Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez

cincybearcat · August 2020

dignin said:

cincybearcat said:

dignin said:

AOC making her eager detractors look like fools.

She continues to kick ass and take names.

What about her little speech was her kicking ass and taking names exactly? I mean what’s with the love affair?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/19/media/aoc-nbc-news-tweet/index.html

You guys should just stop, it's getting embarrassing.

You didn't answer my question.

I'm kinda confused. I was happy she was left with a small part of the convention. Seconding the nomination of the loser. I understand that is the process. So what about her speech was "kicking ass and taking names?"

I never said anything about her not endorsing Biden or anything. You are creating a fake scenario around my comment and my question.

She did kick jobs asses I guess. But I don't consider that a good thing.

nicknyr15 · August 2020

cincybearcat said:

dignin said:

cincybearcat said:

dignin said:

AOC making her eager detractors look like fools.

She continues to kick ass and take names.

What about her little speech was her kicking ass and taking names exactly? I mean what’s with the love affair?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/19/media/aoc-nbc-news-tweet/index.html

You guys should just stop, it's getting embarrassing.

You didn't answer my question.

I'm kinda confused. I was happy she was left with a small part of the convention. Seconding the nomination of the loser. I understand that is the process. So what about her speech was "kicking ass and taking names?"

I never said anything about her not endorsing Biden or anything. You are creating a fake scenario around my comment and my question.

She did kick jobs asses I guess. But I don't consider that a good thing.

Yea. And I even apologized for my original post. Even though I apologized I still despise her. She says obnoxious things to rile up her base and tweets constantly. Sound familiar?

Gern Blansten · August 2020

cincybearcat said:

I thought it was great they limited AOC to seconding the losing candidate.

Pretty sure she was honored to nominate Sanders.

static111 · August 2020

Lol that wasn’t a rant. That was a pretty well thought out counter to an obviously biased story that was taken out of context to make her look bad. I suppose when it comes to successful young women of color some people will look for anything to try to justify their dislike.

nicknyr15 · August 2020

static111 said:

Lol that wasn’t a rant. That was a pretty well thought out counter to an obviously biased story that was taken out of context to make her look bad. I suppose when it comes to successful young women of color some people will look for anything to try to justify their dislike.

Yes. It’s definitely because of her race, age and gender. It must be.

Halifax2TheMax · August 2020

nicknyr15 said:

static111 said:

Lol that wasn’t a rant. That was a pretty well thought out counter to an obviously biased story that was taken out of context to make her look bad. I suppose when it comes to successful young women of color some people will look for anything to try to justify their dislike.

Yes. It’s definitely because of her race, age and gender. It must be.

Well, it’s not because of her obnoxious tweets to rile up her base. Unless you consider providing constituent services as obnoxious?

https://mobile.twitter.com/repaoc

Smellyman · August 2020

JW269453 said:

That twitter rant was very trumpy.
AOC 2024
“Kicking Ass and Taking Names”

other than one is factual and one is not they are exactly the same

FiveBelow · August 2020

Smellyman said:

JW269453 said:

That twitter rant was very trumpy.
AOC 2024
“Kicking Ass and Taking Names”

other than one is factual and one is not they are exactly the same

There was nothing factual about my comment, it was purely opinionative.

dignin · August 2020

She managed to positively own the news cycle from a minute endorsement speech, because her detractors were tripping over themselves to wrongly criticize her. Further showing how important she is and how she's going to continue to be a major player in American politics going forward.

You don't have to "love her" to figure this out.

This is pretty easy stuff to understand. She doesn't even have to try.

Comparing her to Trump is just complete nonsense and makes people look even more foolish, but by all means, continue on, it's only going to make her a bigger deal and more formidable.

mrussel1 · August 2020

dignin said:

She managed to positively own the news cycle from a minute endorsement speech, because her detractors were tripping over themselves to wrongly criticize her. Further showing how important she is and how she's going to continue to be a major player in American politics going forward.

You don't have to "love her" to figure this out.

This is pretty easy stuff to understand. She doesn't even have to try.

Comparing her to Trump is just complete nonsense and makes people look even more foolish, but by all means, continue on, it's only going to make her a bigger deal and more formidable.

We know she has the media management thing down. But that doesn't necessarily mean she'll be a successful legislator. We'll need to wait and see there.

dignin · August 2020

mrussel1 said:

dignin said:

She managed to positively own the news cycle from a minute endorsement speech, because her detractors were tripping over themselves to wrongly criticize her. Further showing how important she is and how she's going to continue to be a major player in American politics going forward.

You don't have to "love her" to figure this out.

This is pretty easy stuff to understand. She doesn't even have to try.

Comparing her to Trump is just complete nonsense and makes people look even more foolish, but by all means, continue on, it's only going to make her a bigger deal and more formidable.

We know she has the media management thing down. But that doesn't necessarily mean she'll be a successful legislator. We'll need to wait and see there.

Let's not forget her work during hearings. Very impressive. Also clear evidence that she has helped pull the DNC to the left, which will show itself legislatively, assuming the Democrats take back more power in the fall.

One of her main advantages so far is people keep underestimating her, to their detriment.

mrussel1 · August 2020

dignin said:

mrussel1 said:

dignin said:

She managed to positively own the news cycle from a minute endorsement speech, because her detractors were tripping over themselves to wrongly criticize her. Further showing how important she is and how she's going to continue to be a major player in American politics going forward.

You don't have to "love her" to figure this out.

This is pretty easy stuff to understand. She doesn't even have to try.

Comparing her to Trump is just complete nonsense and makes people look even more foolish, but by all means, continue on, it's only going to make her a bigger deal and more formidable.

We know she has the media management thing down. But that doesn't necessarily mean she'll be a successful legislator. We'll need to wait and see there.

Let's not forget her work during hearings. Very impressive. Also clear evidence that she has helped pull the DNC to the left, which will show itself legislatively, assuming the Democrats take back more power in the fall.

One of her main advantages so far is people keep underestimating her, to their detriment.

I don't know how she is pulling vs Sanders or whether I consider that an accomplishment or not. I thought her work in hearings was fine, but probably exaggerated because of her media status. In other words was it better or worse than the average representative? Who can say without watching it all.
I haven't followed this particular issue at all, but I think her star power has led her to mistakes. In particular the coup attempt against Nancy and the Amazon issue.

Halifax2TheMax · August 2020

mrussel1 said:

dignin said:

mrussel1 said:

dignin said:

She managed to positively own the news cycle from a minute endorsement speech, because her detractors were tripping over themselves to wrongly criticize her. Further showing how important she is and how she's going to continue to be a major player in American politics going forward.

You don't have to "love her" to figure this out.

This is pretty easy stuff to understand. She doesn't even have to try.

Comparing her to Trump is just complete nonsense and makes people look even more foolish, but by all means, continue on, it's only going to make her a bigger deal and more formidable.

We know she has the media management thing down. But that doesn't necessarily mean she'll be a successful legislator. We'll need to wait and see there.

Let's not forget her work during hearings. Very impressive. Also clear evidence that she has helped pull the DNC to the left, which will show itself legislatively, assuming the Democrats take back more power in the fall.

One of her main advantages so far is people keep underestimating her, to their detriment.

I don't know how she is pulling vs Sanders or whether I consider that an accomplishment or not. I thought her work in hearings was fine, but probably exaggerated because of her media status. In other words was it better or worse than the average representative? Who can say without watching it all.
I haven't followed this particular issue at all, but I think her star power has led her to mistakes. In particular the coup attempt against Nancy and the Amazon issue.

The torch is in the process of being passed to the next generation. The question remains, will progressives continue to pick up seats and in particular, seats in "fly over country?" If the answer is yes, AOC is here to stay and becomes the defacto leader of the party, barring glaring mistakes or policy overreach. I tend to believe the progressive dems are building the grassroots movement required to sustain the momentum. Speak with high schoolers and 20 somethings and you'll get a sense of how important college tuition costs, climate change, access to affordable healthcare, equal rights for all, etc. are to them. And they're attuned, informed and activated. Nancy & Chuck won't live forever, unless you believe QAnon and sucking the blood of abused children.

cincybearcat · August 2020

Sheesh all this cause I thought it was great she was regulated to the role of seconding the nomination of the loser. Which I still think is terrific and very smart of the Biden campaign.

Some think she showed she is the future of the party. Perhaps. I hope not, cause I'm trying to wrap my head around joining the Dem party since the Republican party has ceased to exist as it was once known. But I'm just a visitor so up to the party to decide what they want to be. I'm not a fan of her politics. I'm a fan of her poise.

mrussel1 · August 2020

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

dignin said:

mrussel1 said:

dignin said:

She managed to positively own the news cycle from a minute endorsement speech, because her detractors were tripping over themselves to wrongly criticize her. Further showing how important she is and how she's going to continue to be a major player in American politics going forward.

You don't have to "love her" to figure this out.

This is pretty easy stuff to understand. She doesn't even have to try.

Comparing her to Trump is just complete nonsense and makes people look even more foolish, but by all means, continue on, it's only going to make her a bigger deal and more formidable.

We know she has the media management thing down. But that doesn't necessarily mean she'll be a successful legislator. We'll need to wait and see there.

Let's not forget her work during hearings. Very impressive. Also clear evidence that she has helped pull the DNC to the left, which will show itself legislatively, assuming the Democrats take back more power in the fall.

One of her main advantages so far is people keep underestimating her, to their detriment.

I don't know how she is pulling vs Sanders or whether I consider that an accomplishment or not. I thought her work in hearings was fine, but probably exaggerated because of her media status. In other words was it better or worse than the average representative? Who can say without watching it all.
I haven't followed this particular issue at all, but I think her star power has led her to mistakes. In particular the coup attempt against Nancy and the Amazon issue.

The torch is in the process of being passed to the next generation. The question remains, will progressives continue to pick up seats and in particular, seats in "fly over country?" If the answer is yes, AOC is here to stay and becomes the defacto leader of the party, barring glaring mistakes or policy overreach. I tend to believe the progressive dems are building the grassroots movement required to sustain the momentum. Speak with high schoolers and 20 somethings and you'll get a sense of how important college tuition costs, climate change, access to affordable healthcare, equal rights for all, etc. are to them. And they're attuned, informed and activated. Nancy & Chuck won't live forever, unless you believe QAnon and sucking the blood of abused children.

1. Yes, I do believe in QAnon and the blood sucking. Or at least I heard about them and think they like me, so that's good.
2. Generally agree with everything you say.

static111 · August 2020

In my opinion if you think Ocasio-Cortez failed because of Amazon I don’t think you understand the future of the progressive movement. The last thing that people who support Ocasio-Cortez want is another corporation taking millions of dollars in corporate handouts to operate at a loss while under compensating employees and not providing good conditions for workers. She did exactly what her constituents voted her in to do, and what the progressive movement at large is fighting for. Not a mistake or a loss in the eyes of the movement that she is becoming the face of.

what dreams · August 2020

nicknyr15 said:

static111 said:

Lol that wasn’t a rant. That was a pretty well thought out counter to an obviously biased story that was taken out of context to make her look bad. I suppose when it comes to successful young women of color some people will look for anything to try to justify their dislike.

Yes. It’s definitely because of her race, age and gender. It must be.

I second that.

what dreams · August 2020

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

dignin said:

mrussel1 said:

dignin said:

She managed to positively own the news cycle from a minute endorsement speech, because her detractors were tripping over themselves to wrongly criticize her. Further showing how important she is and how she's going to continue to be a major player in American politics going forward.

You don't have to "love her" to figure this out.

This is pretty easy stuff to understand. She doesn't even have to try.

Comparing her to Trump is just complete nonsense and makes people look even more foolish, but by all means, continue on, it's only going to make her a bigger deal and more formidable.

We know she has the media management thing down. But that doesn't necessarily mean she'll be a successful legislator. We'll need to wait and see there.

Let's not forget her work during hearings. Very impressive. Also clear evidence that she has helped pull the DNC to the left, which will show itself legislatively, assuming the Democrats take back more power in the fall.

One of her main advantages so far is people keep underestimating her, to their detriment.

I don't know how she is pulling vs Sanders or whether I consider that an accomplishment or not. I thought her work in hearings was fine, but probably exaggerated because of her media status. In other words was it better or worse than the average representative? Who can say without watching it all.
I haven't followed this particular issue at all, but I think her star power has led her to mistakes. In particular the coup attempt against Nancy and the Amazon issue.

The torch is in the process of being passed to the next generation. The question remains, will progressives continue to pick up seats and in particular, seats in "fly over country?" If the answer is yes, AOC is here to stay and becomes the defacto leader of the party, barring glaring mistakes or policy overreach. I tend to believe the progressive dems are building the grassroots movement required to sustain the momentum. Speak with high schoolers and 20 somethings and you'll get a sense of how important college tuition costs, climate change, access to affordable healthcare, equal rights for all, etc. are to them. And they're attuned, informed and activated. Nancy & Chuck won't live forever, unless you believe QAnon and sucking the blood of abused children.

Which generation are we passing leader torches? Isn't there an entire generation of leaders in between the near dead Boomers and barely out of their braces Millennials? I'm kind of done with an entire generation being left out as a vital part of the equation at age 50 (like Ms. Harris).

I like young people, their energy, and their righteousness on a variety of issues like the environment and mass shootings. I cannot stand the hubris of anyone thinking at 30 that she deserves to be *in charge* of the conversation. A part of the conversation? Yes. Take your 60 seconds of spotlight and learn from the experience -- so that when you're 50 and you have 20 more years under your belt, you have some more wisdom to lead others.

I remember an important mentoring moment when I was 30 and had thrown a temper tantrum at work when an older 50-ish superior approached me repeatedly with condescension about how to do my job better. Her much older superior (the head of school) pulled me in and said, "Yes, she treated you like a child. And then you acted like one." I was a complete upstart and needed guidance and thank goodness a much older person was there to guide me. She gave me several other fantastic pieces of advice.

So my advice for AOC? If she doesn't want to be treated like a child, she should stop acting like one.

Nothing to do with woman's color. That's the most ridiculous fucking thing said in this whole thread about her.

oftenreading · August 2020

Nothing that I’ve seen leads me to conclude that AOC is acting like a child.

what dreams · August 2020

oftenreading said:

Nothing that I’ve seen leads me to conclude that AOC is acting like a child.

Why is it that the only time this thread opens back up is when she explodes on someone, or about something, on Twitter? Maybe not to you, but to me, that is childish. I would suggest she's not such the master of media people would like us to believe. If she were such a master at it, the entire country would be in love with her. We're not.

Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez

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