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  • JR86440
    JR86440 Posts: 753

    Imagine resenting people who want to take care of humans by taxing those who have a fucking lot of money, in order to pay for things that people who have little, need to survive. 
    Yeah. Imagine penalizing people who make over 250k a year because according to Bernie, 250k a year is rich. Imagine penalizing the guy or gal who risks their life savings by starting a business. Imagine penalizing the guy or gal who not only takes that risk but manages to employee 20, 50,500 people. Imagine the government running healthcare when it can't even get the mail done without losing billions a year..
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    edited March 2020
    JR86440 said:

    Imagine resenting people who want to take care of humans by taxing those who have a fucking lot of money, in order to pay for things that people who have little, need to survive. 
    Yeah. Imagine penalizing people who make over 250k a year because according to Bernie, 250k a year is rich. Imagine penalizing the guy or gal who risks their life savings by starting a business. Imagine penalizing the guy or gal who not only takes that risk but manages to employee 20, 50,500 people. Imagine the government running healthcare when it can't even get the mail done without losing billions a year..
    US debt is strictly tied to the industrial military complex.  Imagine if just a portion of that went towards the well being of your people.  I mean, your government budgets billions on the military to protect citizens from harm (the never ending war on terror, etc.) for “free” yet won’t protect them from a harmful disease without paying for it? Seems nonsensical to me.
    Once again,  Canada’s healthcare system is not perfect and needs work, but I am proud that a homeless person can seek medical attention if needed.  Most of whom have serious mental illness.  
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  • JR86440 said:

    Imagine resenting people who want to take care of humans by taxing those who have a fucking lot of money, in order to pay for things that people who have little, need to survive. 
    Yeah. Imagine penalizing people who make over 250k a year because according to Bernie, 250k a year is rich. Imagine penalizing the guy or gal who risks their life savings by starting a business. Imagine penalizing the guy or gal who not only takes that risk but manages to employee 20, 50,500 people. Imagine the government running healthcare when it can't even get the mail done without losing billions a year..
    Or imagine just getting Jeff Bezos to pay his taxes.
  • PD279656
    PD279656 Posts: 119
    JR86440 said:

    Imagine resenting people who want to take care of humans by taxing those who have a fucking lot of money, in order to pay for things that people who have little, need to survive. 
    Yeah. Imagine penalizing people who make over 250k a year because according to Bernie, 250k a year is rich. Imagine penalizing the guy or gal who risks their life savings by starting a business. Imagine penalizing the guy or gal who not only takes that risk but manages to employee 20, 50,500 people. Imagine the government running healthcare when it can't even get the mail done without losing billions a year..
    Or imagine just getting Jeff Bezos to pay his taxes.
    Jeff Bezos the individual pays his taxes. Every time he sells stock he pays tax on that. 

    If you are referring to Amazon the company not paying any taxes well sadly that is nothing but the MSM filling your brain with whatever filler they want to get you to think the way they want you to. 

    Let high level this for everyone:

    Amazon has a huge book profit.
    Book profit doesn't equal tax profit.
    Amazon issues a ton of stock options to their employees. 
    You get a tax deduction for those stock options because the employee pays the tax on those options at ordinary rates so the government actually gets more money then if Amazon the corporation paid the tax on them at 21%.
    Amazon also has a lot of federal NOLs from all those years of not turning a profit. 
    The combination of those two are the reason they pay little federal tax federal tax as a company. 
  • JR86440
    JR86440 Posts: 753
    JR86440 said:

    Imagine resenting people who want to take care of humans by taxing those who have a fucking lot of money, in order to pay for things that people who have little, need to survive. 
    Yeah. Imagine penalizing people who make over 250k a year because according to Bernie, 250k a year is rich. Imagine penalizing the guy or gal who risks their life savings by starting a business. Imagine penalizing the guy or gal who not only takes that risk but manages to employee 20, 50,500 people. Imagine the government running healthcare when it can't even get the mail done without losing billions a year..
    Or imagine just getting Jeff Bezos to pay his taxes.
    The tax system is a mess. Agreed. Hedge fund managers pay less than I do. However, to increase taxes on the people who make 300, 500k  a year is nonsene. It's like your boss at review time saying, great job. You have been kicking ass this year. You are my best employee. I am now going to decrease your pay by 8%....
  • blackhawks
    blackhawks Posts: 307
    PD279656 said:
    JR86440 said:

    Imagine resenting people who want to take care of humans by taxing those who have a fucking lot of money, in order to pay for things that people who have little, need to survive. 
    Yeah. Imagine penalizing people who make over 250k a year because according to Bernie, 250k a year is rich. Imagine penalizing the guy or gal who risks their life savings by starting a business. Imagine penalizing the guy or gal who not only takes that risk but manages to employee 20, 50,500 people. Imagine the government running healthcare when it can't even get the mail done without losing billions a year..
    Or imagine just getting Jeff Bezos to pay his taxes.
    Jeff Bezos the individual pays his taxes. Every time he sells stock he pays tax on that. 

    If you are referring to Amazon the company not paying any taxes well sadly that is nothing but the MSM filling your brain with whatever filler they want to get you to think the way they want you to. 

    Let high level this for everyone:

    Amazon has a huge book profit.
    Book profit doesn't equal tax profit.
    Amazon issues a ton of stock options to their employees. 
    You get a tax deduction for those stock options because the employee pays the tax on those options at ordinary rates so the government actually gets more money then if Amazon the corporation paid the tax on them at 21%.
    Amazon also has a lot of federal NOLs from all those years of not turning a profit. 
    The combination of those two are the reason they pay little federal tax federal tax as a company. 
    Quit talking common sense.  Get back to free shit!

    But seriously, that flew over most of the people’s heads here.  They just don’t get it yet it is all Trumps fault.  Even though the tax code hasn’t changed much the last 30 years.
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    demetrios said:
    Too bad Bernie has no chance to win. He’s way to far left at a time when we should all meet in the middle to fix what horrible state the country is in right now. Socialism may work for a small number of people and a smaller country in size but with how big and diverse America is, I don’t see how it can. It’s a shame. I think Bernie has some great ideas but implementation of those ideas don’t seem plausible here. The main thing besides global warming that America needs to focus on is getting this current administration out of office in 2020. 

    Glad and to see Ed and family supporting such a good cause. Hopefully lots of good can come from it. 
    +1
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    So people need free college to survive?

    take another step back
    think bigger picture

    society needs to be educated to survive
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,772
    Hey Ed, if you're still supporting Bernie, I got a great tune for you.

    And a dominant song in a genre you're making a courageous effort to contribute to.

    http://youtu.be/_Xlkla4Jrbk
  • Pap
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