2025/2026 NBA Season October 22nd Opening Tip off! Pg 185

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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,627
    The Juggler said:
    I think PER is a solid estimator of the best players in basketball. Other than a few exceptions, this is a pretty good list



    you have no idea what PER means.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    Wobbie said:
    The Juggler said:
    I think PER is a solid estimator of the best players in basketball. Other than a few exceptions, this is a pretty good list



    you have no idea what PER means.
    Well it's measure of how efficient a player is, of course!

    Perhaps you are upset that Donovan "20-Shots-A-Game" Mitchell is ranked 53rd?
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  • RiotZact
    RiotZact Posts: 6,298
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    The Juggler said:
    I think PER is a solid estimator of the best players in basketball. Other than a few exceptions, this is a pretty good list



    you have no idea what PER means.
    Well it's measure of how efficient a player is, of course!

    Perhaps you are upset that Donovan "20-Shots-A-Game" Mitchell is ranked 53rd?
    If you would have told me before the season started that the Jazz were going to have their current record, I would have assumed that Mitchell had to have taken a giant leap to top 10 or even top 5 player in the NBA. The fact that they are playing this well without him being significantly better than last year is what really scares me. 
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,627
    RiotZact said:
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    The Juggler said:
    I think PER is a solid estimator of the best players in basketball. Other than a few exceptions, this is a pretty good list



    you have no idea what PER means.
    Well it's measure of how efficient a player is, of course!

    Perhaps you are upset that Donovan "20-Shots-A-Game" Mitchell is ranked 53rd?
    If you would have told me before the season started that the Jazz were going to have their current record, I would have assumed that Mitchell had to have taken a giant leap to top 10 or even top 5 player in the NBA. The fact that they are playing this well without him being significantly better than last year is what really scares me. 

    they have maybe 6 guys who might be their leading scorer on any given night.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    Wobbie said:
    RiotZact said:
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    The Juggler said:
    I think PER is a solid estimator of the best players in basketball. Other than a few exceptions, this is a pretty good list



    you have no idea what PER means.
    Well it's measure of how efficient a player is, of course!

    Perhaps you are upset that Donovan "20-Shots-A-Game" Mitchell is ranked 53rd?
    If you would have told me before the season started that the Jazz were going to have their current record, I would have assumed that Mitchell had to have taken a giant leap to top 10 or even top 5 player in the NBA. The fact that they are playing this well without him being significantly better than last year is what really scares me. 

    they have maybe 6 guys who might be their leading scorer on any given night.
    Mitchel might be the fourth best player on that team.
    www.myspace.com
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,031
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    RiotZact said:
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    The Juggler said:
    I think PER is a solid estimator of the best players in basketball. Other than a few exceptions, this is a pretty good list



    you have no idea what PER means.
    Well it's measure of how efficient a player is, of course!

    Perhaps you are upset that Donovan "20-Shots-A-Game" Mitchell is ranked 53rd?
    If you would have told me before the season started that the Jazz were going to have their current record, I would have assumed that Mitchell had to have taken a giant leap to top 10 or even top 5 player in the NBA. The fact that they are playing this well without him being significantly better than last year is what really scares me. 

    they have maybe 6 guys who might be their leading scorer on any given night.
    Mitchel might be the fourth best player on that team.
    And deservedly not a former rookie of the year.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,627
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    RiotZact said:
    The Juggler said:
    Wobbie said:
    The Juggler said:
    I think PER is a solid estimator of the best players in basketball. Other than a few exceptions, this is a pretty good list



    you have no idea what PER means.
    Well it's measure of how efficient a player is, of course!

    Perhaps you are upset that Donovan "20-Shots-A-Game" Mitchell is ranked 53rd?
    If you would have told me before the season started that the Jazz were going to have their current record, I would have assumed that Mitchell had to have taken a giant leap to top 10 or even top 5 player in the NBA. The fact that they are playing this well without him being significantly better than last year is what really scares me. 

    they have maybe 6 guys who might be their leading scorer on any given night.
    Mitchel might be the fourth best player on that team.

    nah. altho getting jordan clarkson, straight up for dante exum, was the steal of the century.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 20,198
    He is being prepared for the Space Jam??


    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,325
    ^^^I hate when players do that shit^^^


  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    cutz said:
    ^^^I hate when players do that shit^^^


    Nobody wants to put a body in front of him?
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    So I wanted to talk about the Nets.  I said "No way this will work".

    Well I'm going to eat those words.  The team apparently isn't all ball hoggish and found a way to play together.  Watching them all play is amazing.

    The Knicks are another surprising team that has learned to play together and will all play defense.  They are actually fun to watch also.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,031
    tempo_n_groove said:
    cutz said:
    ^^^I hate when players do that shit^^^


    Nobody wants to put a body in front of him?
    Shouldn't have to on such a blatant travel, ref should have blown the whistle.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    Poncier said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    cutz said:
    ^^^I hate when players do that shit^^^


    Nobody wants to put a body in front of him?
    Shouldn't have to on such a blatant travel, ref should have blown the whistle.
    I got 2 steps?  Is that right?  He technically was still in dribbling transition until he grabbed the ball and took his 2 steps.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,031
    He takes 2 after the last dribble, then grabs the ball and then takes 2 more.
    To me that's a travel.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    Poncier said:
    He takes 2 after the last dribble, then grabs the ball and then takes 2 more.
    To me that's a travel.
    He didn't technically stop dribbling during those first 2 steps.  That will never get called.
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 20,198
    tempo_n_groove said:
    So I wanted to talk about the Nets.  I said "No way this will work".

    Well I'm going to eat those words.  The team apparently isn't all ball hoggish and found a way to play together.  Watching them all play is amazing.

    The Knicks are another surprising team that has learned to play together and will all play defense.  They are actually fun to watch also.
    Told you about Knicks, they play better every night..
    the Nets, if Harden keep passing like this, they have future..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,031
    I mean its absurd.
    The last time the ball hits the floor is in the center court circle, and he dunks, yet doesn't travel.
    The bending/interpretation of the traveling rule has gotten ludicrous.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    23scidoo said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    So I wanted to talk about the Nets.  I said "No way this will work".

    Well I'm going to eat those words.  The team apparently isn't all ball hoggish and found a way to play together.  Watching them all play is amazing.

    The Knicks are another surprising team that has learned to play together and will all play defense.  They are actually fun to watch also.
    Told you about Knicks, they play better every night..
    the Nets, if Harden keep passing like this, they have future..
    I live in NY so I know all about them.  I have also mentioned that if they make the playoffs they will be an early exit too.

    Spot on with Harden and passing.  he and Kyrie discussed their roles and it really does work, now if they learn to play better D?  Would be very interesting.

    Everyone that is high on the Jazz needs to pump the brakes too.  Come playoff time this team isn't really built to go to a finals.

    I think the days of the little engine that could type of Detroit team from the early 2000's and win a chip are gone.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    tempo_n_groove said:
    23scidoo said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    So I wanted to talk about the Nets.  I said "No way this will work".

    Well I'm going to eat those words.  The team apparently isn't all ball hoggish and found a way to play together.  Watching them all play is amazing.

    The Knicks are another surprising team that has learned to play together and will all play defense.  They are actually fun to watch also.
    Told you about Knicks, they play better every night..
    the Nets, if Harden keep passing like this, they have future..
    I live in NY so I know all about them.  I have also mentioned that if they make the playoffs they will be an early exit too.

    Spot on with Harden and passing.  he and Kyrie discussed their roles and it really does work, now if they learn to play better D?  Would be very interesting.

    Everyone that is high on the Jazz needs to pump the brakes too.  Come playoff time this team isn't really built to go to a finals.

    I think the days of the little engine that could type of Detroit team from the early 2000's and win a chip are gone.
    But there have never been "days of little engines that could's." Detroit was just the exception to the rule. 

    Utah is real good. Everyone on that team can shoot and Goebert is one of the best defenders in the league. I think they have a shot. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Poncier said:
    He takes 2 after the last dribble, then grabs the ball and then takes 2 more.
    To me that's a travel.
    He didn't technically stop dribbling during those first 2 steps.  That will never get called.
    I think I agree. He picked up his dribble right outside of the 3 pt line and then took 2 more giant steps. The steps whilst dribble were enormous as well. 
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