2025-2026 NHL Offseason

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Breaking News…Nikita Kutcherov had a fractured rib…Surgery scheduled for October 1st…he’ll be ready for round 1 of the playoffs in 2022

    Julien BrisBrois was robbed of the playoff mvp award

    On second thought it’s best Kuncherov plays for teams like Tampa…it’s obvious he prefers non passionate fans like Tampa…hehehe


    Passionate fans with back to back cups.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    https://twitter.com/lpgeek/status/1413104980807012361?s=21

    Look at all those passionate fans..

    Breaking news…Gary Bettman has signed off on Kutcherov’s medical and agrees “a fractured rib is delicate and needs a season to rehab.”

    He wishes him well and looks forward to having him back for the playoffs…wink wink…




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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

    Here's your roadmap to an extra-busy NHL off-season


    https://www.cbc.ca/sports/the-buzzer-nhl-off-season-1.6095404


    Some folks will be disappointed in not going to the Olympics.  Some players especially… but I will not be disappointed.  The IIHF and the IOC are just plain annoying to deal with.  The Nhl can not use Sydney Crosby Vancouver winning goal in nhl marketing…let those clowns continue to watch second rate hockey…

    Something else to keep an eye on: the Olympics.

    Some people are under the misconception that, as part of their latest labour deal, the NHL agreed to let its players go to Beijing next winter. But the league only agreed to participate if a deal could be struck with the International Olympic Committee. That's no slam dunk. Recall the big-shot posturing that occurred before the 2018 Games. IOC president Thomas Bach decided that his organization would no longer cover the travel, accommodations and insurance costs for the world's best hockey players to compete in South Korea, and NHL commissioner Gary Bettman refused to pay too. The International Ice Hockey Federation stepped in and said it would pick up the estimated $20-million US tab. But then Bettman demanded the IOC grant his league certain marketing considerations and the right to use some Olympic content on its own platforms. Bach balked, Bettman wouldn't blink, and that's how we ended up with Derek Roy and Maxime Nareau being Canada's leading scorers in a forgettable tournament.


    Four years later, the NHL's position remains the same: pausing our season for two weeks to let our highest-paid employees go off and make money for someone else just isn't worth it — unless you throw in some goodies. The league's general lack of enthusiasm for the '22 Olympics was evident in some comments made by deputy commissioner Bill Daly last week. "With the future Games in Beijing and the continued uncertainty with the virus and the Games being halfway around the world, [this is] not necessarily an ideal Games to elect to go to," Daly said. The deputy commish also said the league has "deferred to the Players' Association to try to work through" the "material issues" with the IOC. Translation: if the players can figure this thing out, great. If not, shrug emoji.

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879

    Here's your roadmap to an extra-busy NHL off-season


    https://www.cbc.ca/sports/the-buzzer-nhl-off-season-1.6095404


    Some folks will be disappointed in not going to the Olympics.  Some players especially… but I will not be disappointed.  The IIHF and the IOC are just plain annoying to deal with.  The Nhl can not use Sydney Crosby Vancouver winning goal in nhl marketing…let those clowns continue to watch second rate hockey…

    Something else to keep an eye on: the Olympics.

    Some people are under the misconception that, as part of their latest labour deal, the NHL agreed to let its players go to Beijing next winter. But the league only agreed to participate if a deal could be struck with the International Olympic Committee. That's no slam dunk. Recall the big-shot posturing that occurred before the 2018 Games. IOC president Thomas Bach decided that his organization would no longer cover the travel, accommodations and insurance costs for the world's best hockey players to compete in South Korea, and NHL commissioner Gary Bettman refused to pay too. The International Ice Hockey Federation stepped in and said it would pick up the estimated $20-million US tab. But then Bettman demanded the IOC grant his league certain marketing considerations and the right to use some Olympic content on its own platforms. Bach balked, Bettman wouldn't blink, and that's how we ended up with Derek Roy and Maxime Nareau being Canada's leading scorers in a forgettable tournament.


    Four years later, the NHL's position remains the same: pausing our season for two weeks to let our highest-paid employees go off and make money for someone else just isn't worth it — unless you throw in some goodies. The league's general lack of enthusiasm for the '22 Olympics was evident in some comments made by deputy commissioner Bill Daly last week. "With the future Games in Beijing and the continued uncertainty with the virus and the Games being halfway around the world, [this is] not necessarily an ideal Games to elect to go to," Daly said. The deputy commish also said the league has "deferred to the Players' Association to try to work through" the "material issues" with the IOC. Translation: if the players can figure this thing out, great. If not, shrug emoji.

    There's no upside for ownership in letting them go, unless it's worth a ton of money.  Injuries, loss of momentum in the season, etc. make it mostly downside.  I don't blame them. 
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Agreed for the most part…but if you can grow nhl hockey in China there a potential for huge merchandising.

    The other part is the players.

    victor hedman recently commented that he’d be disappointed if the nhl did not go.  The Olympics is important to European players.  

    But I agree for the most part it’s an inconvenience…
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,852
    Im not a big fan of the NHLers in the olympics.  It grinds the NHL season to a halt and it always makes the rest of the regular season and playoffs seem like a war of attrition.

    The olympic tournaments have been a huge letdown nearly every time.  The only good ones were the ones played here in SLC and Vancouver.  Nagano was cool because it was the first one, the star-power represented was insane, and Hasek stole it, but in 2022, that tournament would fall flat.


    I much prefer the Canada Cup/World Cup format.  Keep it in house, maybe as a late August/September tournament.  Hold it here and rotate cities/Canada/US.  Maybe have it in Europe once in awhile.  I thought that last one they had was much better than the Socchi tournament




  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    MayDay10 said:
    Im not a big fan of the NHLers in the olympics.  It grinds the NHL season to a halt and it always makes the rest of the regular season and playoffs seem like a war of attrition.

    The olympic tournaments have been a huge letdown nearly every time.  The only good ones were the ones played here in SLC and Vancouver.  Nagano was cool because it was the first one, the star-power represented was insane, and Hasek stole it, but in 2022, that tournament would fall flat.


    I much prefer the Canada Cup/World Cup format.  Keep it in house, maybe as a late August/September tournament.  Hold it here and rotate cities/Canada/US.  Maybe have it in Europe once in awhile.  I thought that last one they had was much better than the Socchi tournament




    Agree with all of this, but I also agree with Meltdown that the Olympics hold a certain level of prestige.  I can't imagine much compares to an Olympic Gold medal so it doesn't surprise me in the least that the players like it.  I'm sure it's a hell of an experience.   But the timing is just terrible for the NHL and the injury situation is real.  
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I’ll  take a pass on the World Cup of Hockey if it includes the gimmicks…it has to be nation vs nation … 

    but this is the same league that has embraced gimmicks like 3 on 3 ot and shootouts…

    I have very little faith in this league doing anything right.

    Everything Bettman has done has cheapened the nhl…
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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,234
    Could Hockey move to the Summer Olympics?(like basketball)
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,908
    I’ll  take a pass on the World Cup of Hockey if it includes the gimmicks…it has to be nation vs nation … 

    but this is the same league that has embraced gimmicks like 3 on 3 ot and shootouts…

    I have very little faith in this league doing anything right.

    Everything Bettman has done has cheapened the nhl…
    I think Bettman gets a raw deal mostly because he is a bit weird looking and awkward.  The NHL game today is 1000x better than it was in the 1990s.  The game is more wide open today. Lot less clutching and grabbing and bullshit interference. The game in the 1990s was terrible.  Calling rules as they are written, new rules like no 2-line pass, faster face-offs, no touch up icing, no defensive changes after icing just to name a few.  Bettman is a bit of a clown but the game under his watch has gotten better. Yea it sucks that there are teams in shitty markets but that's how you build the profile of the game. One of the best players in the game was born in Arizona. Think that happens without hockey in Arizona?  What changes would you make with how the game is played or how the game is managed today?
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,769
    I hate the shootout, but I love 3 on 3 overtime. 
  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,179
    I hate the shootout, but I love 3 on 3 overtime. 
    yeah i agree.

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    The left wing lock that the Devils were able to play in the 90s was an abomination.  Totally killed the game.  Then you had goalies able to play the puck anywhere, killing the forecheck game.  Sucked. 
  • erebus
    erebus Posts: 612
    Maybe enforce equipment size on goalies?
    Garth Snow was ginormous lol
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    pjhawks said:
    I’ll  take a pass on the World Cup of Hockey if it includes the gimmicks…it has to be nation vs nation … 

    but this is the same league that has embraced gimmicks like 3 on 3 ot and shootouts…

    I have very little faith in this league doing anything right.

    Everything Bettman has done has cheapened the nhl…
    I think Bettman gets a raw deal mostly because he is a bit weird looking and awkward.  The NHL game today is 1000x better than it was in the 1990s.  The game is more wide open today. Lot less clutching and grabbing and bullshit interference. The game in the 1990s was terrible.  Calling rules as they are written, new rules like no 2-line pass, faster face-offs, no touch up icing, no defensive changes after icing just to name a few.  Bettman is a bit of a clown but the game under his watch has gotten better. Yea it sucks that there are teams in shitty markets but that's how you build the profile of the game. One of the best players in the game was born in Arizona. Think that happens without hockey in Arizona?  What changes would you make with how the game is played or how the game is managed today?
    Most of those changes you mention were brought over from Europe.  The fast faceoff has gone the way of the dodo bird...

    I'd eliminate the dumb delay a game penalty for shooting the puck over the glass...quite embarrassing watching millionaires point to the glass looking for a 2-minute penalty and doesn't speed up the game because more times than not the 4 officials have to get together and discuss.

    I've never been a fan of not being able to change after an icing...game 6 Montreal v Vegas in OT, Montreal shot the puck down the ice and the puck glanced off the Vegas goalie and ended up in the corner...somehow 4 officials (the greatest in the world according to Bettman) missed this and awarded Vegas an icing that almost cost Montreal the game...

    I would award 3 points for a win, 2 points for an OT win, and 1 point each for a tie...I'd scrap 3 on 3 and the shootout...too often during the regular season teams that are tied with 5 to go just play for the extra point...and this playoff season is more than proof enough that when the game is on the line goal-scoring happens quickly...there never should be a participation point awarded (loss).  This is proffesional sports...not high school track and field where they award ribbons just for getting there on time...hehehe

    The instigator rule would be gone.  The rule came into effect in the early '90s.   The league refuses to protect its stars and instead allows goonery towards the stars.  Gretzky had Semenko and McSorley, Yzerman had Probert and Kocur...no one was fucking with Yzerman and Gretzky...

    I don't know about you, but I'd rather take a punch to the head than somebody retaliating with an elbow to head...if you don't believe me...next time you are at a sporting goods store, check out the body armour these guys suit up with today...

    Shit when I played, the equipment I had would not cause damage to an opponent...











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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mrussel1 said:
    The left wing lock that the Devils were able to play in the 90s was an abomination.  Totally killed the game.  Then you had goalies able to play the puck anywhere, killing the forecheck game.  Sucked. 
    That was another European import...I hated it as well.  Detroit played it and was a very exciting team... the difference is Detroit had scorers and NJ was more defensive-minded...

    Most teams use a version of it today...sometimes just when they have a lead and want to shut teams down...

    Goal scoring will remain the way it is until Bettman stops allowing the stars to be mauled by guys that should be in the AHL...
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    According to Elliot Friedman from Sportsnet the NHL will be at the Olympics…he figures there will be contingencies in place to not go if Covid prevents them from going.  The players are willing to assume the risk and go with no insurance…

    I personally don’t care…but part of the extension of CBA was Olympic participation…and the players want to go…and I suspect most hockey fans want the nhl to participate…


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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,808
    I disagree on the delay of game penalty needing to go.  Having defensemen flip the puck out of play is bullshit.  If this rule went it would happen all of the time.
    I also think you should for sure not be able to change lines after icing the puck.

    I don't like that they killed the two line pass call but know most people liked that change 
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,808
    Do agree they need to allow fighting to deter the chippy bullshit and to protect their stars.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    I disagree on the delay of game penalty needing to go.  Having defensemen flip the puck out of play is bullshit.  If this rule went it would happen all of the time.
    I also think you should for sure not be able to change lines after icing the puck.

    I don't like that they killed the two line pass call but know most people liked that change 
    I'm also very supportive of the delay of game and the icing rule.  Otherwise you would just have more whistles which we don't need.  Plus, a nice PP is always welcomed, so a non contact PP is great. 

    Two line pass sucked, I'm sorry.  There's nothing more exciting than a breakaway in hockey.  It flips the game in an instant.  Plus, when the other team is down, so pinching their d, you can punish them with that play.  Can't do it with the two line rule.  Combine that with the left wing lock or any strategy to clog the neutral zone and the game deadens.