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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i saw a tweet last night that said something like "steve king continues to support the confederacy by getting destroyed on his home turf".
    Off topic of Republicans, but on topic with Confederates... did any of you watch the three part Grant series on History channel last week?  I thought it was really well done.  And it brings up such an interesting point about southern historians (they have dominated the field historically) lionizing Lee and trashing Grant historically.  He was a great, great general and definitely a strategic equal. 
    Was he? Considering how overmatched the confederacy was in both troops and resources, and how long they lasted, I think there's an argument for Lee as the superior general. That said, if the Union stuck with that loser McClellan rather than going with Grant, the confederacy probably would won, so Grant deserves his credit too.

    As for southern historians, my friend lives in Arlington, VA and he says that his daughter in high school is taught about the Civil War very differently that I was taught in Pennsylvania. They're taught that the poor confederacy just wanted to be their own country and that warmonger Lincoln wouldn't have it, and sicced his army on them. 
    First, yes an equal.  Grant didn't take over in the East until 1864.  Before that, it was the string of McClellan, Hooker, etc.  But in the west, where Grant was, he was enormously successful, particularly in Shiloh and Vicksburg.  You can't overestimate the importance of the siege of Vicksburg. Now maybe Lee was tactically a little better, the way he had the Army of NOVA so nimble, but once Grant pinned him down in Petersburg, Lee could not stop him from cutting Richmond and the troops off from the supply lines.  That's the strategic genius part, along with directing Sherman through Atlanta, another critical victory.  

    As far as your friend, I'm surprised in Arlington it is taught differently still today.  My guess is that will continue to change as Richmond and north is pretty much a Union state now.  NOVA in particular is dark blue.  
    He lives not far from the Robert Lee Memorial House. So maybe his section of town is still "South." I dunno. It's all pretty weird down there. But interesting. I've visited most of the battle sites. Even hit a joint where Stonewall Jackson was shot. 
    I actually lived 10 minutes from Chancellorsville for a few  years, when I was commuting between DC and Richmond.  It's a crazy that they fought that battle along with the Wilderness in those woods.  To this day, it's thick and practically impassable, as you probably remember.  I would not call it 'weird' though!  I grew up in Cleveland so I actually love being so close to so many Civil War and Revolutionary sites.  
    I think I have pictures from the Chancellorsville battle site, but I could have my sites confused. Any of these look familiar?


    I think your photos are from Caroline county, 30 min south of the battle.  This is where Jackson died.  I don't recall ever going there, but htat looks like the house where Jackson died.  The actual battle was in Spotsylvania County and it was total woods, and still is today since it is preserved as a historical site.  
    No this isn't the house where Jackson died. This house was owned by an old woman and it was destroyed by mistake (and rebuilt for tourism reasons). The woman, her daughter, and her slave were killed. I wish I remembered where exactly it was. All I know is the two armies kinda ran into each other on her property, and a battle broke out. 
    I see.  Hard to say, that doesn't look familiar.  I do know Chance and the Wilderness are right on top of each other, both were horrible battles and both were heavily wooded.  So that could be in the same area, but just in a clearing.  
    Yeah I wish I remembered. It's not by Wildnerness. For reference since you probably know the area well, if you leave Arlington (where my friend lives), I think it took a little over an hour to get to Wilderness. Wherever this place is in my pictures, it was only about 20 minutes from Arlington. It's a nice place actually. I'd recommend visiting it...if I knew exactly where the hell it was. 

    Edit: I just sent the picture to my friend. He said it's Manassas. 
    Ah. Manassas... or in the North we'd call it Bull Run.  It's exactly 20 min south right by the monstrous IKEA!
    I live in Manassas. It's not right by the IKEA. That's Woodbridge.

    And while it's true the rest of NOVA is solidly blue, the city of Manassas is nothing like the rest of NOVA. The county where Manassas is the seat, Prince William, just turned blue for the first time ever in the 2019 local election, and the chairwoman is not winning friends and influencing people with her slash and burn style of governing. I expect a backlash in the next local election. A guy I dated in high school ran and lost in the Republican primary for her job. He ran as the moderate against another guy who aligned himself with outgoing chair Corey Stewart, one of the loudest supporters of Trump's anti immigration policies and one of the first in the nation to institute a local agreement with ICE, back around 2004, I think it was. My current district supervisor is a Latina Republican, first generation American, a former sheriff's deputy married to a military man. She also supports ICE deportations for people pulled over for traffic stops, etc.

    There is a terrible divide between cultural groups here -- Confederate flag flying mask-haters, an African American community many of whom come from families who have also been around forever, a tsunami wave of both documented and undocumented immigrants from Central America. There's a growing Muslim population who have moved in after getting a mosque built in the more rural part of the county, which the white people fought tooth and nail but lost because the Muslims had a lot of money to offer. Mix in a few millenial hipster families and a few more military families who can't afford Fairfax County housing. For them, the City Council of Manassas has recently gentrified the quaint little town, but we called it Manass-hole when I was growing up because it was a dump in the 80s.  

    To illustrate this recent divide and cultural upheaval, I graduated in 88 from a practically all white Stonewall Jackson High School. Our football team defensive line called themselves The Wall. We were the Raiders. Yes, we learned about the War of Northern Aggression. Denver Riggleman, the libertarian House Rep who lost the 5th Congressional District Republican primary this past month, graduated in my class, another fun fact.  Now the school is practically all Spanish, Title I, and most of the middle class white families either moved further west or send their kids to private school. My own brother moved to Culpeper last year because, in his words, "I'm tired of looking at brown people every where I go." He lived behind Stonewall Jackson Middle School and sold the house to a Spanish family. Of course a name change for both schools is now being discussed, as it is everywhere, and I predict it will probably happen as a symbolic gesture.

    They can change the names all they want, but the whacko political culture of Manassas overall is not going to change in my lifetime. It has a lovely battlefield, sure, great for hiking, one of the few public green spaces left in the county. But I have to maintain a tremendous sense of humor to live here. It is very difficult to navigate the changes and the resistance to the changes without losing my mind on a fairly regular basis. 
  • mickeyrat
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    this a fucking travesty.....


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  • Bentleyspop
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    mickeyrat said:
    this a fucking travesty.....


    4 years ago I tried warning people especially the Bernie bros that this would happen. That no matter what happened for the next 4 or 8 years his legacy would last for decades because of all.the conservative judicial appointments that would occur on his watch. From SCOTUS on down to the lowliest appeals court.

    SAD
  • mickeyrat
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    this a fucking travesty.....


    4 years ago I tried warning people especially the Bernie bros that this would happen. That no matter what happened for the next 4 or 8 years his legacy would last for decades because of all.the conservative judicial appointments that would occur on his watch. From SCOTUS on down to the lowliest appeals court.

    SAD
    theres a call out to those approaching retirement age that they step down now ...
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Here's a story about GW Bush officials that are going to publicly back Biden.


    I would love to see a little less unity in the GOP. 

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  • Ledbetterman10
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    OnWis97 said:
    Here's a story about GW Bush officials that are going to publicly back Biden.


    I would love to see a little less unity in the GOP.  
    Bush HIMSELF needs to back Biden. It's neck and neck in Texas right now and I've been saying Biden's going to win Texas. An endorsement from Bush could put him over the top there. And it also could have a good nationwide influence on normal Republicans. The Trump fans are going to be Trump fans and will vote for him. But many Republicans seem to want off the ship. 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    edited July 2020
    (Gosh darnit; I still can't post while quoting...or at least while quoting Ledbetterman)

    I'm curious as to what most Republicans think of Bush at this point.  His 18-month post-9/11 honeymoon is long over. Since most conservative/Republican voices I stumble upon are pro-Trump, I feel like anyone that does not kiss Trump's feet are dismissed as RINOs.  That said, I know that the loudest voices in America are those of the hard core Trumpers. So when it feels to me like Republicans now hate, say, Mitt Romney, maybe it's just the loud Trump wing of the party.

    Maybe someone like Bush could move the needle with enough non-MAGA-hat owners that just vote Republican all the time and aren't necessarily cognizant of how dangerous this administration is.
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    OnWis97 said:
    (Gosh darnit; I still can't post while quoting...or at least while quoting Ledbetterman)

    I'm curious as to what most Republicans think of Bush at this point.  His 18-month post-9/11 honeymoon is long over. Since most conservative/Republican voices I stumble upon are pro-Trump, I feel like anyone that does not kiss Trump's feet are dismissed as RINOs.  That said, I know that the loudest voices in America are those of the hard core Trumpers. So when it feels to me like Republicans now hate, say, Mitt Romney, maybe it's just the loud Trump wing of the party.

    Maybe someone like Bush could move the needle with enough non-MAGA-hat owners that just vote Republican all the time and aren't necessarily cognizant of how dangerous this administration is.
    You using mobile? It seems like this site doesn't work nearly as good on a phone as it does on a desktop.

    I'm not sure what they think about Bush. But if nothing else, just by comparison, he has to seem good to them compared to Trump. Sure the Trump-lovers would begin making anti-Bush memes or something if he endorsed Biden. But I think your typical Republican can at least respect that Bush is an ACTUAL Republican (unlike Trump) that does have the party's (and country's) best interest in mind. We all know Bush's faults. We don't have to rehash the Iraq War. But at least he's a gentleman and a statesman. That seems like a low-bar for a president, but after Trump, something so simple might resonate with people. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    This is what Bush repubs want out and off from. Watch the two clips of Team Trump Treason answer Hannity’s softball questions with complete non-answers. How can someone who is running for POTUS be unable to articulate their agenda?

    https://apple.news/AUScGw2WXTpqz7rY7Tuk_0Q

    After Bush gave Angela Merkel an unwanted shoulder rub, she thought America couldn’t do any worse. Boy, was she wrong.
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  • mrussel1
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    OnWis97 said:
    (Gosh darnit; I still can't post while quoting...or at least while quoting Ledbetterman)

    I'm curious as to what most Republicans think of Bush at this point.  His 18-month post-9/11 honeymoon is long over. Since most conservative/Republican voices I stumble upon are pro-Trump, I feel like anyone that does not kiss Trump's feet are dismissed as RINOs.  That said, I know that the loudest voices in America are those of the hard core Trumpers. So when it feels to me like Republicans now hate, say, Mitt Romney, maybe it's just the loud Trump wing of the party.

    Maybe someone like Bush could move the needle with enough non-MAGA-hat owners that just vote Republican all the time and aren't necessarily cognizant of how dangerous this administration is.
    Interesting point.  I think Trump has been purposeful in his condemnation of the Bush's, particularly early on as he wanted to create a wall around him, with no link to previous administrations.  It's how he can do what he want without damaging the base, as he's already discredited them early on.  I agree that it would show high integrity for Bush to do such a thing, and I wouldn't put it past him.  But I don't know how many votes it moves at this point. 
  • jeffbr
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    edited July 2020
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    (Gosh darnit; I still can't post while quoting...or at least while quoting Ledbetterman)

    I'm curious as to what most Republicans think of Bush at this point.  His 18-month post-9/11 honeymoon is long over. Since most conservative/Republican voices I stumble upon are pro-Trump, I feel like anyone that does not kiss Trump's feet are dismissed as RINOs.  That said, I know that the loudest voices in America are those of the hard core Trumpers. So when it feels to me like Republicans now hate, say, Mitt Romney, maybe it's just the loud Trump wing of the party.

    Maybe someone like Bush could move the needle with enough non-MAGA-hat owners that just vote Republican all the time and aren't necessarily cognizant of how dangerous this administration is.
    Interesting point.  I think Trump has been purposeful in his condemnation of the Bush's, particularly early on as he wanted to create a wall around him, with no link to previous administrations.  It's how he can do what he want without damaging the base, as he's already discredited them early on.  I agree that it would show high integrity for Bush to do such a thing, and I wouldn't put it past him.  But I don't know how many votes it moves at this point. 
    Hit post too soon. To piggyback off the other post, From The Hill today:

    Alumni of George W. Bush administration launch pro-Biden super PAC

    Hundreds of former members of the George W. Bush administration have formed a super PAC to support former Vice President Joe Biden, saying they are alarmed by President Trump’s conduct in office.

    The group, dubbed 43 Alumni for Joe Biden, officially launched Wednesday. The group includes former Cabinet officials and other senior administration members who say they think the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee can “restore dignity” to the White House.

    I do think that having traditional, respected conservative Republicans forming this PAC and getting good messaging out to the GOP may indeed move the needle. Not with members of Cult 45, but with the rest of the GOP and those who are undecided and/or identify independent because they are now embarrassed to identify as Republican.



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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    jeffbr said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    (Gosh darnit; I still can't post while quoting...or at least while quoting Ledbetterman)

    I'm curious as to what most Republicans think of Bush at this point.  His 18-month post-9/11 honeymoon is long over. Since most conservative/Republican voices I stumble upon are pro-Trump, I feel like anyone that does not kiss Trump's feet are dismissed as RINOs.  That said, I know that the loudest voices in America are those of the hard core Trumpers. So when it feels to me like Republicans now hate, say, Mitt Romney, maybe it's just the loud Trump wing of the party.

    Maybe someone like Bush could move the needle with enough non-MAGA-hat owners that just vote Republican all the time and aren't necessarily cognizant of how dangerous this administration is.
    Interesting point.  I think Trump has been purposeful in his condemnation of the Bush's, particularly early on as he wanted to create a wall around him, with no link to previous administrations.  It's how he can do what he want without damaging the base, as he's already discredited them early on.  I agree that it would show high integrity for Bush to do such a thing, and I wouldn't put it past him.  But I don't know how many votes it moves at this point. 
    From The Hill today:

    Alumni of George W. Bush administration launch pro-Biden super PAC

    Hundreds of former members of the George W. Bush administration have formed a super PAC to support former Vice President Joe Biden, saying they are alarmed by President Trump’s conduct in office.

    The group, dubbed 43 Alumni for Joe Biden, officially launched Wednesday. The group includes former Cabinet officials and other senior administration members who say they think the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee can “restore dignity” to the White House.

    Ouch.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Pay particular attention to Lindsey Flimsy Flip Flop Faloozy's response. What a pathetic party they've become.

    July 6, 2020 at 7:04 p.m. EDT
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    The silence is deafening.

    President Trump has gone in the past several weeks from racist dog whistles to an all-out Confederate bugle call with a rebel yell — and yet his Republican enablers in Congress continue determinedly to cover their ears.

    He retweets a video in which a man shouts “white power” and later deletes but never disavows it. He talks of the pandemic as “kung flu,” calls for violence against “thugs” in the streets of Minneapolis and labels a sign proclaiming “Black Lives Matter” a “symbol of hate.” He threatens to veto a defense bill if it removes the names of Confederate generals from U.S. military bases.

    In the past few days, he has declared that those marching under “the banner of social justice” are part of a “radical ideology attacking our country” and are “bad, evil people” seeking “to end America” in favor of “far-left fascism.” And he has attacked NASCAR for banning the Confederate flag and said its only black full-time driver should “apologize” for a “hoax” after a noose found in his garage was determined not to have been directed at him.

    Yet from Republican officeholders, nothing.

    “President Trump’s unyielding push to preserve Confederate symbols and the legacy of white domination,” The Post’s Robert Costa and Philip Rucker wrote on Independence Day, “has unnerved Republicans who have long enabled him but now fear losing power and forever associating their party with his racial animus.”

    Unnerved, but inaudible. “On Capitol Hill, some Republicans fret — mostly privately, to avoid his wrath — that Trump’s fixation on racial and other cultural issues leaves their party running against the currents of change,” Costa and Rucker wrote.

    So Trump’s enablers are unnerved by his overt racism — not because it’s despicable on its face but because they fear losing power. And the enablers fret, but in private.

    The silence, often attributed to cowardice, is really complicity. As I’ve noted, racial resentment has become the primary driver and predictor of support for the Republican Party, a trend that has accelerated under Trump. If Republican lawmakers continue to “fret privately” as Trump bases his reelection on clumsy racist demagoguery, they must be held to account for condoning the redefinition of the GOP as the new home of the white power movement. Their silence isn’t just enabling Trump; it’s also enabling white supremacy to hijack a major American political party.

    So let’s hold them to account.

    On Monday, I emailed the campaigns of the 11 Republican senators who face potentially competitive reelections this year: Susan Collins (Maine), Thom Tillis (N.C.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Kelly Loeffler (Ga.), David Perdue (Ga.), John Cornyn (Texas), Joni Ernst (Iowa), Mitch McConnell (Ky.), Cory Gardner (Colo.), Martha McSally (Ariz.) and Steve Daines (Mont.). (Disclosure: My wife, a Democratic pollster, has clients in the Colorado and Arizona races.)

    Noting that Republican members of Congress have been privately fretting about Trump’s racism, I invited each of the senators to comment on statements Trump has made in recent weeks:

    · Decrying schools, newsrooms and corporate boardrooms for a “new far-left fascism … designed to overthrow the American Revolution.”

    · Saying: “The unhinged left-wing mob is trying to vandalize our history, desecrate our monuments, our beautiful monuments, tear down our statues, and punish, cancel and persecute anyone who does not conform. … They want to demolish our heritage.”

    · Proclaiming: “The radical ideology attacking our country advances under the banner of social justice. But in truth, it would demolish both justice and society. We will not be tyrannized, we will not be demeaned, and we will not be intimidated by bad, evil people.”

    · Warning about the menace of “a very tough hombre” breaking into homes and the police not responding.

    · And his remarks on “kung flu,” NASCAR, military bases named for Confederates and the “white power” video.

    A few hours after my first inquiry, I emailed a reminder.

    In response, Loeffler’s campaign said that both she and Trump stand “strongly against racism” and that “this is just another one of the media’s silly games.”

    Graham’s campaign directed me to his radio interview Monday with Fox News’s Brian Kilmeade, in which Graham disagreed with Trump’s NASCAR tweet but said Trump isn’t racist. “You can be dark as coal or an albino. … He’s an equal-opportunity basher and praiser.”

    McConnell’s campaign said he “abhors racism” but his responsibilities “don’t include acting as a deputy press secretary for the White House.”

    Collins’s campaign said she “has challenged President Trump on many occasions," including “when he failed to immediately condemn the anti-Semitism and racism that led to the violent clashes in Charlottesville.”

    The others — Tillis, Perdue, Cornyn, Ernst, Gardner, McSally and Daines — responded as Republicans generally do when asked about Trump’s racism: with crickets.

    They think their silence protects them. But it does something else: It turns them into the handmaidens of white supremacy.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/06/silent-republican-lawmakers-are-handmaidens-white-supremacy/
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  • Bentleyspop
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    Hmmmmm.....


  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,995
    What was that about voter fraud again?

    https://apple.news/AH3JHSGE0S8-nepqVKNZ0CQ
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,995
    Brilliant brilliance beyond all brilliance. Team trump Treason was going to ensure a repub majority for generations, so brilliant was he. Texas stays red but the blue wave continues to lap and erode.

    One of our major political parties is going to win Texas and its 38 electoral votes in November. Spoiler alert: It is not going to be the one that has not carried the Lone Star State since 1976, despite quadrennial fantasy pieces by pundits. Democrats should also not get too carried away about the state's House delegation, which is likely to remain red for the foreseeable future.

    This doesn't mean the GOP has anything to celebrate going into this fall's congressional elections. The majority Republicans enjoyed at the beginning of Donald Trump's presidency disappeared two years later, leaving them with nothing to show for it except tax cuts, i.e., the only thing the party does when it controls both houses of Congress and the presidency. A net gain of 20 seats that would return them to power in the lower chamber is well-nigh impossible. A modest shift of five or so is just about imaginable, but it's far more likely to go in the other direction.

    This, one suspects, is why even in Texas they are suddenly behaving like a losing party, which is to say one that cares more about fleecing the most reliable portion of its donor base than it does about trying to win a majority. Hence the recent election of Allen West, the one-term congressman from Florida, as chairman of the Texas Republican Party. When you put a carpet-bagger who was nearly court-martialed for torture in charge of boring logistical tasks like deciding what brand of seltzer you are going to serve at official GOP events because you know he is still popular with aging Tea Party types on Facebook, you know where you are.

    Meanwhile Democrats are likely to have a good year in the House even if Trump is re-elected this fall. It's difficult to imagine them passing any meaningful legislation in such a scenario, especially with the Senate likely to remain under GOP control. Instead we can look forward to Impeachment 2: Electric Boogaloo. The only question is whether the pretext for this unprecedented move will be Trump's handling of the pandemic, a throwaway line from a recently published memoir, or spurious allegations of receiving foreign assistance during the election.

    What if Joe Biden wins? Even then, we should not necessarily expect the kind of midterm anti-White House backlash that has delivered the House to opposition parties during the first terms of three of our last four presidents, in 2018, 2010, and 1994 respectively. This is true for a number of reasons, but the most important is that in the long run, the math in the House, as opposed to the Senate, is not favorable to Republicans. Democrats might complain about the built-in advantage for the party of rural America in the upper chamber, but the corollary in the lower one is the reality that even in the reddest of red states, cities and suburbs are getting bluer with each election cycle. In 2018, the GOP won only a quarter of districts in which a higher than average percentage of residents had at least a bachelor's degree. As Tom Davis, the former congressman and chairman of the Republican National Committee, put it recently, the suburbs were "the base of the Republican Party just a decade and a half ago. And there just aren't enough rural voters to make up for those kind [sic] of losses. It means for the Republicans that instead of picking up seats in the House, that the bleeding could continue."

    This is the real blue wave that the GOP faces, not a sudden unexpected tsunami, but a rising tide of unpopularity that will sooner or later become a bore and lead. To keep their heads above water, Republicans will either have to figure out how to retake the suburbs (which would involve, among other things, disavowing Trump when he leaves office and likely abandoning the culture-war issues that keep the party's rural white working class base going to the polls) or somehow make themselves appealing to socially conservative Black and Hispanic voters.

    My guess is that they are going to keep getting wet.

    https://theweek.com/articles/926609/gops-rising-tide-unpopularity
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Matt, just change your last name to Gets. Matt Gets off. Matt Gets away with it. Matt Gets masked up on the House floor, Matt Gets lost, or one should hope. The Flo Rida panhandle should be so, so proud. I wonder if he leant his mask to the gubner of Flo Rida? Drain the swamp, suckers.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/22/gaetz-florida-house-ethics-rules-377098
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    I guess he should resign? Or be fired? Its okay though, I'm sure there will be a job waiting for him on Senator "I'm a Warrior, Hear Me Roar" Cotton's staff.

    As ceremonies honoring the life of civil rights legend John Lewis began over the weekend in Alabama, one Republican state lawmaker elected to take part in a local celebration of another prominent figure in Southern history: Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Confederate Army general and the first grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.

    On Saturday, state Rep. Will Dismukes (Prattville), who represents a district northwest of Montgomery, participated in an event honoring Forrest’s birthday at a private property near Selma called Fort Dixie. The gathering coincided with the arrival of Lewis’s body in the city where the late Georgia Democrat almost died 55 years ago as he led hundreds of protesters in a march across the Edmund Pettus Bridge on what became known as Bloody Sunday.

    “Had a great time at Fort Dixie speaking and giving the invocation for Nathan Bedford Forrest annual birthday celebration,” Dismukes, 30, wrote in a Facebook post over the weekend, sharing a photo of himself standing behind a lectern surrounded by several flags of the Confederacy. “Always a great time and some sure enough good eating!!”

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    parrots....


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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,995
    Now, why would he go and do such a thing? Maybe Senator “I’m a Warrior, Hear Me Roar” Cotton or that fellow from Alabama can shed some light? What a party.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/politics/david-perdue-jon-ossoff-takes-down-ad/index.html
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