Riots/Looting/Violence and general post-George Floyd madness
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I think you are 100% right.JW269453 said:Politics is not about leading, it is about pandering. Take our likely future leader, he held his breath for 3 months about what was going on in areas around the country and just came out saying something about it. Why? Because it was a strategic move that was seen to benefit him due to recent polling data. I don't trust either side and expecting anyone to bridge the gap between the overly political in this country is nothing more than a pipe dream. From an outsiders prospective, blaming the other side is all I ever see.0 -
This is something I can’t shake. That Don Lemon clip, calling for the violence to stop because it’s showing up in the polls? That shows everything wrong with politics. And I’m not just saying that about the left. The right does the same thing. Very scary.JW269453 said:Politics is not about leading, it is about pandering. Take our likely future leader, he held his breath for 3 months about what was going on in areas around the country and just came out saying something about it. Why? Because it was a strategic move that was seen to benefit him due to recent polling data. I don't trust either side and expecting anyone to bridge the gap between the overly political in this country is nothing more than a pipe dream. From an outsiders prospective, blaming the other side is all I ever see.0 -
Of course not...and Obama either didn't blame anyone or he did something about it. It isn't that social unrest is "caused" by tRump it is that he doesn't do anything to help prevent it. And he blames democrat governors and mayors.....how stupid is that?PJPOWER said:
So Obama was to blame for the violence during his presidency? I’m assuming that you are saying that the social unrest is fully caused by the president? Will all of this violence stop once Biden is elected?josevolution said:
The buck stops with who?PJPOWER said:
Any recommendations? I haven’t seen any politicians that are innocent in that spectrum.tbergs said:
Leadership starts at the top. Let's vote for someone who can lead and quit blaming one side for everything.PJPOWER said:
It’s not really surprising when you have leaders of the groups promoting and encouraging the violence.hedonist said:There was a pro-Trump rally here yesterday (they were in cars) and someone shot at them.
How stupid do you have to be to not realize that a bullet says shit. “I’ll just shoot someone to make my point. That’ll learn ‘em!” - no matter who pulls the trigger.
People ALL OVER need to grow the fuck up. Progression through regression doesn’t seem to be working.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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Here's a screencap from the Instagram of the guy that shot the Trump supporter...where he says he's "100 % Antifa"
And apparently, early on July 5th, he was cited on allegations of possessing a loaded gun in a public place, resisting arrest and interfering with police. "He was given a date to appear in court later that month, but the allegations were dropped on July 30 with a “no complaint,” according to court records. The documents don’t indicate why prosecutors decided not to pursue the accusations. Reinoehl spent no time behind bars."
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/08/man-under-investigation-in-fatal-shooting-after-pro-trump-rally-allegedly-took-loaded-gun-to-earlier-portland-protest.html?utm_campaign=oregonian_sf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
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“He fits the profile”Ledbetterman10 said:Here's a screencap from the Instagram of the guy that shot the Trump supporter...where he says he's "100 % Antifa"
And apparently, early on July 5th, he was cited on allegations of possessing a loaded gun in a public place, resisting arrest and interfering with police. "He was given a date to appear in court later that month, but the allegations were dropped on July 30 with a “no complaint,” according to court records. The documents don’t indicate why prosecutors decided not to pursue the accusations. Reinoehl spent no time behind bars."
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/08/man-under-investigation-in-fatal-shooting-after-pro-trump-rally-allegedly-took-loaded-gun-to-earlier-portland-protest.html?utm_campaign=oregonian_sf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
“Reinoehl has stolen their mother’s seizure medication and owes a lot of debt, often giving his relatives’ addresses as his own to avoid responsibility, she said”
what a deplorable quality human being...Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
It's terrible that people are going out with the intention of killing people. Sad state of affairs for protesters and anti-protesters....which all to often in the evening become looters/vandals and vigilantes...both criminals.
And now that 1 antifa idiot has just given credibility in the minds of many to what Trump has been saying.
Lack of leadership. And the crazy thing is, somehow trump can do nothing but incite crap and then still convince people that they need him to fix the problem he started....when has he ever done that?hippiemom = goodness0 -
You're right, politics in general isn't about leading, but being the president, CEO, manager or any other "leadership" position is all about leading. That is pretty much the one goddamned thing a president needs to do, especially in times of crisis. Maybe I have selective amnesia, but I can't think of any other president who pandered to their base the way this idiot has done during national emergencies. Obama, Bush, Clinton; none of them blamed red or blue solely for the problem. Sure, maybe their words didn't always result in long term change because a president alone can't snap their fingers and eliminate a problem, but their response mattered, and so does this shitbag's, only it's the worst and most pathetic response out of the numerous opportunities to lead he's been given.JW269453 said:Politics is not about leading, it is about pandering. Take our likely future leader, he held his breath for 3 months about what was going on in areas around the country and just came out saying something about it. Why? Because it was a strategic move that was seen to benefit him due to recent polling data. I don't trust either side and expecting anyone to bridge the gap between the overly political in this country is nothing more than a pipe dream. From an outsiders prospective, blaming the other side is all I ever see.
I'm really tired of people trying to make this about both sides. You've been manipulated in to being a passive mouthpiece that continues the status quo. No candidate is good enough, so why vote? That candidate said this, this one did that, so I can't vote for them. Well, unfortunately one side is going to get the person they want in the oval office. You can either play a part in that or sew your lips shut for the next 4 years because you choose not to participate. I definitely will not agree with everything Biden does or says, but I damn sure guarantee he will not try to build the divide between conservatives and liberals. That is the only product the current president is good at promoting. It's sickening.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
a leader's first goal should always be to inspire those he leads to be leaders themselves, good people who make good decisions. sure, he's also there to create and implement policy. but creating policy does nothing if you can't inspire your flock to follow that policy.
trump doesn't inspire. he instigates. those that follow him don't know the difference.
obama was that type of inspiring leader. was he the best president? i don't know. but i do know he was a great speaker and he literally inspired millions to be better people, better americans. fuck, he inspired this canadian to be a better person (and so does michelle).
THAT is a leader.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Posted this in the Biden thread but I guess it could go here to. What's going on here?
http://www.antifa.com
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Ledbetterman10 said:Posted this in the Biden thread but I guess it could go here to. What's going on here?
http://www.antifa.com
If you don't trust my link, just type it into your browser yourself.
Strange indeed! WTF?
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My guess is that someone (who may not even be affiliated with the Biden campaign) bought that URL and set it up to redirect to Biden's website? Or...it could very much be someone affiliated with the campaign. Or it could even be an agitator trying to link Antifa to Biden. Who knows? But it's very strange.brianlux said:
Strange indeed! WTF?Ledbetterman10 said:Posted this in the Biden thread but I guess it could go here to. What's going on here?
http://www.antifa.com
If you don't trust my link, just type it into your browser yourself.
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I realize that every person walking this earth is unique due to their upbringing, experiences and the workings of that mass between their ears and I would never discredit them based on filling out a ballot or choosing not to. Divide is what keeps the 2 parties relevant, do you really think this is something new? I've been told it was my fault trump was elected because I don't vote, I wonder if those same people think it was my fault obama was elected? Nope, it is just something those who didn't get their way use as an excuse on their very long lists. I can deal with whatever decision our sacred voters decide because I don't put myself above anyone else, maybe it is time the voters start learning how to deal with the end result as well. And yes that still applies to both sides. I would like to know who in this country is manipulating us non voters though, the only people trying to speak to us are those who want nothing more than our votes.tbergs said:
You're right, politics in general isn't about leading, but being the president, CEO, manager or any other "leadership" position is all about leading. That is pretty much the one goddamned thing a president needs to do, especially in times of crisis. Maybe I have selective amnesia, but I can't think of any other president who pandered to their base the way this idiot has done during national emergencies. Obama, Bush, Clinton; none of them blamed red or blue solely for the problem. Sure, maybe their words didn't always result in long term change because a president alone can't snap their fingers and eliminate a problem, but their response mattered, and so does this shitbag's, only it's the worst and most pathetic response out of the numerous opportunities to lead he's been given.JW269453 said:Politics is not about leading, it is about pandering. Take our likely future leader, he held his breath for 3 months about what was going on in areas around the country and just came out saying something about it. Why? Because it was a strategic move that was seen to benefit him due to recent polling data. I don't trust either side and expecting anyone to bridge the gap between the overly political in this country is nothing more than a pipe dream. From an outsiders prospective, blaming the other side is all I ever see.
I'm really tired of people trying to make this about both sides. You've been manipulated in to being a passive mouthpiece that continues the status quo. No candidate is good enough, so why vote? That candidate said this, this one did that, so I can't vote for them. Well, unfortunately one side is going to get the person they want in the oval office. You can either play a part in that or sew your lips shut for the next 4 years because you choose not to participate. I definitely will not agree with everything Biden does or says, but I damn sure guarantee he will not try to build the divide between conservatives and liberals. That is the only product the current president is good at promoting. It's sickening.
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Or maybe Putin on the ritz? Funny how the DNI will no longer do in person briefings of security threats to our elections to members of Congress. Why is that? Who made that decision? Who does that benefit more? Nothing to see here.Ledbetterman10 said:
My guess is that someone (who may not even be affiliated with the Biden campaign) bought that URL and set it up to redirect to Biden's website? Or...it could very much be someone affiliated with the campaign. Or it could even be an agitator trying to link Antifa to Biden. Who knows? But it's very strange.brianlux said:
Strange indeed! WTF?Ledbetterman10 said:Posted this in the Biden thread but I guess it could go here to. What's going on here?
http://www.antifa.com
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“Mostly Peaceful” protestors cheering that a Trump supporter was murdered.
https://mobile.twitter.com/elijahschaffer/status/1300078899297161216?s=10
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That is exactly what happened.Ledbetterman10 said:
My guess is that someone (who may not even be affiliated with the Biden campaign) bought that URL and set it up to redirect to Biden's website? Or...it could very much be someone affiliated with the campaign. Or it could even be an agitator trying to link Antifa to Biden. Who knows? But it's very strange.brianlux said:
Strange indeed! WTF?Ledbetterman10 said:Posted this in the Biden thread but I guess it could go here to. What's going on here?
http://www.antifa.com
If you don't trust my link, just type it into your browser yourself.
I can't believe that people actually believe that Antifa is actually a thing.
All Antifa is is the boogeyman that the piece-of-shit-in-chief says is sleeping under your bed.
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unfortunately this is where it's headed. with the right calling kyle whatshisname a hero for murdering those two people, and this. it's disgusting.mace1229 said:“Mostly Peaceful” protestors cheering that a Trump supporter was murdered.
https://mobile.twitter.com/elijahschaffer/status/1300078899297161216?s=10By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
lol, just a figment of Trump's imagination.Bentleyspop said:
That is exactly what happened.Ledbetterman10 said:
My guess is that someone (who may not even be affiliated with the Biden campaign) bought that URL and set it up to redirect to Biden's website? Or...it could very much be someone affiliated with the campaign. Or it could even be an agitator trying to link Antifa to Biden. Who knows? But it's very strange.brianlux said:
Strange indeed! WTF?Ledbetterman10 said:Posted this in the Biden thread but I guess it could go here to. What's going on here?
http://www.antifa.com
If you don't trust my link, just type it into your browser yourself.
I can't believe that people actually believe that Antifa is actually a thing.
All Antifa is is the boogeyman that the piece-of-shit-in-chief says is sleeping under your bed.
Antifa and MS-13 and SOCIALISTS OH MY!!
It's a thing. It's just a hodgepodge of angry twenty-somethings with no rhyme, reason, organization, or leadership to it....but it's a thing.
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