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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,033
    edited September 2020
    dankind said:
    I see that they also added "Locomotive" to the set list before lockdowns.

    I can't begin to tell you how relieved I am at not having to hear that one.
    i dig the riff. the effects on axl's vocals are weird. but i like the song. live would probably sound good. 
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  • mvw
    mvw Posts: 1,706
    Kool Ranch Dres’ing
  • SmallestOceans
    SmallestOceans Posts: 13,542
    Locomotive and Coma are two of their best imo
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,033
    Garden of Eden is one of my faves.Not sure why. Maybe the ridiculously simple video. Maybe the fast pace of the song. But I've always been drawn to it. 

    juxtapose that with the slow heartbeat bass and droning of coma, with the dramatic crescendo, love them both. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    cp3iverson said:
    If Illusions 1 and 2 was just one album you’d have a strong argument for the best debut and follow up albums in rock history.  
    Besides it being their third release?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    I was really impressed when I saw them a few years ago.  I had not seen them since the Metallica tour in 91.  Axl sounded mediocre but he’s never had a good live voice.  But they were committed, playing three hours straight outdoors in Miami in August.  That’s not easy.  I’ve hated them for 25 years but I was so impressed with them that I was supposed to see them with the Pumpkins at National Stadium before the ‘Vid.  
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,956
    I saw them in Seattle, the first tour after they got back together.  It was pretty good, so good, that I felt it was almost too polished.  I felt like they predetermined who stands where, how long you spend on each side or the middle.   It felt a little a little too smooth :)

    My favourite GNR show is actually a guns n replacements show.  It was in Edmonton around 2006.   It was old school Axl doesn't show up until after 12am kind of thing.   Any fan knows that and books the next day off work :)    The show was amazing.  We had such a good time.   It went until 2:30am in the arena.   Axl even did a Duet with Bubbles from trailer park boys.. lol.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Zod said:
    I saw them in Seattle, the first tour after they got back together.  It was pretty good, so good, that I felt it was almost too polished.  I felt like they predetermined who stands where, how long you spend on each side or the middle.   It felt a little a little too smooth :)

    My favourite GNR show is actually a guns n replacements show.  It was in Edmonton around 2006.   It was old school Axl doesn't show up until after 12am kind of thing.   Any fan knows that and books the next day off work :)    The show was amazing.  We had such a good time.   It went until 2:30am in the arena.   Axl even did a Duet with Bubbles from trailer park boys.. lol.
    My favorite was when I got to see them open for Aerosmith on the Permanent Vacation.  They had something to prove and played like it.  

    I didn’t think about the polished angle.  I had super low expectations because of my disdain for Axl so the fact that they were on time and played hard made it a winner. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,033
    Zod said:
    I saw them in Seattle, the first tour after they got back together.  It was pretty good, so good, that I felt it was almost too polished.  I felt like they predetermined who stands where, how long you spend on each side or the middle.   It felt a little a little too smooth :)

    My favourite GNR show is actually a guns n replacements show.  It was in Edmonton around 2006.   It was old school Axl doesn't show up until after 12am kind of thing.   Any fan knows that and books the next day off work :)    The show was amazing.  We had such a good time.   It went until 2:30am in the arena.   Axl even did a Duet with Bubbles from trailer park boys.. lol.
    same tour in winnipeg. fucking sebastian bach playing until midnight, then axl and co until 3. it was epic. 
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  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    mrussel1 said:
    cp3iverson said:
    If Illusions 1 and 2 was just one album you’d have a strong argument for the best debut and follow up albums in rock history.  
    Besides it being their third release?
    Lies is 2 EPs combined.  Cp3 dont count that. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    cp3iverson said:
    mrussel1 said:
    cp3iverson said:
    If Illusions 1 and 2 was just one album you’d have a strong argument for the best debut and follow up albums in rock history.  
    Besides it being their third release?
    Lies is 2 EPs combined.  Cp3 dont count that. 
    FAKE NEWS!  Lies! is my favorite GnR work.  The acoustic side is flawless, honestly. 
  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    mrussel1 said:
    cp3iverson said:
    mrussel1 said:
    cp3iverson said:
    If Illusions 1 and 2 was just one album you’d have a strong argument for the best debut and follow up albums in rock history.  
    Besides it being their third release?
    Lies is 2 EPs combined.  Cp3 dont count that. 
    FAKE NEWS!  Lies! is my favorite GnR work.  The acoustic side is flawless, honestly. 
    I like it but you’ve got 4 songs recorded in 1986 that were already released.  Then 4 post-Appetite songs tacked on at the end.  Its like Lost Dogs to me. 
  • pearljammr78
    pearljammr78 Posts: 1,613
    While Lies has its great moments, the electric side is mostly cringe worthy cash grab by the label bullshit. One in a million, take away its homophobic and racist lyrics, is just a sorry song. Move to the city. B side at best. Actually the first three songs. 🤢🤢   If Lies didn’t have patience, it would easily have been forgotten. IMO of course. But is it even the same genetic makeup of Appetite or the Illusions. Not even same gene pool.  
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    pearljammr78 said:
    While Lies has its great moments, the electric side is mostly cringe worthy cash grab by the label bullshit. One in a million, take away its homophobic and racist lyrics, is just a sorry song. Move to the city. B side at best. Actually the first three songs. 🤢🤢   If Lies didn’t have patience, it would easily have been forgotten. IMO of course. But is it even the same genetic makeup of Appetite or the Illusions. Not even same gene pool.  
    Mama Kin cover is not cringe worthy in the least. Move to the City is good too, at least compared to lots of other shit they put out there. Even throwing away Million, I still think the other three acoustics are excellent. 
  • pearljammr78
    pearljammr78 Posts: 1,613
    edited September 2020
    The acoustic side is awesome. Used to love her is just a cool fun song. But patience made people buy that album. Mama kin. Cool. But is it the keyboard action alone on 14 years  Not even close. A garage band can cover Mama Kin. A classic band writes 3 full albums of heaven. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    pearljammr78 said:
    The acoustic side is awesome. Used to love her is just a cool fun song. But patience made people buy that album. Mama kin. Cool. But is it the keyboard action alone on 14 years  Not even close. A garage band can cover Mama Kin. A classic band writes 3 full albums of heaven. 
    Hey I think they're a bunch of aholes (Axl specifically) and spent 25 years despising them. I'm just saying of their releases,  Lies, particularly the acoustic side,  is their best work IMO. 
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,956
    I really like the acoustic side of lies too.  I kind of made an extended version by adding some of the extra acoustic tracks from the appetite box set.   Acoustic version of move to the city is awesome.   Pretty good cover of jumpin jack flash.  

    As much as I love GNR their creative window was so short.  Appetite, Lies, UYI1&2.  87 to 91.   I'm not sure why I don't dig the spaghetti incident more.  It's kind of up up my alley.  A disc primarily of punk covers.    I am curious if they'll ever put out something new with the current version of the band (or if they're going to tour on the merits of 3.5 albums forever).
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,614
    mrussel1 said:
    cp3iverson said:
    mrussel1 said:
    cp3iverson said:
    If Illusions 1 and 2 was just one album you’d have a strong argument for the best debut and follow up albums in rock history.  
    Besides it being their third release?
    Lies is 2 EPs combined.  Cp3 dont count that. 
    FAKE NEWS!  Lies! is my favorite GnR work.  The acoustic side is flawless, honestly. 
    Aside from the lyrics to One In A Million, I agree. Those have not aged well. 
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  • Kearn5y
    Kearn5y Ireland Posts: 3,056
    SmallestOceans said:
    Locomotive and Coma are two of their best imo
    Locomotive and Estranged are my to favourite GNR tunes
    Kearnsy
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,614
    Estranged is awesome. Estranged > November Rain, all day.
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