POLL- The WEAKEST LINK: Rolling Stone Magazine's Top 10 Guitarist- ROUND 1

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,602
    edited April 2021
    Chuck Berry
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    guess I should take my leave of this place, piece of shit drunken addict that I am.
    Is your comment in response to my thinking Clapton is a dirtbag?
    I don't mean to offend you - although if you took sex by force, ever, I would think the same of you.
    That is not a stance vs. you, it is a stance vs rape.

    do you believe if he was sober he would have done these things?

    not as an excuse but an explanation of atrocious behavior?

    certainly is responsible for and accountable to , as all addicts and alcoholics are but surely the substance abuse mitigates that somewhat?
    Sorry, this is a heavy conversation for the music poll.  I know this is a personal subject for you - as rape can be/is for others.  What you choose to forgive and look beyond in judging a person is a personal matter for you.
    For myself, "I was drunk or high" doesn't mean I look past something like sexual abuse.  Does it color why they have have done what they did?  Yes, of course, I think that could be the case.
    I've done lots of things while under the influence that I likely not have done sober.  That doesn't make them or any effects surrounding them go away, though.

    "as rape can be/is for others"

    inferring I take it lightly.

    little sister repeatedly molested 80-81. raped in 86. dead by suicide in 88.

    have a suggestion for you. guess what it is


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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,836
    Pete Townshend
    I am very sorry to hear that, I did not mean to infer you took it lightly.

    I'll go fuck off now.

    (Clapton is still a scuzz)
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,602
    Chuck Berry
    I dont believe BB belongs on this list either. or at least not top ten.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Eric Clapton
    mickeyrat said:
    I dont believe BB belongs on this list either. or at least not top ten.
    I love BB to death. I've seen him quite a few times live, even when he was ailing a bit.

    I want to disagree with you because of how much I love his style and influence. On the other hand, he played guitar all his damn life and never learned how to string together a few chords. That's hard to look past as someone who plays the guitar (and mostly chords at that :lol: ).

    Then again, one could say that it's laudable that the guy had (and continues to have) a huge influence on the way the instrument is approached and appreciated, and he never even learned how to string a few chords together. That's how goddamn good he was at what he did!
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,602
    Chuck Berry
    dankind said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I dont believe BB belongs on this list either. or at least not top ten.
    I love BB to death. I've seen him quite a few times live, even when he was ailing a bit.

    I want to disagree with you because of how much I love his style and influence. On the other hand, he played guitar all his damn life and never learned how to string together a few chords. That's hard to look past as someone who plays the guitar (and mostly chords at that :lol: ).

    Then again, one could say that it's laudable that the guy had (and continues to have) a huge influence on the way the instrument is approached and appreciated, and he never even learned how to string a few chords together. That's how goddamn good he was at what he did!
    saw him in st pete on the lawn of the vinoy hotel. good show. $5.... 93? 94?

    I'd put buddy guy or muddy waters above bb

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Pap
    Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,976
    Athens 2006 / Milton Keynes 2014 / London 1&2 2022 / Seattle 1&2 2024 / Dublin 2024 / Manchester 2024 / New Orleans 2025
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    edited April 2021
    Eric Clapton
    mickeyrat said:
    dankind said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I dont believe BB belongs on this list either. or at least not top ten.
    I love BB to death. I've seen him quite a few times live, even when he was ailing a bit.

    I want to disagree with you because of how much I love his style and influence. On the other hand, he played guitar all his damn life and never learned how to string together a few chords. That's hard to look past as someone who plays the guitar (and mostly chords at that :lol: ).

    Then again, one could say that it's laudable that the guy had (and continues to have) a huge influence on the way the instrument is approached and appreciated, and he never even learned how to string a few chords together. That's how goddamn good he was at what he did!
    saw him in st pete on the lawn of the vinoy hotel. good show. $5.... 93? 94?

    I'd put buddy guy or muddy waters above bb

    I was there! I think it was a little later because I was no longer in undergrad. Good times hanging at the Pier.
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,602
    edited April 2021
    Chuck Berry
    dankind said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dankind said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I dont believe BB belongs on this list either. or at least not top ten.
    I love BB to death. I've seen him quite a few times live, even when he was ailing a bit.

    I want to disagree with you because of how much I love his style and influence. On the other hand, he played guitar all his damn life and never learned how to string together a few chords. That's hard to look past as someone who plays the guitar (and mostly chords at that :lol: ).

    Then again, one could say that it's laudable that the guy had (and continues to have) a huge influence on the way the instrument is approached and appreciated, and he never even learned how to string a few chords together. That's how goddamn good he was at what he did!
    saw him in st pete on the lawn of the vinoy hotel. good show. $5.... 93? 94?

    I'd put buddy guy or muddy waters above bb

    I was there! I think it was a little later because I was no longer in undergrad. Good times hanging at the Pier.

    94. saw pj at bayfront arena that year too.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    Jeff Beck
    2 of my top 3 did not make the top 10.

    1) Page
    2) Gilmour
    3) Young
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Eric Clapton
    Hobbes said:
    2 of my top 3 did not make the top 10.

    1) Page
    2) Gilmour
    3) Young
    Same.

    My top 3

    1) Frusciante
    2) Hendrix
    3) Rhoads
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Pete Townshend
    Hobbes said:
    2 of my top 3 did not make the top 10.

    1) Page
    2) Gilmour
    3) Young
    Gilmour is a good one.  His writing is off the charts amazing. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,836
    Pete Townshend
    dankind said:
    Hobbes said:
    2 of my top 3 did not make the top 10.

    1) Page
    2) Gilmour
    3) Young
    Same.

    My top 3

    1) Frusciante
    2) Hendrix
    3) Rhoads

    1 & 3 are/were amazing...I like those additions!
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    To close to call right now, will let this go till tonight.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Pete Townshend
    I think Duane Allman could have been one of the greats.  His early death limits his catalog, but his slide work on the whole Layla album is phenomenal.  And of course the Fillmore shows are maybe some of the great live rock performances ever.  
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Eric Clapton
    dankind said:
    Hobbes said:
    2 of my top 3 did not make the top 10.

    1) Page
    2) Gilmour
    3) Young
    Same.

    My top 3

    1) Frusciante
    2) Hendrix
    3) Rhoads

    1 & 3 are/were amazing...I like those additions!
    Hobbesy, which Young? Angus? Malcom? Neil?
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,526
    Duane Allman
    brianlux said:
    Someone I'll add also as I think he gets better every time I see him is John Dwyer from Thee Oh Sees.  Dude has some serious sense of tone.

    I'm not much of a fan, but I have to give him credit for playing well under the duress of having such a short guitar strap.  If that thing was any shorter he would HAVE to play with his teeth! 
    Being a fan of Rodney on the ROQ and the Dead Kennedys as well as Dimascis I figured his style would fit nicely in for you?
    https://youtu.be/ENvavYYwFFc  Try this song out Brian.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,526
    Duane Allman
    I picked Allman because of his time on earth.

    I would have picked Townsend though then Richards.

    KR wrote memorable riffs?  He admittedly stole everything from blues records!
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    edited April 2021
    Eric Clapton
    I picked Allman because of his time on earth.

    I would have picked Townsend though then Richards.

    KR wrote memorable riffs?  He admittedly stole everything from blues records!
    Rhoads and Hendrix had short tenures on this mortal coil. Both are still in my top 3. And when I listen to them, they're easily number 1 at that moment.

    Nothing stops me in my tracks and demands all of my attention like Frusciante, though. I basically just fucking space out like the "Desperado" weirdo on Seinfeld when I play Frusciante.

    RE: Keith, you know Jimmy Page's nickname among his cohort, yes? Difference being that he will never own up to it.
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,526
    Duane Allman
    dankind said:
    I picked Allman because of his time on earth.

    I would have picked Townsend though then Richards.

    KR wrote memorable riffs?  He admittedly stole everything from blues records!
    Rhoads and Hendrix had short tenures on this mortal coil. Both are still in my top 3. And when I listen to them, they're easily number 1 at that moment.

    Nothing stops me in my tracks and demands all of my attention like Frusciante, though. I basically just fucking space out like the "Desperado" weirdo on Seinfeld when I play Frusciante.

    RE: Keith, you know Jimmy Page's nickname among his cohort, yes? Difference being that he will never own up to it.
    Hendrix, unlike Allman had a completely different type of sound.  

    Allman could play just like Randy could play but they didn't offer anything truly different like say EVH and Morello did.  I keep on forgetting to mention Les Paul.  If not for him no one would have been playing these 'electric twangers'.
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Eric Clapton
    dankind said:
    I picked Allman because of his time on earth.

    I would have picked Townsend though then Richards.

    KR wrote memorable riffs?  He admittedly stole everything from blues records!
    Rhoads and Hendrix had short tenures on this mortal coil. Both are still in my top 3. And when I listen to them, they're easily number 1 at that moment.

    Nothing stops me in my tracks and demands all of my attention like Frusciante, though. I basically just fucking space out like the "Desperado" weirdo on Seinfeld when I play Frusciante.

    RE: Keith, you know Jimmy Page's nickname among his cohort, yes? Difference being that he will never own up to it.
    Hendrix, unlike Allman had a completely different type of sound.  

    Allman could play just like Randy could play but they didn't offer anything truly different like say EVH and Morello did.  I keep on forgetting to mention Les Paul.  If not for him no one would have been playing these 'electric twangers'.
    You're so wrong about Rhoads. But that's OK, you're wrong about so much.

    Saw Les Paul every chance I got when I lived in NYC. Every birthday show, for sure! Crazy who would show up to jam at those things.

    I remember Slash being an absolute beast at one and my wife being upset that she skipped the show. (Slash is her favorite guitarist/sex  fantasy.)

    If there's video out there of these shows, check them out. 
    I SAW PEARL JAM
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