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Bob Dylan, 'Blood on the Tracks'rgambs said:tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:brianlux said:rgambs said:tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:So I just listened to Pet Sounds all the way through to make sure I was giving it a fair assessment. Only heard most of it once or twice and was never very impressed. Yeah, I stand by that. I don't think it's a bad record, and I get how experimental it was, but I don't think it belongs even in the top ten. The melodies are scattershot, unimpressive, and not at all memorable. Experimenting is fine, but experiment with a melody worthy of experimentation. The only song that stands out is the only one that's still in Beach Boys rotation, Wouldn't It Be Nice. The lyrics were ok, but only in substance and not in style. I didn't catch any clever turns of phrase or metaphors that grabbed me. This may be a great record in it's ambition, but in execution it really seems pretty average.
I really don't understand how anyone could match Pet Sounds against anything after Hard Day's Night from the Beatles, it's just not even a competition. It makes me wonder if it's just classic hating on the beloved? Gotta root for the underdog?I'll bet you'd have to survey 1000 people on the street to find a single one who could hum a tune from Pet Sounds, if you exclude Wouldn't It Be Nice. There isn't a hook to be found.I think a lot of people would know "Good only Knows" and "Sloop John B." But basing greatness on a simple hook or being able to hum a tune? That makes an album great? How much of A Love Supreme or Kind of Blue can the average person hum? I can hum some themes from both, but the average Jane or Joe on the street? No way. And without question, those are also truly great albums. I'm a bit surprised at your standard for assessment.
One of the biggest aspects of music (and all art) is it's ability to move people's hearts and lodge in their minds. My reaction to obscure art is to wonder why, if it's so great, have I never heard of it? Why didn't it move the needle enough to reach me?tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:So I just listened to Pet Sounds all the way through to make sure I was giving it a fair assessment. Only heard most of it once or twice and was never very impressed. Yeah, I stand by that. I don't think it's a bad record, and I get how experimental it was, but I don't think it belongs even in the top ten. The melodies are scattershot, unimpressive, and not at all memorable. Experimenting is fine, but experiment with a melody worthy of experimentation. The only song that stands out is the only one that's still in Beach Boys rotation, Wouldn't It Be Nice. The lyrics were ok, but only in substance and not in style. I didn't catch any clever turns of phrase or metaphors that grabbed me. This may be a great record in it's ambition, but in execution it really seems pretty average.
I really don't understand how anyone could match Pet Sounds against anything after Hard Day's Night from the Beatles, it's just not even a competition. It makes me wonder if it's just classic hating on the beloved? Gotta root for the underdog?I'll bet you'd have to survey 1000 people on the street to find a single one who could hum a tune from Pet Sounds, if you exclude Wouldn't It Be Nice. There isn't a hook to be found.
I will say that yes most people will know Wouldn't it be nice. Music enthusiasts like this.
Sloop John B will not last centuries in the hearts of mankind, quite a few Beatles songs almost certainly will.
Don't get me wrong, popularity isn't everything. Lil' Nas X dominated the charts for a record time, but history will not remember him lolIt's a hopeless situation...0 -
The Beatles, 'Abbey Road'This was a really hard decision. I love both the Beatles and Bob Dylan. I love the Beatles more, but Abbey Road is not my favorite Beatles album, while Blood on the Tracks is my favorite Dylan album.
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Bob Dylan, 'Blood on the Tracks'tbergs said:rgambs said:tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:brianlux said:rgambs said:tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:So I just listened to Pet Sounds all the way through to make sure I was giving it a fair assessment. Only heard most of it once or twice and was never very impressed. Yeah, I stand by that. I don't think it's a bad record, and I get how experimental it was, but I don't think it belongs even in the top ten. The melodies are scattershot, unimpressive, and not at all memorable. Experimenting is fine, but experiment with a melody worthy of experimentation. The only song that stands out is the only one that's still in Beach Boys rotation, Wouldn't It Be Nice. The lyrics were ok, but only in substance and not in style. I didn't catch any clever turns of phrase or metaphors that grabbed me. This may be a great record in it's ambition, but in execution it really seems pretty average.
I really don't understand how anyone could match Pet Sounds against anything after Hard Day's Night from the Beatles, it's just not even a competition. It makes me wonder if it's just classic hating on the beloved? Gotta root for the underdog?I'll bet you'd have to survey 1000 people on the street to find a single one who could hum a tune from Pet Sounds, if you exclude Wouldn't It Be Nice. There isn't a hook to be found.I think a lot of people would know "Good only Knows" and "Sloop John B." But basing greatness on a simple hook or being able to hum a tune? That makes an album great? How much of A Love Supreme or Kind of Blue can the average person hum? I can hum some themes from both, but the average Jane or Joe on the street? No way. And without question, those are also truly great albums. I'm a bit surprised at your standard for assessment.
One of the biggest aspects of music (and all art) is it's ability to move people's hearts and lodge in their minds. My reaction to obscure art is to wonder why, if it's so great, have I never heard of it? Why didn't it move the needle enough to reach me?tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:So I just listened to Pet Sounds all the way through to make sure I was giving it a fair assessment. Only heard most of it once or twice and was never very impressed. Yeah, I stand by that. I don't think it's a bad record, and I get how experimental it was, but I don't think it belongs even in the top ten. The melodies are scattershot, unimpressive, and not at all memorable. Experimenting is fine, but experiment with a melody worthy of experimentation. The only song that stands out is the only one that's still in Beach Boys rotation, Wouldn't It Be Nice. The lyrics were ok, but only in substance and not in style. I didn't catch any clever turns of phrase or metaphors that grabbed me. This may be a great record in it's ambition, but in execution it really seems pretty average.
I really don't understand how anyone could match Pet Sounds against anything after Hard Day's Night from the Beatles, it's just not even a competition. It makes me wonder if it's just classic hating on the beloved? Gotta root for the underdog?I'll bet you'd have to survey 1000 people on the street to find a single one who could hum a tune from Pet Sounds, if you exclude Wouldn't It Be Nice. There isn't a hook to be found.
I will say that yes most people will know Wouldn't it be nice. Music enthusiasts like this.
Sloop John B will not last centuries in the hearts of mankind, quite a few Beatles songs almost certainly will.
Don't get me wrong, popularity isn't everything. Lil' Nas X dominated the charts for a record time, but history will not remember him lolMonkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Bob Dylan, 'Blood on the Tracks'rgambs said:tbergs said:rgambs said:tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:brianlux said:rgambs said:tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:So I just listened to Pet Sounds all the way through to make sure I was giving it a fair assessment. Only heard most of it once or twice and was never very impressed. Yeah, I stand by that. I don't think it's a bad record, and I get how experimental it was, but I don't think it belongs even in the top ten. The melodies are scattershot, unimpressive, and not at all memorable. Experimenting is fine, but experiment with a melody worthy of experimentation. The only song that stands out is the only one that's still in Beach Boys rotation, Wouldn't It Be Nice. The lyrics were ok, but only in substance and not in style. I didn't catch any clever turns of phrase or metaphors that grabbed me. This may be a great record in it's ambition, but in execution it really seems pretty average.
I really don't understand how anyone could match Pet Sounds against anything after Hard Day's Night from the Beatles, it's just not even a competition. It makes me wonder if it's just classic hating on the beloved? Gotta root for the underdog?I'll bet you'd have to survey 1000 people on the street to find a single one who could hum a tune from Pet Sounds, if you exclude Wouldn't It Be Nice. There isn't a hook to be found.I think a lot of people would know "Good only Knows" and "Sloop John B." But basing greatness on a simple hook or being able to hum a tune? That makes an album great? How much of A Love Supreme or Kind of Blue can the average person hum? I can hum some themes from both, but the average Jane or Joe on the street? No way. And without question, those are also truly great albums. I'm a bit surprised at your standard for assessment.
One of the biggest aspects of music (and all art) is it's ability to move people's hearts and lodge in their minds. My reaction to obscure art is to wonder why, if it's so great, have I never heard of it? Why didn't it move the needle enough to reach me?tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:So I just listened to Pet Sounds all the way through to make sure I was giving it a fair assessment. Only heard most of it once or twice and was never very impressed. Yeah, I stand by that. I don't think it's a bad record, and I get how experimental it was, but I don't think it belongs even in the top ten. The melodies are scattershot, unimpressive, and not at all memorable. Experimenting is fine, but experiment with a melody worthy of experimentation. The only song that stands out is the only one that's still in Beach Boys rotation, Wouldn't It Be Nice. The lyrics were ok, but only in substance and not in style. I didn't catch any clever turns of phrase or metaphors that grabbed me. This may be a great record in it's ambition, but in execution it really seems pretty average.
I really don't understand how anyone could match Pet Sounds against anything after Hard Day's Night from the Beatles, it's just not even a competition. It makes me wonder if it's just classic hating on the beloved? Gotta root for the underdog?I'll bet you'd have to survey 1000 people on the street to find a single one who could hum a tune from Pet Sounds, if you exclude Wouldn't It Be Nice. There isn't a hook to be found.
I will say that yes most people will know Wouldn't it be nice. Music enthusiasts like this.
Sloop John B will not last centuries in the hearts of mankind, quite a few Beatles songs almost certainly will.
Don't get me wrong, popularity isn't everything. Lil' Nas X dominated the charts for a record time, but history will not remember him lol
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Bob Dylan, 'Blood on the Tracks'I will proudly play William Hung to anyone whom will listen so posterity continues.0
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Bob Dylan, 'Blood on the Tracks'rgambs said:brianlux said:rgambs said:tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:So I just listened to Pet Sounds all the way through to make sure I was giving it a fair assessment. Only heard most of it once or twice and was never very impressed. Yeah, I stand by that. I don't think it's a bad record, and I get how experimental it was, but I don't think it belongs even in the top ten. The melodies are scattershot, unimpressive, and not at all memorable. Experimenting is fine, but experiment with a melody worthy of experimentation. The only song that stands out is the only one that's still in Beach Boys rotation, Wouldn't It Be Nice. The lyrics were ok, but only in substance and not in style. I didn't catch any clever turns of phrase or metaphors that grabbed me. This may be a great record in it's ambition, but in execution it really seems pretty average.
I really don't understand how anyone could match Pet Sounds against anything after Hard Day's Night from the Beatles, it's just not even a competition. It makes me wonder if it's just classic hating on the beloved? Gotta root for the underdog?I'll bet you'd have to survey 1000 people on the street to find a single one who could hum a tune from Pet Sounds, if you exclude Wouldn't It Be Nice. There isn't a hook to be found.I think a lot of people would know "Good only Knows" and "Sloop John B." But basing greatness on a simple hook or being able to hum a tune? That makes an album great? How much of A Love Supreme or Kind of Blue can the average person hum? I can hum some themes from both, but the average Jane or Joe on the street? No way. And without question, those are also truly great albums. I'm a bit surprised at your standard for assessment.
One of the biggest aspects of music (and all art) is it's ability to move people's hearts and lodge in their minds. My reaction to obscure art is to wonder why, if it's so great, have I never heard of it? Why didn't it move the needle enough to reach me?tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:So I just listened to Pet Sounds all the way through to make sure I was giving it a fair assessment. Only heard most of it once or twice and was never very impressed. Yeah, I stand by that. I don't think it's a bad record, and I get how experimental it was, but I don't think it belongs even in the top ten. The melodies are scattershot, unimpressive, and not at all memorable. Experimenting is fine, but experiment with a melody worthy of experimentation. The only song that stands out is the only one that's still in Beach Boys rotation, Wouldn't It Be Nice. The lyrics were ok, but only in substance and not in style. I didn't catch any clever turns of phrase or metaphors that grabbed me. This may be a great record in it's ambition, but in execution it really seems pretty average.
I really don't understand how anyone could match Pet Sounds against anything after Hard Day's Night from the Beatles, it's just not even a competition. It makes me wonder if it's just classic hating on the beloved? Gotta root for the underdog?I'll bet you'd have to survey 1000 people on the street to find a single one who could hum a tune from Pet Sounds, if you exclude Wouldn't It Be Nice. There isn't a hook to be found.
I will say that yes most people will know Wouldn't it be nice. Music enthusiasts like this.
Sloop John B will not last centuries in the hearts of mankind, quite a few Beatles songs almost certainly will.
Don't get me wrong, popularity isn't everything. Lil' Nas X dominated the charts for a record time, but history will not remember him lolDude, you don't chuckle at this? Perhaps because of who I live with (and another who used to live with us) I do hear a lot of the radio hits. This thing is funny as hell and an ear worm. Good hook.
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Bob Dylan, 'Blood on the Tracks'F Me In The Brain said:rgambs said:brianlux said:rgambs said:tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:So I just listened to Pet Sounds all the way through to make sure I was giving it a fair assessment. Only heard most of it once or twice and was never very impressed. Yeah, I stand by that. I don't think it's a bad record, and I get how experimental it was, but I don't think it belongs even in the top ten. The melodies are scattershot, unimpressive, and not at all memorable. Experimenting is fine, but experiment with a melody worthy of experimentation. The only song that stands out is the only one that's still in Beach Boys rotation, Wouldn't It Be Nice. The lyrics were ok, but only in substance and not in style. I didn't catch any clever turns of phrase or metaphors that grabbed me. This may be a great record in it's ambition, but in execution it really seems pretty average.
I really don't understand how anyone could match Pet Sounds against anything after Hard Day's Night from the Beatles, it's just not even a competition. It makes me wonder if it's just classic hating on the beloved? Gotta root for the underdog?I'll bet you'd have to survey 1000 people on the street to find a single one who could hum a tune from Pet Sounds, if you exclude Wouldn't It Be Nice. There isn't a hook to be found.I think a lot of people would know "Good only Knows" and "Sloop John B." But basing greatness on a simple hook or being able to hum a tune? That makes an album great? How much of A Love Supreme or Kind of Blue can the average person hum? I can hum some themes from both, but the average Jane or Joe on the street? No way. And without question, those are also truly great albums. I'm a bit surprised at your standard for assessment.
One of the biggest aspects of music (and all art) is it's ability to move people's hearts and lodge in their minds. My reaction to obscure art is to wonder why, if it's so great, have I never heard of it? Why didn't it move the needle enough to reach me?tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:So I just listened to Pet Sounds all the way through to make sure I was giving it a fair assessment. Only heard most of it once or twice and was never very impressed. Yeah, I stand by that. I don't think it's a bad record, and I get how experimental it was, but I don't think it belongs even in the top ten. The melodies are scattershot, unimpressive, and not at all memorable. Experimenting is fine, but experiment with a melody worthy of experimentation. The only song that stands out is the only one that's still in Beach Boys rotation, Wouldn't It Be Nice. The lyrics were ok, but only in substance and not in style. I didn't catch any clever turns of phrase or metaphors that grabbed me. This may be a great record in it's ambition, but in execution it really seems pretty average.
I really don't understand how anyone could match Pet Sounds against anything after Hard Day's Night from the Beatles, it's just not even a competition. It makes me wonder if it's just classic hating on the beloved? Gotta root for the underdog?I'll bet you'd have to survey 1000 people on the street to find a single one who could hum a tune from Pet Sounds, if you exclude Wouldn't It Be Nice. There isn't a hook to be found.
I will say that yes most people will know Wouldn't it be nice. Music enthusiasts like this.
Sloop John B will not last centuries in the hearts of mankind, quite a few Beatles songs almost certainly will.
Don't get me wrong, popularity isn't everything. Lil' Nas X dominated the charts for a record time, but history will not remember him lolDude, you don't chuckle at this? Perhaps because of who I live with (and another who used to live with us) I do hear a lot of the radio hits. This thing is funny as hell and an ear worm. Good hook.F Me In The Brain said:rgambs said:brianlux said:rgambs said:tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:So I just listened to Pet Sounds all the way through to make sure I was giving it a fair assessment. Only heard most of it once or twice and was never very impressed. Yeah, I stand by that. I don't think it's a bad record, and I get how experimental it was, but I don't think it belongs even in the top ten. The melodies are scattershot, unimpressive, and not at all memorable. Experimenting is fine, but experiment with a melody worthy of experimentation. The only song that stands out is the only one that's still in Beach Boys rotation, Wouldn't It Be Nice. The lyrics were ok, but only in substance and not in style. I didn't catch any clever turns of phrase or metaphors that grabbed me. This may be a great record in it's ambition, but in execution it really seems pretty average.
I really don't understand how anyone could match Pet Sounds against anything after Hard Day's Night from the Beatles, it's just not even a competition. It makes me wonder if it's just classic hating on the beloved? Gotta root for the underdog?I'll bet you'd have to survey 1000 people on the street to find a single one who could hum a tune from Pet Sounds, if you exclude Wouldn't It Be Nice. There isn't a hook to be found.I think a lot of people would know "Good only Knows" and "Sloop John B." But basing greatness on a simple hook or being able to hum a tune? That makes an album great? How much of A Love Supreme or Kind of Blue can the average person hum? I can hum some themes from both, but the average Jane or Joe on the street? No way. And without question, those are also truly great albums. I'm a bit surprised at your standard for assessment.
One of the biggest aspects of music (and all art) is it's ability to move people's hearts and lodge in their minds. My reaction to obscure art is to wonder why, if it's so great, have I never heard of it? Why didn't it move the needle enough to reach me?tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:tempo_n_groove said:rgambs said:So I just listened to Pet Sounds all the way through to make sure I was giving it a fair assessment. Only heard most of it once or twice and was never very impressed. Yeah, I stand by that. I don't think it's a bad record, and I get how experimental it was, but I don't think it belongs even in the top ten. The melodies are scattershot, unimpressive, and not at all memorable. Experimenting is fine, but experiment with a melody worthy of experimentation. The only song that stands out is the only one that's still in Beach Boys rotation, Wouldn't It Be Nice. The lyrics were ok, but only in substance and not in style. I didn't catch any clever turns of phrase or metaphors that grabbed me. This may be a great record in it's ambition, but in execution it really seems pretty average.
I really don't understand how anyone could match Pet Sounds against anything after Hard Day's Night from the Beatles, it's just not even a competition. It makes me wonder if it's just classic hating on the beloved? Gotta root for the underdog?I'll bet you'd have to survey 1000 people on the street to find a single one who could hum a tune from Pet Sounds, if you exclude Wouldn't It Be Nice. There isn't a hook to be found.
I will say that yes most people will know Wouldn't it be nice. Music enthusiasts like this.
Sloop John B will not last centuries in the hearts of mankind, quite a few Beatles songs almost certainly will.
Don't get me wrong, popularity isn't everything. Lil' Nas X dominated the charts for a record time, but history will not remember him lolDude, you don't chuckle at this? Perhaps because of who I live with (and another who used to live with us) I do hear a lot of the radio hits. This thing is funny as hell and an ear worm. Good hook.A little (lot) short on substance though lol
That's what makes greatness, IMO, substance and style together in harmony.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Bob Dylan, 'Blood on the Tracks'I just happened across this randomly, the last bit is perfect 😂😂
https://thehardtimes.net/blog/man-doesnt-like-beatles-hes-interesting-god-dont-just-want-fuck-him/
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Bob Dylan, 'Blood on the Tracks'rgambs said:I just happened across this randomly, the last bit is perfect 😂😂
https://thehardtimes.net/blog/man-doesnt-like-beatles-hes-interesting-god-dont-just-want-fuck-him/
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Bob Dylan, 'Blood on the Tracks'I think Google is stalking me again. Just linked this article for my reading leisure...
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/10-iconic-albums-that-initially-flopped/
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The Beatles, 'Abbey Road'I’ve still never heard “Old Town Road.” I’ve heard children sing it, I’ve heard snippets of it in commercial usage, but I’ve never actually heard the song all the way through. And I’m OK with that.
Huge respect for Lil Nas X, though.I SAW PEARL JAM0 -
Bob Dylan, 'Blood on the Tracks'dankind said:I’ve still never heard “Old Town Road.” I’ve heard children sing it, I’ve heard snippets of it in commercial usage, but I’ve never actually heard the song all the way through. And I’m OK with that.
Huge respect for Lil Nas X, though.Dude, watch that video ("movie") I posted.It is no Holiday, but it is funny as shit.The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
Bob Dylan, 'Blood on the Tracks'Bye Bob!www.cluthelee.com0
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Bob Dylan, 'Blood on the Tracks'My heart pumps "...Blue." Difficult task, a vote against Blood...0
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Athens 2006 / Milton Keynes 2014 / London 1&2 2022 / Seattle 1&2 2024 / Dublin 2024 / Manchester 2024 / New Orleans 20250
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And your winner is ABBEY ROAD. Thanks for playing.0
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