#46 President Joe Biden

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

cincybearcat said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Stimulus checks

I have no problem with them lowering the income level to $50,000-$100,000 as far as which individuals/families receive this money. Anyone who has been working all along since the pandemic started, and has not suffered financially because of this pandemic, really doesnt need the stimulus checks to begin with, right? My wife and I have not skipped a beat since the pandemic started. We realize we are blessed in that regard. Did her and I really need those 1st 2 stimulus checks? Of course not. 

Now lets hope our government uses some common sense in regards to sending these checks out. If someone made $52K in 2019 yet was laid off for the entire year of 2020, then by all means give this person some help! I dont want to hear that they are going to base these checks on your 2019 tax returns. That would be fucking ridiculous. That would be asinine. That would be fucking insane. 

Which probably means our government will base the stimulus checks on our 2019 tax returns. 

I read it did screw some people for the checks...but I cannot find the article again so it was likely not very many people. 

How our government handled this pandemic has been an outright tragedy. Mortgage relief? Eviction relief? Sending $1800 to someone, over the last year, who has lost their job, yet owns a house, is just a shame. And not giving millions of people any true mortgage relief is a shame. Yes, some mortgage lenders(CERTAINLY NOT ALL), gave people a 3-6 month grace period, and allowed people to throw mortgage payments on the back end of their loans, and that did help some folks at 1st. No doubt. But now its been an entire year, and where are those people sitting now? True mortgage and eviction relief was not addressed. And its been a year. $1800 to people in need, over the last year, is just ridiculous. Sending people who never suffered due to the pandemic the same $1800 last year, is just PURE STUPIDITY AND A WASTE.


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Gern Blansten said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

cincybearcat said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Stimulus checks

I have no problem with them lowering the income level to $50,000-$100,000 as far as which individuals/families receive this money. Anyone who has been working all along since the pandemic started, and has not suffered financially because of this pandemic, really doesnt need the stimulus checks to begin with, right? My wife and I have not skipped a beat since the pandemic started. We realize we are blessed in that regard. Did her and I really need those 1st 2 stimulus checks? Of course not. 

Now lets hope our government uses some common sense in regards to sending these checks out. If someone made $52K in 2019 yet was laid off for the entire year of 2020, then by all means give this person some help! I dont want to hear that they are going to base these checks on your 2019 tax returns. That would be fucking ridiculous. That would be asinine. That would be fucking insane. 

Which probably means our government will base the stimulus checks on our 2019 tax returns. 

I read it did screw some people for the checks...but I cannot find the article again so it was likely not very many people. 

How our government handled this pandemic has been an outright tragedy. Mortgage relief? Eviction relief? Sending $1800 to someone, over the last year, who has lost their job, yet owns a house, is just a shame. And not giving millions of people any true mortgage relief is a shame. Yes, some mortgage lenders(CERTAINLY NOT ALL), gave people a 3-6 month grace period, and allowed people to throw mortgage payments on the back end of their loans, and that did help some folks at 1st. No doubt. But now its been an entire year, and where are those people sitting now? True mortgage and eviction relief was not addressed. And its been a year. $1800 to people in need, over the last year, is just ridiculous. Sending people who never suffered due to the pandemic the same $1800 last year, is just PURE STUPIDITY AND A WASTE.


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You wouldn't believe the shit I've seen.  I have two different clients that collectively received around $600K in PPP funding that they did not need.  

Their businesses were basically unaffected in 2020.  And now the GOP is bitching that people making $75K/year might not need $2,000?  

It's fucking bullshit.

Merkin Baller said:

mrussel1 said:

Considering Trump was president the day he died, do you think he did anything close to visiting or offering condolences?

trump didn't order the White House flag to half mast until Sunday. 

Officer Sicknick died on Thursday. 



Blue Lives Matter (until they don't) 

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Gern Blansten said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

cincybearcat said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Stimulus checks

I have no problem with them lowering the income level to $50,000-$100,000 as far as which individuals/families receive this money. Anyone who has been working all along since the pandemic started, and has not suffered financially because of this pandemic, really doesnt need the stimulus checks to begin with, right? My wife and I have not skipped a beat since the pandemic started. We realize we are blessed in that regard. Did her and I really need those 1st 2 stimulus checks? Of course not. 

Now lets hope our government uses some common sense in regards to sending these checks out. If someone made $52K in 2019 yet was laid off for the entire year of 2020, then by all means give this person some help! I dont want to hear that they are going to base these checks on your 2019 tax returns. That would be fucking ridiculous. That would be asinine. That would be fucking insane. 

Which probably means our government will base the stimulus checks on our 2019 tax returns. 

I read it did screw some people for the checks...but I cannot find the article again so it was likely not very many people. 

How our government handled this pandemic has been an outright tragedy. Mortgage relief? Eviction relief? Sending $1800 to someone, over the last year, who has lost their job, yet owns a house, is just a shame. And not giving millions of people any true mortgage relief is a shame. Yes, some mortgage lenders(CERTAINLY NOT ALL), gave people a 3-6 month grace period, and allowed people to throw mortgage payments on the back end of their loans, and that did help some folks at 1st. No doubt. But now its been an entire year, and where are those people sitting now? True mortgage and eviction relief was not addressed. And its been a year. $1800 to people in need, over the last year, is just ridiculous. Sending people who never suffered due to the pandemic the same $1800 last year, is just PURE STUPIDITY AND A WASTE.


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You wouldn't believe the shit I've seen.  I have two different clients that collectively received around $600K in PPP funding that they did not need.  

Their businesses were basically unaffected in 2020.  And now the GOP is bitching that people making $75K/year might not need $2,000?  

It's fucking bullshit.

Rampant fraud and misuse of this stimulus/bailout money over the last year? I dont think anyone would or should be surprised. I myself am not surprised one bit. But i have to agree with the GOP. People who have not been hurt financially, and have kept on working, and are making $75,000 a year, do not need any stimulus check. 

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

OnWis97 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Gern Blansten said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

cincybearcat said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Stimulus checks

I have no problem with them lowering the income level to $50,000-$100,000 as far as which individuals/families receive this money. Anyone who has been working all along since the pandemic started, and has not suffered financially because of this pandemic, really doesnt need the stimulus checks to begin with, right? My wife and I have not skipped a beat since the pandemic started. We realize we are blessed in that regard. Did her and I really need those 1st 2 stimulus checks? Of course not. 

Now lets hope our government uses some common sense in regards to sending these checks out. If someone made $52K in 2019 yet was laid off for the entire year of 2020, then by all means give this person some help! I dont want to hear that they are going to base these checks on your 2019 tax returns. That would be fucking ridiculous. That would be asinine. That would be fucking insane. 

Which probably means our government will base the stimulus checks on our 2019 tax returns. 

I read it did screw some people for the checks...but I cannot find the article again so it was likely not very many people. 

How our government handled this pandemic has been an outright tragedy. Mortgage relief? Eviction relief? Sending $1800 to someone, over the last year, who has lost their job, yet owns a house, is just a shame. And not giving millions of people any true mortgage relief is a shame. Yes, some mortgage lenders(CERTAINLY NOT ALL), gave people a 3-6 month grace period, and allowed people to throw mortgage payments on the back end of their loans, and that did help some folks at 1st. No doubt. But now its been an entire year, and where are those people sitting now? True mortgage and eviction relief was not addressed. And its been a year. $1800 to people in need, over the last year, is just ridiculous. Sending people who never suffered due to the pandemic the same $1800 last year, is just PURE STUPIDITY AND A WASTE.


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You wouldn't believe the shit I've seen.  I have two different clients that collectively received around $600K in PPP funding that they did not need.  

Their businesses were basically unaffected in 2020.  And now the GOP is bitching that people making $75K/year might not need $2,000?  

It's fucking bullshit.

Rampant fraud and misuse of this stimulus/bailout money over the last year? I dont think anyone would or should be surprised. I myself am not surprised one bit. But i have to agree with the GOP. People who have not been hurt financially, and have kept on working, and are making $75,000 a year, do not need any stimulus check. 

I agree....but is it logistically feasible to determine who does or does not still have full employent?

Well, what is to determine who is eligible? Common sense tells me we certainly cant go by 2019 tax returns. So now we wait until 2020 tax returns are filed? Which i guess would make sense, and we would be able to determine who lost jobs and who lost wages due to the pandemic. Which in turn, would set back the delivery of the next stimulus until July or August? Or do we just go along, again, with the 2019 tax returns and people who were employed in 2019, but lost their jobs in 2020, would not qualify? Which is just ridiculous and cant happen.

So now we wait until the 2020 tax returns are filed, Im guessing. 

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

mrussel1 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

OnWis97 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Gern Blansten said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

cincybearcat said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Stimulus checks

I have no problem with them lowering the income level to $50,000-$100,000 as far as which individuals/families receive this money. Anyone who has been working all along since the pandemic started, and has not suffered financially because of this pandemic, really doesnt need the stimulus checks to begin with, right? My wife and I have not skipped a beat since the pandemic started. We realize we are blessed in that regard. Did her and I really need those 1st 2 stimulus checks? Of course not. 

Now lets hope our government uses some common sense in regards to sending these checks out. If someone made $52K in 2019 yet was laid off for the entire year of 2020, then by all means give this person some help! I dont want to hear that they are going to base these checks on your 2019 tax returns. That would be fucking ridiculous. That would be asinine. That would be fucking insane. 

Which probably means our government will base the stimulus checks on our 2019 tax returns. 

I read it did screw some people for the checks...but I cannot find the article again so it was likely not very many people. 

How our government handled this pandemic has been an outright tragedy. Mortgage relief? Eviction relief? Sending $1800 to someone, over the last year, who has lost their job, yet owns a house, is just a shame. And not giving millions of people any true mortgage relief is a shame. Yes, some mortgage lenders(CERTAINLY NOT ALL), gave people a 3-6 month grace period, and allowed people to throw mortgage payments on the back end of their loans, and that did help some folks at 1st. No doubt. But now its been an entire year, and where are those people sitting now? True mortgage and eviction relief was not addressed. And its been a year. $1800 to people in need, over the last year, is just ridiculous. Sending people who never suffered due to the pandemic the same $1800 last year, is just PURE STUPIDITY AND A WASTE.


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You wouldn't believe the shit I've seen.  I have two different clients that collectively received around $600K in PPP funding that they did not need.  

Their businesses were basically unaffected in 2020.  And now the GOP is bitching that people making $75K/year might not need $2,000?  

It's fucking bullshit.

Rampant fraud and misuse of this stimulus/bailout money over the last year? I dont think anyone would or should be surprised. I myself am not surprised one bit. But i have to agree with the GOP. People who have not been hurt financially, and have kept on working, and are making $75,000 a year, do not need any stimulus check. 

I agree....but is it logistically feasible to determine who does or does not still have full employent?

Well, what is to determine who is eligible? Common sense tells me we certainly cant go by 2019 tax returns. So now we wait until 2020 tax returns are filed? Which i guess would make sense, and we would be able to determine who lost jobs and who lost wages due to the pandemic. Which in turn, would set back the delivery of the next stimulus until July or August? Or do we just go along, again, with the 2019 tax returns and people who were employed in 2019, but lost their jobs in 2020, would not qualify? Which is just ridiculous and cant happen.

So now we wait until the 2020 tax returns are filed, Im guessing. 

No, it's most certainly not waiting until 2020 taxes are filed.  Part of this bill includes continuing federal assistance on unemployment which is set to run out in March.  They will use 2019 numbers.  How someone who made more than 150k in 2019 and is unemployed in 2020 due to Covid is handled, I do not know.  But waiting until June is not the solution that will happen, guaranteed. 

We can all sit back and see what happens here. But if people still dont have any help financially until June? I wouldnt be surprised one bit. 

mrussel1 said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Stimulus checks

I have no problem with them lowering the income level to $50,000-$100,000 as far as which individuals/families receive this money. Anyone who has been working all along since the pandemic started, and has not suffered financially because of this pandemic, really doesnt need the stimulus checks to begin with, right? My wife and I have not skipped a beat since the pandemic started. We realize we are blessed in that regard. Did her and I really need those 1st 2 stimulus checks? Of course not. 

Now lets hope our government uses some common sense in regards to sending these checks out. If someone made $52K in 2019 yet was laid off for the entire year of 2020, then by all means give this person some help! I dont want to hear that they are going to base these checks on your 2019 tax returns. That would be fucking ridiculous. That would be asinine. That would be fucking insane. 

Which probably means our government will base the stimulus checks on our 2019 tax returns. 

How would the govt know who lost a job in 2020, but were over the income threshold in 19? Unemployment is state run.  This might be challenging. 

mrussel1 said:

static111 said:

tbergs said:

They can't send any checks until the middle of the year if you wait for 2020 earnings filings. I mean, people understand that, right? I think they send what they stated now and reassess another more targeted round mid-year.

The irs already has all of your tax info.  I mean they do get sent the money whenever I get a check. if they can’t look at that to figure out who was hurt by this pandemic with all the data they already have  it seems like they are a pretty worthless organization

I don't know if that is true.  People get w2 from their employers. You also have millions of non w2 self employed workers who may not have paid taxes yet. 

mrussel1 said:

Merkin Baller said:

mrussel1 said:

Considering Trump was president the day he died, do you think he did anything close to visiting or offering condolences?

trump didn't order the White House flag to half mast until Sunday. 

Officer Sicknick died on Thursday. 



Blue Lives Matter (until they don't) 

Trump is utter scum.  Not only the worst president, but one of the worst humans in public life we've ever seen. 

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

cincybearcat said:

SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

Stimulus checks

I have no problem with them lowering the income level to $50,000-$100,000 as far as which individuals/families receive this money. Anyone who has been working all along since the pandemic started, and has not suffered financially because of this pandemic, really doesnt need the stimulus checks to begin with, right? My wife and I have not skipped a beat since the pandemic started. We realize we are blessed in that regard. Did her and I really need those 1st 2 stimulus checks? Of course not. 

Now lets hope our government uses some common sense in regards to sending these checks out. If someone made $52K in 2019 yet was laid off for the entire year of 2020, then by all means give this person some help! I dont want to hear that they are going to base these checks on your 2019 tax returns. That would be fucking ridiculous. That would be asinine. That would be fucking insane. 

Which probably means our government will base the stimulus checks on our 2019 tax returns. 

I read it did screw some people for the checks...but I cannot find the article again so it was likely not very many people. 

How our government handled this pandemic has been an outright tragedy. Mortgage relief? Eviction relief? Sending $1800 to someone, over the last year, who has lost their job, yet owns a house, is just a shame. And not giving millions of people any true mortgage relief is a shame. Yes, some mortgage lenders(CERTAINLY NOT ALL), gave people a 3-6 month grace period, and allowed people to throw mortgage payments on the back end of their loans, and that did help some folks at 1st. No doubt. But now its been an entire year, and where are those people sitting now? True mortgage and eviction relief was not addressed. And its been a year. $1800 to people in need, over the last year, is just ridiculous. Sending people who never suffered due to the pandemic the same $1800 last year, is just PURE STUPIDITY AND A WASTE.


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Biden is also calling for an additional $30 billion in funding for emergency rental, energy and water assistance for hard-hit households, plus $5 billion in emergency assistance to people experiencing or at risk of homelessness.”

Not perfect, but a hell of a lot better if that a hole got 45,000 more votes.