America's Gun Violence

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,071
    i had a bad day yesterday, but know what i didn't do?

    buy a fucking gun and murder 8 people because of it.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,159
    Another “responsible” gun owner. From Tejas no less.

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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,402
    edited March 2021
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    F’n gold. 



    Did they buy him Arby's and not kneel on his neck? Shocker.
    Maybe the BK drive through on the way to booking? 

    It wouldn't be a first. 
    Especially from this guy.

    8:27 p.m.

    Sheriff spokesperson who said suspect had ‘bad day’ posted racist shirt blaming China for covid-19
    The Georgia sheriff’s spokesman who said a man accused of killing eight people, including six women of Asian descent, had “a bad day” came under fire on Wednesday after reports of an anti-Asian T-shirt design posted on his Facebook page.

    At a news conference, Cherokee County Sheriff’s Office Capt. Jay Baker said that the alleged killer, Robert Aaron Long, told investigators he was not motivated by racism but rather his “sex addiction.”
    “Yesterday was a really bad day for him, and this is what he did,” Baker said, comments that drew criticism online from people who said his remarks downplayed the fatal shootings.

    After the news conference, Internet sleuths and journalists discovered Baker’s post, fueling discourse about bias in law enforcement. Concern about racism within police ranks has grown with an uptick in videos showing police brutality against Black Americans and racial justice protesters over the summer.

    In March and April, Baker posted photos of a graphic shirt that blamed China for the coronavirus pandemic, an accusation that advocacy groups say has incited a surge in violence and prejudice against Asian Americans.

    “Covid 19,” the shirt reads in a font resembling the logo of the Corona beer, “IMPORTED VIRUS FROM CHY-NA.”


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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i had a bad day yesterday, but know what i didn't do?

    buy a fucking gun and murder 8 people because of it.
    You overachieved for the day, congrats.

    I too did not reach into the safe to grab my AK, so, today was a good day.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,773
    It’s the same old story, same old song & daaaaaaaaance, my friend. 


  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Merkin Baller said:
    It’s the same old story, same old song & daaaaaaaaance, my friend. 


    The church I can see as a hate crime, I am just about to delve into the recent one here in NY.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,773
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    It’s the same old story, same old song & daaaaaaaaance, my friend. 


    The church I can see as a hate crime, I am just about to delve into the recent one here in NY.
    It's going to be fun watching people try to suggest that the shooter who targeted Asian spas wasn't targeting Asians. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Merkin Baller said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    It’s the same old story, same old song & daaaaaaaaance, my friend. 


    The church I can see as a hate crime, I am just about to delve into the recent one here in NY.
    It's going to be fun watching people try to suggest that the shooter who targeted Asian spas wasn't targeting Asians. 
    I will say this, do you know of any other ethnic group that constantly gets shut down for having "sex shops"?  here in NY it is always Asian spas.  One goes down and 1 goes up.  Can't remember the last time I ever saw a "Turkish spa"?

    Throwing that in to the conversation ring only because I can see how it might not be racially motivated, but looking at it the optics aren't good.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,159
    And well, domestic abusers should have access to firearms, right? Its the "responsible" thing to do because someone who hits their partner, certainly wouldn't shoot them, right? From NYT:

    • The House voted to renew the Violence Against Women Act. Senate Republicans object to new provisions that would make it harder for domestic abusers to buy guns.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And well, domestic abusers should have access to firearms, right? Its the "responsible" thing to do because someone who hits their partner, certainly wouldn't shoot them, right? From NYT:

    • The House voted to renew the Violence Against Women Act. Senate Republicans object to new provisions that would make it harder for domestic abusers to buy guns.
    I would agree with this taken into context just the way it is.  There must be more red tape attached to it though?

    Once something gets written into law it is really hard to undo it and I'm pretty sure that is what the big picture is about.  Shitty answer and not what you want to hear, I will look further into it.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,411
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And well, domestic abusers should have access to firearms, right? Its the "responsible" thing to do because someone who hits their partner, certainly wouldn't shoot them, right? From NYT:

    • The House voted to renew the Violence Against Women Act. Senate Republicans object to new provisions that would make it harder for domestic abusers to buy guns.
    I would agree with this taken into context just the way it is.  There must be more red tape attached to it though?

    Once something gets written into law it is really hard to undo it and I'm pretty sure that is what the big picture is about.  Shitty answer and not what you want to hear, I will look further into it.
    I want less red tape as much as the next guy.
    However, when it comes to buying guns there has to be a way to curtail the impulse buying. The depressed or the pissed off or need to rob a bank type of people need to have brakes put on their ability to walk into a store and walk out with a gun.
    Or go to a gun show or any other legit means of purchasing a firearm.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,773

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Bentleyspop said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And well, domestic abusers should have access to firearms, right? Its the "responsible" thing to do because someone who hits their partner, certainly wouldn't shoot them, right? From NYT:

    • The House voted to renew the Violence Against Women Act. Senate Republicans object to new provisions that would make it harder for domestic abusers to buy guns.
    I would agree with this taken into context just the way it is.  There must be more red tape attached to it though?

    Once something gets written into law it is really hard to undo it and I'm pretty sure that is what the big picture is about.  Shitty answer and not what you want to hear, I will look further into it.
    I want less red tape as much as the next guy.
    However, when it comes to buying guns there has to be a way to curtail the impulse buying. The depressed or the pissed off or need to rob a bank type of people need to have brakes put on their ability to walk into a store and walk out with a gun.
    Or go to a gun show or any other legit means of purchasing a firearm.
    Impulse buying.  I am going to ask how many crimes are committed from Impulse buying?  As for a waiting period I don't have a problem but I would like to keep person to person sales legal.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And well, domestic abusers should have access to firearms, right? Its the "responsible" thing to do because someone who hits their partner, certainly wouldn't shoot them, right? From NYT:

    • The House voted to renew the Violence Against Women Act. Senate Republicans object to new provisions that would make it harder for domestic abusers to buy guns.
    I would agree with this taken into context just the way it is.  There must be more red tape attached to it though?

    Once something gets written into law it is really hard to undo it and I'm pretty sure that is what the big picture is about.  Shitty answer and not what you want to hear, I will look further into it.
    I want less red tape as much as the next guy.
    However, when it comes to buying guns there has to be a way to curtail the impulse buying. The depressed or the pissed off or need to rob a bank type of people need to have brakes put on their ability to walk into a store and walk out with a gun.
    Or go to a gun show or any other legit means of purchasing a firearm.
    Impulse buying.  I am going to ask how many crimes are committed from Impulse buying?  As for a waiting period I don't have a problem but I would like to keep person to person sales legal.
    i would tend to agree. Most of these, I'd argue, are planned over the course of several days to weeks to months, depending on the incident. I don't know if I've heard of any of these mass shooting sprees that started with a guy walking into a gun shop and the same day the spree happens. 
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  • mickeyrat
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And well, domestic abusers should have access to firearms, right? Its the "responsible" thing to do because someone who hits their partner, certainly wouldn't shoot them, right? From NYT:

    • The House voted to renew the Violence Against Women Act. Senate Republicans object to new provisions that would make it harder for domestic abusers to buy guns.
    I would agree with this taken into context just the way it is.  There must be more red tape attached to it though?

    Once something gets written into law it is really hard to undo it and I'm pretty sure that is what the big picture is about.  Shitty answer and not what you want to hear, I will look further into it.
    I want less red tape as much as the next guy.
    However, when it comes to buying guns there has to be a way to curtail the impulse buying. The depressed or the pissed off or need to rob a bank type of people need to have brakes put on their ability to walk into a store and walk out with a gun.
    Or go to a gun show or any other legit means of purchasing a firearm.
    Impulse buying.  I am going to ask how many crimes are committed from Impulse buying?  As for a waiting period I don't have a problem but I would like to keep person to person sales legal.

    sure, with backround check and a record of the sale filed....
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,411
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And well, domestic abusers should have access to firearms, right? Its the "responsible" thing to do because someone who hits their partner, certainly wouldn't shoot them, right? From NYT:

    • The House voted to renew the Violence Against Women Act. Senate Republicans object to new provisions that would make it harder for domestic abusers to buy guns.
    I would agree with this taken into context just the way it is.  There must be more red tape attached to it though?

    Once something gets written into law it is really hard to undo it and I'm pretty sure that is what the big picture is about.  Shitty answer and not what you want to hear, I will look further into it.
    I want less red tape as much as the next guy.
    However, when it comes to buying guns there has to be a way to curtail the impulse buying. The depressed or the pissed off or need to rob a bank type of people need to have brakes put on their ability to walk into a store and walk out with a gun.
    Or go to a gun show or any other legit means of purchasing a firearm.
    Impulse buying.  I am going to ask how many crimes are committed from Impulse buying?  As for a waiting period I don't have a problem but I would like to keep person to person sales legal.
    i would tend to agree. Most of these, I'd argue, are planned over the course of several days to weeks to months, depending on the incident. I don't know if I've heard of any of these mass shooting sprees that started with a guy walking into a gun shop and the same day the spree happens. 
    This is true. But Im not referring to the spree, serial, or mass murderer.
    What about the super depressed person looking to end their own life? Maybe while there is a background check going on they rethink their decision.
    Or the person pissed off at their boss or neighbor or wife/husband? Maybe the background check time. is a cool off time.
    Or maybe the person just shouldn't be owning a gun and the background check alerts authorities.
    A lot of guns end up in the wrong hands. I would like to think that well done background checks would alleviate some of that.

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Bentleyspop said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And well, domestic abusers should have access to firearms, right? Its the "responsible" thing to do because someone who hits their partner, certainly wouldn't shoot them, right? From NYT:

    • The House voted to renew the Violence Against Women Act. Senate Republicans object to new provisions that would make it harder for domestic abusers to buy guns.
    I would agree with this taken into context just the way it is.  There must be more red tape attached to it though?

    Once something gets written into law it is really hard to undo it and I'm pretty sure that is what the big picture is about.  Shitty answer and not what you want to hear, I will look further into it.
    I want less red tape as much as the next guy.
    However, when it comes to buying guns there has to be a way to curtail the impulse buying. The depressed or the pissed off or need to rob a bank type of people need to have brakes put on their ability to walk into a store and walk out with a gun.
    Or go to a gun show or any other legit means of purchasing a firearm.
    Impulse buying.  I am going to ask how many crimes are committed from Impulse buying?  As for a waiting period I don't have a problem but I would like to keep person to person sales legal.
    i would tend to agree. Most of these, I'd argue, are planned over the course of several days to weeks to months, depending on the incident. I don't know if I've heard of any of these mass shooting sprees that started with a guy walking into a gun shop and the same day the spree happens. 
    This is true. But Im not referring to the spree, serial, or mass murderer.
    What about the super depressed person looking to end their own life? Maybe while there is a background check going on they rethink their decision.
    Or the person pissed off at their boss or neighbor or wife/husband? Maybe the background check time. is a cool off time.
    Or maybe the person just shouldn't be owning a gun and the background check alerts authorities.
    A lot of guns end up in the wrong hands. I would like to think that well done background checks would alleviate some of that.

    yes, I support back ground checks 100%. I just don't know how much impulse buying goes in these scenarios. sounds like something out of a movie.  do people rob banks on impulse? Or just on horseback? do people rob banks anymore?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Well, we now know of at least one, one too many, sadly. Atlanta shooter bought the gun the day of. ‘Murica.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Well, we now know of at least one, one too many, sadly. Atlanta shooter bought the gun the day of. ‘Murica.
    did he really? wow. ok, consider myself corrected. 
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,411
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Well, we now know of at least one, one too many, sadly. Atlanta shooter bought the gun the day of. ‘Murica.
    did he really? wow. ok, consider myself corrected. 

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