My Uncle and Charles Manson

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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mace1229 said:
    Would be great to find the letters and read through everything. Did your uncle have any kids he would have left everything to?
    No kids, hence why I asked for them.  He had a buddy whom he made a deal w and whomever died first they got each others stuff.  I have no idea who the person is or I Would have contacted him.
    Sounds like a deal some people should make around here. My wife and kids have no interest in my posters and vinyl. 
  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    edited January 2021
    Pretty wild! I’ve found that whole Manson/Mindhunter stuff to be really interesting. Especially the Manson cult and its relationship to the era it occurred in.

    For a few years I worked closely with people who were either getting ready to be released, or who had been recently released from correctional facilities here in MN. Repeat sex offenders, murder one convictions, theft,  you name it. In all the dealings, I only met one person who made me very, very uncomfortable.  A textbook sociopath. Even the others in my program, hard guys, didn’t want to be around this guy. He’s now serving life in a federal prison for interstate kidnapping and attempted murder of a US Marshall.

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    jerparker20 said:
    Pretty wild! I’ve found that whole Manson/Mindhunter stuff to be really interesting. Especially the Manson cult and its relationship to the era it occurred in.

    For a few years I worked closely with people who were either getting ready to be released, or who had been recently released from correctional facilities here in MN. Repeat sex offenders, murder one convictions, theft,  you name it. In all the dealings, I only met one person who made me very, very uncomfortable.  A textbook sociopath. Even the others in my program, hard guys, didn’t want to be around this guy. He’s now serving life in a federal prison for interstate kidnapping and attempted murder of a US Marshall.

    Buddy of mine was the psychologist for Angola state prison.  That man has some stories.  He is a God fearing man and claimed that some people behind those walls "were not fit to breathe air"...
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,097
    that is a pretty awesome story.

    i was thinking "how did charlie know where he lived to keep sending people to his home??"

    then i remembered they were sharing letters, so of course he had his address, lol

    sorry, long week for me.

    hopefully the letters can be found.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,219
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    that is a pretty awesome story.

    i was thinking "how did charlie know where he lived to keep sending people to his home??"

    then i remembered they were sharing letters, so of course he had his address, lol

    sorry, long week for me.

    hopefully the letters can be found.
    Just a long week for you? It’s been a long year and two weeks into January feels like 2 years.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    that is a pretty awesome story.

    i was thinking "how did charlie know where he lived to keep sending people to his home??"

    then i remembered they were sharing letters, so of course he had his address, lol

    sorry, long week for me.

    hopefully the letters can be found.
    i'd be pretty apprehensive about giving my address to a fucking cult leader. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    that is a pretty awesome story.

    i was thinking "how did charlie know where he lived to keep sending people to his home??"

    then i remembered they were sharing letters, so of course he had his address, lol

    sorry, long week for me.

    hopefully the letters can be found.
    i'd be pretty apprehensive about giving my address to a fucking cult leader. 
    After that story about you and the guy from the record store I would get a damn PO box!
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    tempo_n_groove said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    that is a pretty awesome story.

    i was thinking "how did charlie know where he lived to keep sending people to his home??"

    then i remembered they were sharing letters, so of course he had his address, lol

    sorry, long week for me.

    hopefully the letters can be found.
    i'd be pretty apprehensive about giving my address to a fucking cult leader. 
    After that story about you and the guy from the record store I would get a damn PO box!
    totally! 
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  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    jerparker20 said:
    Pretty wild! I’ve found that whole Manson/Mindhunter stuff to be really interesting. Especially the Manson cult and its relationship to the era it occurred in.

    For a few years I worked closely with people who were either getting ready to be released, or who had been recently released from correctional facilities here in MN. Repeat sex offenders, murder one convictions, theft,  you name it. In all the dealings, I only met one person who made me very, very uncomfortable.  A textbook sociopath. Even the others in my program, hard guys, didn’t want to be around this guy. He’s now serving life in a federal prison for interstate kidnapping and attempted murder of a US Marshall.

    My husband watched Gary Heidnik for a long time. Also guarded the Narducci  brothers and some high level Muslims as well. He said Heidnik was the most deranged he ever worked around. Said  you could see the insanity in his eyes. 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,614
    Damn interesting stuff! I hope the letters see daylight sometime!!
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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,363
    This is a fascinating story! Thanks for sharing it, Chris. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    darwinstheory said:
    This is a fascinating story! Thanks for sharing it, Chris. 
    NP.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,787
    Awesome story, I hope somehow you find those letters... I'm sure they would be incredible to read. 
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,277
    just finished reading this. charlie was a sociopathic con man almost from day one.


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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    Wobbie said:
    just finished reading this. charlie was a sociopathic con man almost from day one.


    Try and find his original record out there.  It's worth a fortune.
  • cblock4life
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    cblock4life said:
    jerparker20 said:
    Pretty wild! I’ve found that whole Manson/Mindhunter stuff to be really interesting. Especially the Manson cult and its relationship to the era it occurred in.

    For a few years I worked closely with people who were either getting ready to be released, or who had been recently released from correctional facilities here in MN. Repeat sex offenders, murder one convictions, theft,  you name it. In all the dealings, I only met one person who made me very, very uncomfortable.  A textbook sociopath. Even the others in my program, hard guys, didn’t want to be around this guy. He’s now serving life in a federal prison for interstate kidnapping and attempted murder of a US Marshall.

    My husband watched Gary Heidnik for a long time. Also guarded the Narducci  brothers and some high level Muslims as well. He said Heidnik was the most deranged he ever worked around. Said  you could see the insanity in his eyes. 
    So we got that new Discovery streaming package and we were watching Most Evil where killers are rated 1-22 as most evil. Our friend (not really just who my husband guarded) Gary Heidnik was rated a 22!! We just looked at each other!  My husband certainly knows his evil killers!  
  • brianlux
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    We watched the Movie "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" last night.  Excellent!  I had no idea how it would end and just loved the way it went.  Oh, if only.
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