America's Gun Violence

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,416
  • gimmesometruth27
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    honest question. why was he not shot dead? police kill unarmed people all the time. but this guy gets to walk out of there. i am so fucking sick of it.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,416
    edited March 2021
    Not confirmed yet but supposedly 6 dead including a police officer.
    Hope its not anyone I know

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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    edited March 2021
    'Thoughts and Prayers'

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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    edited March 2021
    honest question. why was he not shot dead? police kill unarmed people all the time. but this guy gets to walk out of there. i am so fucking sick of it.
    It seems like these often either end in suicide or without incident. Like the Aurora theater shooter, was found unarmed by his car awaiting police I believe. I don’t know if that is what happened here, but if it is, you can’t expect police to go shoot someone in the head no matter what they just did.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    And well, domestic abusers should have access to firearms, right? Its the "responsible" thing to do because someone who hits their partner, certainly wouldn't shoot them, right? From NYT:

    • The House voted to renew the Violence Against Women Act. Senate Republicans object to new provisions that would make it harder for domestic abusers to buy guns.
    I would agree with this taken into context just the way it is.  There must be more red tape attached to it though?

    Once something gets written into law it is really hard to undo it and I'm pretty sure that is what the big picture is about.  Shitty answer and not what you want to hear, I will look further into it.
    I want less red tape as much as the next guy.
    However, when it comes to buying guns there has to be a way to curtail the impulse buying. The depressed or the pissed off or need to rob a bank type of people need to have brakes put on their ability to walk into a store and walk out with a gun.
    Or go to a gun show or any other legit means of purchasing a firearm.
    Impulse buying.  I am going to ask how many crimes are committed from Impulse buying?  As for a waiting period I don't have a problem but I would like to keep person to person sales legal.
    i would tend to agree. Most of these, I'd argue, are planned over the course of several days to weeks to months, depending on the incident. I don't know if I've heard of any of these mass shooting sprees that started with a guy walking into a gun shop and the same day the spree happens. 
    You mean like the Asian shooter?
    yes. I didn't know when I posted that, and since corrected myself, that that is exactly what happened. I still say it's not the norm, but I was surprised to learn that it happened right around when I made that comment. 

    i'm not against waiting periods to make sure all the proper checks are done. i was just saying I didn't know how effective it was at "cooling down" a potential incident. 

    now I know. 
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,416
    Boulder up to 10 killed including the police officer
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,408
    mace1229 said:
    honest question. why was he not shot dead? police kill unarmed people all the time. but this guy gets to walk out of there. i am so fucking sick of it.
    It seems like these often either end in suicide or without incident. Like the Aurora theater shooter, was found unarmed by his car awaiting police I believe. I don’t know if that is what happened here, but if it is, you can’t expect police to go shoot someone in the head no matter what they just did.

    tell that to the black community
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,604
    Hey he had a bad day cut the guy some slack, haven’t any of you had a bad day and just got your rifle and take out the folks who were responsible for your bad day? 
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  • Merkin Baller
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,405
    It was kind of nice while it lasted. At least covid had kept mass shootings down, but it's back to business as usual. It's only a matter of time before there's a school shooting now.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    A mass shooting in Colorado and a mass shooting a week earlier ... things are back to normal in the good USA.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    edited March 2021
    mickeyrat said:
    mace1229 said:
    honest question. why was he not shot dead? police kill unarmed people all the time. but this guy gets to walk out of there. i am so fucking sick of it.
    It seems like these often either end in suicide or without incident. Like the Aurora theater shooter, was found unarmed by his car awaiting police I believe. I don’t know if that is what happened here, but if it is, you can’t expect police to go shoot someone in the head no matter what they just did.

    tell that to the black community
    Can you share a story where a black person , while sitting quietly, was shot in t head? That was the question here, why was he not shot in the head. Every incident of an unarmed black man getting killed was escalated through resisting arrest. That doesn’t mean it was okay or that I’m defending the police in those cases. Just saying there’s a difference between that and someone like James Holmes who sat quietly and awaited arrest.
    I don’t know what happened here, the last press conference I heard the police wouldn’t even say if the shooter was injured or not. And my response was based on previous shooters who gave themselves up before police even arrived. If you can provide a single story where instead of trying to make an arrest that lead to a struggle, the police just shot a black man in the head without an incident then I’m wrong here.
    But if this shooter had given himself up, black or white, you can’t honestly expect police to just walk up and shoot him in the head at the scene as was suggested.
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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Tamir Rice was just playing in the park, and an officer exited his vehicle for what seems less than five seconds and murdered the child at pretty much point blank range. 

    I don’t think Tamir Rice was old enough to even know what the words “resisting arrest” mean. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,361
    dankind said:
    Tamir Rice was just playing in the park, and an officer exited his vehicle for what seems less than five seconds and murdered the child at pretty much point blank range. 

    I don’t think Tamir Rice was old enough to even know what the words “resisting arrest” mean. 
    Didn't that kid have what looked like a real gun though?  I wouldn't say it was for no reason.  It ended up being the wrong reason.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    dankind said:
    Tamir Rice was just playing in the park, and an officer exited his vehicle for what seems less than five seconds and murdered the child at pretty much point blank range. 

    I don’t think Tamir Rice was old enough to even know what the words “resisting arrest” mean. 
    Also this.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Philando_Castile

    And these are just the ones we have video of. 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,604
    Simple enough fix do all your shopping on line curbside pick up, no more going to supermarket or malls besides all the C19 anti vaccine idiots it’s best to just stay away from humans at all costs lol what a great country it once was! But don’t kneel for the precious anthem 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Simple enough fix do all your shopping on line curbside pick up, no more going to supermarket or malls besides all the C19 anti vaccine idiots it’s best to just stay away from humans at all costs lol what a great country it once was! But don’t kneel for the precious anthem 
    Just stay at home...

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