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True but he's winning politically for himself, not the party. This will have an effect to suppress the right wing vote, if anything.Merkin Baller said:
I agree, it's a garbage suit... as I read elsewhere however, although Trump is losing legally, he's winning politically... the amount of people who believe this election was stolen is staggering, and they aren't going to go away.mrussel1 said:
Garbage suit. What's more hilarious is that Texas GOP tried to invalidate the drive in voting that was instituted in Houston for the same reason, but lost. So under the reasoning of the AG, his states votes should be nullified and sent to the legislature for a new set of electors as well. In other words, his state is not even following the complaint and demand he is imposing on other states. And this doesn't even get into the lack of standing on the issue to start.Merkin Baller said:So much for states’ rights.
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BidenMerkin Baller said:
I agree, it's a garbage suit... as I read elsewhere however, although Trump is losing legally, he's winning politically... the amount of people who believe this election was stolen is staggering, and they aren't going to go away.mrussel1 said:
Garbage suit. What's more hilarious is that Texas GOP tried to invalidate the drive in voting that was instituted in Houston for the same reason, but lost. So under the reasoning of the AG, his states votes should be nullified and sent to the legislature for a new set of electors as well. In other words, his state is not even following the complaint and demand he is imposing on other states. And this doesn't even get into the lack of standing on the issue to start.Merkin Baller said:So much for states’ rights.
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/02/930365888/federal-judge-dismisses-effort-to-throw-out-drive-through-votes-in-houstonYeah...the idea may be "hey we probably won't actually pull this off" but we can put Biden under such a cloud of uncertainty about his legitimacy that we can make it impossible for him to be successful and make a huge haul in 2022 and have any easy win in 2024.America first!
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Biden
hopefully they'll all just stay home if they think it's rigged anyway. LOLmrussel1 said:
True but he's winning politically for himself, not the party. This will have an effect to suppress the right wing vote, if anything.Merkin Baller said:
I agree, it's a garbage suit... as I read elsewhere however, although Trump is losing legally, he's winning politically... the amount of people who believe this election was stolen is staggering, and they aren't going to go away.mrussel1 said:
Garbage suit. What's more hilarious is that Texas GOP tried to invalidate the drive in voting that was instituted in Houston for the same reason, but lost. So under the reasoning of the AG, his states votes should be nullified and sent to the legislature for a new set of electors as well. In other words, his state is not even following the complaint and demand he is imposing on other states. And this doesn't even get into the lack of standing on the issue to start.Merkin Baller said:So much for states’ rights.
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/02/930365888/federal-judge-dismisses-effort-to-throw-out-drive-through-votes-in-houstonHugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Biden
That's exactly itHughFreakingDillon said:
hopefully they'll all just stay home if they think it's rigged anyway. LOLmrussel1 said:
True but he's winning politically for himself, not the party. This will have an effect to suppress the right wing vote, if anything.Merkin Baller said:
I agree, it's a garbage suit... as I read elsewhere however, although Trump is losing legally, he's winning politically... the amount of people who believe this election was stolen is staggering, and they aren't going to go away.mrussel1 said:
Garbage suit. What's more hilarious is that Texas GOP tried to invalidate the drive in voting that was instituted in Houston for the same reason, but lost. So under the reasoning of the AG, his states votes should be nullified and sent to the legislature for a new set of electors as well. In other words, his state is not even following the complaint and demand he is imposing on other states. And this doesn't even get into the lack of standing on the issue to start.Merkin Baller said:So much for states’ rights.
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Bidenmrussel1 said:
That's exactly itHughFreakingDillon said:
hopefully they'll all just stay home if they think it's rigged anyway. LOLmrussel1 said:
True but he's winning politically for himself, not the party. This will have an effect to suppress the right wing vote, if anything.Merkin Baller said:
I agree, it's a garbage suit... as I read elsewhere however, although Trump is losing legally, he's winning politically... the amount of people who believe this election was stolen is staggering, and they aren't going to go away.mrussel1 said:
Garbage suit. What's more hilarious is that Texas GOP tried to invalidate the drive in voting that was instituted in Houston for the same reason, but lost. So under the reasoning of the AG, his states votes should be nullified and sent to the legislature for a new set of electors as well. In other words, his state is not even following the complaint and demand he is imposing on other states. And this doesn't even get into the lack of standing on the issue to start.Merkin Baller said:So much for states’ rights.
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/02/930365888/federal-judge-dismisses-effort-to-throw-out-drive-through-votes-in-houston
That might happen. And it's kinda frightening. As much as I'd love to see the Peach State Pandemic Profiteers lose, the idea that GOP voters would let that happen out of spite because of their devotion to Trump could send the party a pretty strong message that Trumpism is their only legitimate strategy to capture votes.
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Biden
Republicans are far from fucked. Americans however are probably more so. Rs can’t win elections without the Trumpers at this point, that means they are going to continue pandering and reaching out to them as “mainstream Republicans” tacitly accept the new reality they must embrace to remain in power. Joe on the street will continue to identify as a Republican and vote R because years of conditioning have taught him there is no other choice if you want to support personal responsibility, guns, Jesus, low taxes for the wealthy and the anti infanticide agenda.OnWis97 said:mrussel1 said:
That's exactly itHughFreakingDillon said:
hopefully they'll all just stay home if they think it's rigged anyway. LOLmrussel1 said:
True but he's winning politically for himself, not the party. This will have an effect to suppress the right wing vote, if anything.Merkin Baller said:
I agree, it's a garbage suit... as I read elsewhere however, although Trump is losing legally, he's winning politically... the amount of people who believe this election was stolen is staggering, and they aren't going to go away.mrussel1 said:
Garbage suit. What's more hilarious is that Texas GOP tried to invalidate the drive in voting that was instituted in Houston for the same reason, but lost. So under the reasoning of the AG, his states votes should be nullified and sent to the legislature for a new set of electors as well. In other words, his state is not even following the complaint and demand he is imposing on other states. And this doesn't even get into the lack of standing on the issue to start.Merkin Baller said:So much for states’ rights.
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/02/930365888/federal-judge-dismisses-effort-to-throw-out-drive-through-votes-in-houston
That might happen. And it's kinda frightening. As much as I'd love to see the Peach State Pandemic Profiteers lose, the idea that GOP voters would let that happen out of spite because of their devotion to Trump could send the party a pretty strong message that Trumpism is their only legitimate strategy to capture votes.Scio me nihil scire
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Biden
Unless he doesn't vote because he's convinced it's rigged and his vote doesn't matter.static111 said:
Republicans are far from fucked. Americans however are probably more so. Rs can’t win elections without the Trumpers at this point, that means they are going to continue pandering and reaching out to them as “mainstream Republicans” tacitly accept the new reality they must embrace to remain in power. Joe on the street will continue to identify as a Republican and vote R because years of conditioning have taught him there is no other choice if you want to support personal responsibility, guns, Jesus, low taxes for the wealthy and the anti infanticide agenda.OnWis97 said:mrussel1 said:
That's exactly itHughFreakingDillon said:
hopefully they'll all just stay home if they think it's rigged anyway. LOLmrussel1 said:
True but he's winning politically for himself, not the party. This will have an effect to suppress the right wing vote, if anything.Merkin Baller said:
I agree, it's a garbage suit... as I read elsewhere however, although Trump is losing legally, he's winning politically... the amount of people who believe this election was stolen is staggering, and they aren't going to go away.mrussel1 said:
Garbage suit. What's more hilarious is that Texas GOP tried to invalidate the drive in voting that was instituted in Houston for the same reason, but lost. So under the reasoning of the AG, his states votes should be nullified and sent to the legislature for a new set of electors as well. In other words, his state is not even following the complaint and demand he is imposing on other states. And this doesn't even get into the lack of standing on the issue to start.Merkin Baller said:So much for states’ rights.
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/02/930365888/federal-judge-dismisses-effort-to-throw-out-drive-through-votes-in-houston
That might happen. And it's kinda frightening. As much as I'd love to see the Peach State Pandemic Profiteers lose, the idea that GOP voters would let that happen out of spite because of their devotion to Trump could send the party a pretty strong message that Trumpism is their only legitimate strategy to capture votes.0 -
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BidenSupreme Court denies Trump allies’ bid to overturn Pennsylvania election results
By Robert Barnes
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-trump-pennsylvania-election-results/2020/12/08/4d39e16c-397d-11eb-98c4-25dc9f4987e8_story.html
Supreme Court denies Trump allies’ bid to overturn Pennsylvania election results
By Robert Barnes
December 08 at 4:52 PM EST
The Supreme Court on Tuesday denied a last-minute attempt by President Trump’s allies to overturn the election results in Pennsylvania.
The court’s brief order provided no reasoning, nor did it note any dissenting votes. It was the first request to delay or overturn the results of the presidential election to reach the court.
The lawsuit was part of a blizzard of litigation and personal interventions Trump and his lawyers have waged to overturn victories by Democrat Joe Biden in a handful of key states.
Trump called the speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives twice during the past week to make an extraordinary request for help reversing his loss in the state. But Speaker Bryan Cutler told the president he had no authority to step in, or to order the legislature into special session, a Cutler spokesman told The Washington Post.
Republican members of the legislature and Congress supported the Supreme Court challenge to the changes they had made to Pennsylvania’s voting system in 2019.
A group of Republican candidates led by Rep. Mike Kelly (R) challenged Act 77, a change made by the Republican-controlled legislature to allow universal mail-in ballots. Their charge was that the state constitution’s requirements on absentee ballots meant the legislature didn’t have the authority to open mail-in balloting for others.
[Trump allies ask Supreme Court to intervene in Pennsylvania election]
But the Pennsylvania Supreme Court said the challenge was filed too late — only after the votes were cast and the results known. Democrat Joe Biden won the state by a more than 80,000-vote margin.
The unanimous order blamed petitioners for a “complete failure to act with due diligence in commencing their facial constitutional challenge, which was ascertainable upon Act 77’s enactment.”
It added that some of the petitioners had urged their supporters to cast their ballots using the new mail-in procedure.
The U.S. Supreme Court rarely intervenes in a decision of a state supreme court interpreting its own constitution and laws. But the plaintiffs charged that the system raised federal issues. Although acknowledging that it is up to states to develop election procedures, the claim was that the federal Constitution was violated if the Pennsylvania legislature expanded the mail-in procedure without proper authority from the state constitution.
Further, they claimed the individual constitutional rights of Kelly and the others were violated. Their theory was that because the Pennsylvania Supreme Court dismissed the challenge because it was filed too late, they were denied due process.
Their suggested remedy was to invalidate all votes cast by mail in the general election — more than 2.5 million in total — or to dismiss the outcome of the election altogether so that the state legislature could appoint its own slate of presidential electors.
Pennsylvania’s lawyers told the U.S. Supreme Court that was a shocking request--“nothing less than an affront to constitutional democracy” that would ensnare the judiciary “in partisan strife.”
“Petitioners ask this court to undertake one of the most dramatic, disruptive invocations of judicial power in the history of the Republic,” Pennsylvania’s response said. “No court has ever issued an order nullifying a governor’s certification of presidential election results.”
Pennsylvania’s lawyers said there was no conflict between the state constitution and Act 77, and that the specific requirements in the document were for absentee voting, not mail-in ballots. Their brief noted that the legislature had set a 180-day window for raising constitutional objections to the plan, which the challengers ignored.
And it argued that the claims of a due process violation were undercut by the relief Trump allies seek.
“They do not explain how a remedy premised on massive disenfranchisement would accord with the Due Process Clause, which requires the counting of votes cast in reasonable reliance on existing election rules as implemented and described by state officials,” the state’s response said.
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Biden
It’s only rigged if they lose! That is the message. We need all the Rs to show up so that even ifmrussel1 said:
Unless he doesn't vote because he's convinced it's rigged and his vote doesn't matter.static111 said:
Republicans are far from fucked. Americans however are probably more so. Rs can’t win elections without the Trumpers at this point, that means they are going to continue pandering and reaching out to them as “mainstream Republicans” tacitly accept the new reality they must embrace to remain in power. Joe on the street will continue to identify as a Republican and vote R because years of conditioning have taught him there is no other choice if you want to support personal responsibility, guns, Jesus, low taxes for the wealthy and the anti infanticide agenda.OnWis97 said:mrussel1 said:
That's exactly itHughFreakingDillon said:
hopefully they'll all just stay home if they think it's rigged anyway. LOLmrussel1 said:
True but he's winning politically for himself, not the party. This will have an effect to suppress the right wing vote, if anything.Merkin Baller said:
I agree, it's a garbage suit... as I read elsewhere however, although Trump is losing legally, he's winning politically... the amount of people who believe this election was stolen is staggering, and they aren't going to go away.mrussel1 said:
Garbage suit. What's more hilarious is that Texas GOP tried to invalidate the drive in voting that was instituted in Houston for the same reason, but lost. So under the reasoning of the AG, his states votes should be nullified and sent to the legislature for a new set of electors as well. In other words, his state is not even following the complaint and demand he is imposing on other states. And this doesn't even get into the lack of standing on the issue to start.Merkin Baller said:So much for states’ rights.
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/02/930365888/federal-judge-dismisses-effort-to-throw-out-drive-through-votes-in-houston
That might happen. And it's kinda frightening. As much as I'd love to see the Peach State Pandemic Profiteers lose, the idea that GOP voters would let that happen out of spite because of their devotion to Trump could send the party a pretty strong message that Trumpism is their only legitimate strategy to capture votes.
they cheat we win! It’s literally their only strategy at this point. Unless they really want to never win a major election again outside of the south.Scio me nihil scire
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81million voters heard the same message about the Republicans, they love to cheat to win ..static111 said:
It’s only rigged if they lose! That is the message. We need all the Rs to show up so that even ifmrussel1 said:
Unless he doesn't vote because he's convinced it's rigged and his vote doesn't matter.static111 said:
Republicans are far from fucked. Americans however are probably more so. Rs can’t win elections without the Trumpers at this point, that means they are going to continue pandering and reaching out to them as “mainstream Republicans” tacitly accept the new reality they must embrace to remain in power. Joe on the street will continue to identify as a Republican and vote R because years of conditioning have taught him there is no other choice if you want to support personal responsibility, guns, Jesus, low taxes for the wealthy and the anti infanticide agenda.OnWis97 said:mrussel1 said:
That's exactly itHughFreakingDillon said:
hopefully they'll all just stay home if they think it's rigged anyway. LOLmrussel1 said:
True but he's winning politically for himself, not the party. This will have an effect to suppress the right wing vote, if anything.Merkin Baller said:
I agree, it's a garbage suit... as I read elsewhere however, although Trump is losing legally, he's winning politically... the amount of people who believe this election was stolen is staggering, and they aren't going to go away.mrussel1 said:
Garbage suit. What's more hilarious is that Texas GOP tried to invalidate the drive in voting that was instituted in Houston for the same reason, but lost. So under the reasoning of the AG, his states votes should be nullified and sent to the legislature for a new set of electors as well. In other words, his state is not even following the complaint and demand he is imposing on other states. And this doesn't even get into the lack of standing on the issue to start.Merkin Baller said:So much for states’ rights.
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/02/930365888/federal-judge-dismisses-effort-to-throw-out-drive-through-votes-in-houston
That might happen. And it's kinda frightening. As much as I'd love to see the Peach State Pandemic Profiteers lose, the idea that GOP voters would let that happen out of spite because of their devotion to Trump could send the party a pretty strong message that Trumpism is their only legitimate strategy to capture votes.
they cheat we win! It’s literally their only strategy at this point. Unless they really want to never win a major election again outside of the south.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Probably not the right thread to post this, but the emergence of OAN, Newsmax & Parler is hilarious considering how much conservatives have ridiculed others about safe spaces & echo chambers.0
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“Now 106 members of Congress filed a brief in favor of Texas' request to throw out the results of the presidential election in 4 states that didn't vote for Trump, partly because it's important the government operate "based on the consent of the governed." “0 -
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Are they really this stupid? Based on the consent of the governed is how we've always done it. It's called an election and one side won and the other side LOST. Put on your big boy and girl pants and suck it up and move on.Merkin Baller said:
“Now 106 members of Congress filed a brief in favor of Texas' request to throw out the results of the presidential election in 4 states that didn't vote for Trump, partly because it's important the government operate "based on the consent of the governed." “
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They're all about states' rights until they aren't.Kat said:
Are they really this stupid? Based on the consent of the governed is how we've always done it. It's called an election and one side won and the other side LOST. Put on your big boy and girl pants and suck it up and move on.Merkin Baller said:
“Now 106 members of Congress filed a brief in favor of Texas' request to throw out the results of the presidential election in 4 states that didn't vote for Trump, partly because it's important the government operate "based on the consent of the governed." “
Incredible.
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Have the Karcrapidans passed the bar yet? Maybe they can litigate?Bentleyspop said:Pennsylvania giving texas the business...09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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