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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,855
    edited December 2020
    Merkin Baller said:
    MayDay10 said:
    I don't think my tune will change.  I don't think I will claim 'fake season' and try on social media to diminish the accomplishment of KC, New Orleans, Tennessee, or whoever will likely win the Superbowl.  (i dont believe the Bills can take KC or probably Tennessee anyways)
    Tough break? yeah. But no different than a tough call, costly injury, or weather.  Ultimately, the result of the games will forever be what the boxscore shows.

    Now if the entire league has an outbreak and the Giants win the NFCE with a 6-10 record and go on to win the Superbowl.... then I will hear the case. haha.

    So what you're saying is that you're not the type to make excuses, or diminish the accomplishments of other teams?

    You wouldn't for example, go out of your way to point out someone on a rival team having taken steroids in the past, despite 100% of NFL teams having had players suspended for steroids in the past, does that sound about right? 

    The Patriots' titles aren't 'phony', they will always be in the history books, and Im sure players on all teams have taken steroids.  Edelman to me is a funny caricature of a roided up empty husk of a meathead though, and its clear the substances have done a number to his body.  I also feel strongly that the Patriots took advantage of every single edge they could find to their benefit, much moreso than any other team.  Tough luck.  They won and it's history.  I give them credit for doing it because it is/was smart.  Still need to execute and they did.  In 50 years they will probably be known as the greatest dynasty in NFL history

    People in Buffalo like to cry 'no goal' for the Cup-winning goal in 1999 that shouldn't have counted.  While, yes, by the letter of the stupid rules that existed that season and took away many goals, that goal should have been reviewed and called back.  It is forgotten the Sabres were out of gas that game and would have had trouble scoring the winner, then would have had to win a Game 7 in Dallas.  
    Anyways, my response to people I hear claiming it is 'no goal' is to tell them to pull up hockey reference and the boxscore and tell me if it was a goal or not.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,262
    Asterisk season. Not taking anything away from any team. Just that it’s “not normal.” Anyone remember the players strike or replacement refs seasons? And all the pissing and moaning? Every team would be better if things were “normal.”  You can’t compare last nights game to one under normal circumstances with full rosters and a packed home crowd. While still entertaining, all games have been sloppy. Pats are still in the hunt, have potential to make the playoffs and are still a team that nobody wants to see in the playoffs. Do I expect them to go to the SB? No. But this season, like everything else in life this year, is lost and gets an asterisk. And I like the Bills because they’re playing great and are fun to watch again.
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,814
    I also like the Bills but was pointing out that teams with superior coaches were for sure hurt by the way the season rolled out.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    eeriepadave said:
    How is this possible? Every Denver Broncos QB is ineligible cause of Covid-19. Who the hell are they gonna put in, Elway?
    I don't follow NFL too closely so there could be a valid reason, but from the outside seems stupid when some games get postponed and then the Broncos get told not to play any of their QBs but the game goes on. Apparently they tried playing a free agent and even a coach and they were told no, new players need to quarantine for 6 days. So literally were told can't have an real QB.
    I was really hoping they'd bring 10 out into the field and snap the ball to no one. The NFL obviously wanted them to play without a QB, so why not?
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,855
    edited December 2020
    I think the teams that were hurt the most were probably ones with new coaches or heavy turnover with their coordinators.  Or any team whose coach is Adam Gase.  

    I think when it is all said and done, we will likely see KC (or Tennessee) versus New Orleans/Seattle/GB.  That is likely what would have been the match-up with or without Covid, and in 5-10 years, everyone will have forgotten most of the specific circumstances of the season (other than it was an odd Covid season without fans, and likely a much different-looking Superbowl spectacle).  Maybe Mahomes will be looking for his 3rd or 4th Superbowl title by then, and absolutely nobody would bat an eye at one of those being 2020.  Same thing if Brees goes out on top (or even Brady).

    *I dont think I should count out Pittsburgh as much as I do.
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,814
    mace1229 said:
    eeriepadave said:
    How is this possible? Every Denver Broncos QB is ineligible cause of Covid-19. Who the hell are they gonna put in, Elway?
    I don't follow NFL too closely so there could be a valid reason, but from the outside seems stupid when some games get postponed and then the Broncos get told not to play any of their QBs but the game goes on. Apparently they tried playing a free agent and even a coach and they were told no, new players need to quarantine for 6 days. So literally were told can't have an real QB.
    I was really hoping they'd bring 10 out into the field and snap the ball to no one. The NFL obviously wanted them to play without a QB, so why not?

    They deserve it.  These fucking dummies all went in the same room, in close contact, without masks - knowingly breaking the policies of the team.  I think it is beyond much doubt that the NFL used them as an example.  The Ravens did not have the same sort of egregious breach in protocol found. 

    I don't know about other teams but the Niners do not let their practice squad QB around their other QBs....in case one of them gets the Rona.
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  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    I think this is an asterisk year, but I also don't think it should take away from whomever wins the Super Bowl (I know I sound like a homer, since I'm hoping it's the Chiefs again).  Out of all of the major sports, the NFL had the most time to prepare on dealing with COVID and you can see which organizations were/are best prepared at preventing spread throughout their roster.  That's part of a team's potential success or failure.  It's certainly much more avoidable than an unexpected injury during a game.  I do think the opt-outs have taken a few teams down a notch, namely the Patriots, but that is still part of this weird and fucked up 2020.
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  • eeriepadave
    eeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 43,212
    Oh yeah no more Thursday night football this season
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    edited December 2020
    MayDay10 said:
    Haha.  It counts fine unless your team stinks and there are sour grapes 
    As far as I am concerned: the Phillies never played this year, the NBA Bubble never happened, and this NFL season is a glorified extended preseason. Only sport that counted in 2020 was/is golf!
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,791
    I genuinely don’t get comparing covid to your average run of the mill injuries or issues that teams deal with year in & year out. 

    Typical NFL injuries don’t shut down team facilities forcing them to miss practices, workouts, PT, team meetings etc. Typical NFL injuries don’t have the potential to spread from player to player just by being in their presence, or like in Denver’s case seeing all 3 QBs land in mandatory quarantine. I don’t refute they brought it on themselves, but regardless it’s one of many unique circumstances that wouldn’t have happened in any other year. 

    Yes, whomever wins the super bowl will forever be the 2020 champ, and hopefully no playoff games or team rosters are significantly impacted by covid in the postseason. 

    My “fake season” comment was more than a little tongue in cheek. Those guys are out there busting their asses just as hard as they do in any other year and I’m enjoying the (good) games. But this year is like no other year this league has ever seen, and the inconsistent impact the pandemic has had on teams can’t be overlooked.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    Merkin Baller said:
    I genuinely don’t get comparing covid to your average run of the mill injuries or issues that teams deal with year in & year out. 

    Typical NFL injuries don’t shut down team facilities forcing them to miss practices, workouts, PT, team meetings etc. Typical NFL injuries don’t have the potential to spread from player to player just by being in their presence, or like in Denver’s case seeing all 3 QBs land in mandatory quarantine. I don’t refute they brought it on themselves, but regardless it’s one of many unique circumstances that wouldn’t have happened in any other year. 

    Yes, whomever wins the super bowl will forever be the 2020 champ, and hopefully no playoff games or team rosters are significantly impacted by covid in the postseason. 

    My “fake season” comment was more than a little tongue in cheek. Those guys are out there busting their asses just as hard as they do in any other year and I’m enjoying the (good) games. But this year is like no other year this league has ever seen, and the inconsistent impact the pandemic has had on teams can’t be overlooked.
    Fake season. Never happened. 

    On top of everything else you mentioned--- no fans. Or hardly any fans. It's just a big ol' asterisk in this guy's book. 
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  • Poncier
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    eeriepadave said:
    Oh yeah no more Thursday night football this season
    Yes there is.
    Tonight's game was moved to Tuesday cause its Cowboys/Ravens and Ravens just played yesterday cause they aren't the Broncos and the league will capitulate to them.
    Patriots/Rams is next Thursday.
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  • SmallestOceans
    SmallestOceans Posts: 13,542
    Which team is the better suicide pick this week and why? Vikings (-10.5) home vs Jaguars or Raiders (-9) at Jets after getting blown out?
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  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,911
    SmallestOceans said:
    Which team is the better suicide pick this week and why? Vikings (-10.5) home vs Jaguars or Raiders (-9) at Jets after getting blown out?
    I'd prob go Raiders since the Jets are an absolute joke.  Vikings have been better lately but it wouldn't be shocking if they lost.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,814
    Would go Vikes but they kinda suck depending on the week.  Go with your gut.  If you are still alive at this late point of the season you have done a great job!!!

    (I feel Jets are going to win one of these games coming down the stretch)
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  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,855
    The Jets stand no chance.

    I think you need to weigh in on the next couple weeks and if you need/can use the Jets, or if you want to risk saving them for next week.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,814
    MayDay10 said:
    The Jets stand no chance.

    I think you need to weigh in on the next couple weeks and if you need/can use the Jets, or if you want to risk saving them for next week.

    Not many teams have gone without at least a single win....tough to predict who they could possibly win against (ha!) but I think it would be funny if it were that insufferable Chucky who lost to them.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    I'd go Vikings.
    West coast teams playing at 1:00 Eastern usually don't fare well.
    Just look at last Sunday, Raiders lost (got smoked) in Hotlanta, Chargers lost in Beefalo and Cardinals lost in Foxborough.
    Plus Raiders have had to fly from LV to Atlanta then back to Vegas, then to NYC in an 8 day span.
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  • SmallestOceans
    SmallestOceans Posts: 13,542
    Thanks for the input guys. I ended up going with Seattle over NYG at home. I could see both the Vikings/Raiders losing today. Titans at Jags next week most likely.
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,289
    are the raiders gonna beat the best team in the NFL and lose to the worst?
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