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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,807
    Poncier said:
    ..................HOW?............. WHY? This is very, very bad:


    That's Little League level fielding.
    Just turn around and step on first when he retreats.


    Low level little league!
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,261
    Poncier said:
    ..................HOW?............. WHY? This is very, very bad:


    That's Little League level fielding.
    Just turn around and step on first when he retreats.

    yet he’s el fucking mago.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    This has been going on as long as I can remember.  Nothing shocking here.  The batters will catch up again.  They always do.  When they do I'll be screaming to raise the damn mound again, lol!
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,625
    Do you think the ball is deadened?
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,261
    hey F’me - this DeScalfini dude is pretty good.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,807
    Yeah, we always liked Disco
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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,520
    igotid88 said:
    Do you think the ball is deadened?
    Nah, I think it's mainly the above. Plus, the ball still flies. I mean the stats are pretty clear. There is more than a significant jump in rotation on the ball, plus the more advanced materials for stickiness and approaches to doctoring the ball. I honestly think the answer is airport style security checks, haha, as the suggest in the article. Because there's just no way you adjust to this.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,874
    "Gerrit, have you ever cheated?"
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Fine to view their accomplishments and statistics in this new light but I think labeling these guys as all out cheaters may be going a little too far. As poorly as he handled that question, on the rebound he seemed to point out that it’s pretty openly discussed in locker rooms and there have been alot of hitters approve of various substances as a safety measure.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,520
    DewieCox said:
    Fine to view their accomplishments and statistics in this new light but I think labeling these guys as all out cheaters may be going a little too far. As poorly as he handled that question, on the rebound he seemed to point out that it’s pretty openly discussed in locker rooms and there have been alot of hitters approve of various substances as a safety measure.
    I agree I wouldn't label them as cheaters.Which, fair, but also think this leans toward the problem of blurring the lines. Batters approve of rosin, etc, certain substances, so that they're not losing their heads to a 90mph slider. But then the line keeps getting pushed, and then the pitchers say, "well you said this was alright". And then I'm sure some of these lunkhead hitters are thinking the same thing, like, "yeah, that's true, I guess I can't really argue with that." And on and on the lines get blurred. 

    Like that SI article mentioned, spin rates are significantly up, and not just by a little bit while K rates are through the roof. Plus, the part where they're talking about you can now literally hear the ball tearing away from the pitcher's fingers to the point of it sounds like a tear/snap out of the hand and that's not nothin'. I think if they're looking into a way to readjust the game then I think the obvious and inevitable answer is to come down hard on this stuff. And when that happens pitchers are gonna biiiiiitch big time.

    That blurred area is why Cole knows full well it's wrong and get super uncomfortable, but then knows exactly the argument to make and turns to the what-about-isms of "legislation".
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,024
    One of the National reporters today said a few of the more advanced teams have literally hired chemists to come up with stuff. What started as rosin and sunscreen seems to have gotten out of control.

    They’ll crack down and come up with something better than the rosin mixture and worse than what they are currently using.

    At the end of the day, the best pitchers will still be the best pitchers since everyone is doing it.

    As with everything, baseball is so reactionary and only does something once it’s obvious and out of control


  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    It's already against the rules so why MLB ignores yet another clear violation is frustrating. I mean, Cole knows it's against the rules and plays the whole "my peers" bullshit argument. Same shit I hear from my kids, "but so and so said...".
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Jumb0
    Jumb0 Posts: 910
    cutz said:


    Tremendous deflecting here and an obviously resounding "yes, I have". 
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,024
    It's dumb that he wasn't prepared for that question, but whatever.  It's also dumb he's becoming the face of it, but that's what happens with the big contract.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    It's dumb that he wasn't prepared for that question, but whatever.  It's also dumb he's becoming the face of it, but that's what happens with the big contract.
    I feel like they should put a light bulb above his head at that moment. It's like he realized, that's what that shit is called and then went down the rabbit hole of passed down traditions BS.
    It's a hopeless situation...