Mutual commercials!).
    I hope it doesn't get worse, because I really don't want to buy a new TV...especially a new one every 5 damn years!  Ugh.
  • Last years LG GX series is not available anymore in Sweden. Wanted to get one by Black Friday. Waited to long. The G1 (this years) is 2000 dollars. The GX was 1500 before it disappeared. and pretty much the same TV.

    Grr.
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  • Purple Fairy Tree
    Purple Fairy Tree Posts: 2,055
    edited November 2021
    I'd love to say I feel your pain, but to me... It's just a tv!
    Post edited by Purple Fairy Tree on