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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    dankind said:
    dankind said:
    Yeah. Watched the first three episodes. Just more of the same.

    Really, a lot of the plot elements are merely variations of the same shit that happened in previous seasons. 
    Yeah that's what I figured based on the trailer I saw for this season.  Another situation where only Carrie knows the truth!!!!
    Pretty much. I'm 2 in. It's still entertaining though.
    Saul endangers Carrie -- check
    Saul runs, waves arms, emphatically screams -- check
    Carrie scoffs a lot -- check
    Saul gets kidnapped -- check

    Still waiting on:
    Carrie fucks the bad guy
    Carrie washes down meds with booze
    Saul trusts someone or something he shouldn't have
    She apparently already did just can’t remember. Haha
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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    I am not going through this entire thread because of spoilers. I've been streaming this on lockdown.  Ending season 5 right now. Sorry I won't be watching the finale with everyone else this weekend. Well, maybe if I really binge this week.

    Question I have is this: Has anyone found themselves really conflicted about the mostly negative portrayal of Muslims/Arabs while watching this show? I have had to check my prejudice on more than one occasion, like almost all of season 4 when they were in Pakistan. Again out of fear for spoilers, I've avoided going out in the Internet to see what the discussion has been like.

    Claire Danes and Mandy Patankin are beyond stellar in this whole series. Incredible performances. 
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I’ve loved Patinkin since Princess Bride :) Though I heard he’s admitted to being a huge asshole on Chicago Hope. His portrayal of Saul is just so...fine. Those eyes speak volumes. 

    Spectrum was offering free Showtime so I haven’t seen any new ones since last week. Gonna give in and get it just for that. I’d also started re-watching the whole thing from the beginning. 

    And Ms Danes? Love her! She won me over with My So-Called Life. Such a talented, instinctive actress. 

    I’ll have to give your question some thought. 
  • BLACK35
    BLACK35 Hanover, Ontario Posts: 22,970
    Wife and I just started this over the weekend. Finished S1 last night. We enjoyed it and will get back into S2 tonight.
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  • BrainofBGA
    BrainofBGA Australia Posts: 4,558
    Looking forward to the grand finale next week! 
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    I have enjoyed the shit out of this season.
  • The Juggler
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    I actually gave up on it about a month ago. Just got more and more over the top to me...even for this show. But I'll do a major binge this weekend leading up to the finale. 
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  • BrainofBGA
    BrainofBGA Australia Posts: 4,558
    I have enjoyed the shit out of this season.
    Agreed! I thought the Nick Brady storyline in season 2 or 3 got way over the top and hit a dead end but once they moved on from that it’s been a really great show from start to finish. Oh well will have to move onto something else now. 
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    Yooooooooo
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Yooooooooo
    Binged the last 4 episodes and finished the finale last night. Season in total was real good. Second half was stronger than the first. That finale was really perfect though. I absolutely loved how it ended, it's almost as if the show came full circle.

    I was arguing with my buddy via text last night who was saying its a top 5 show ever. I think that is nonsense. While the first season was one of the best single season's of tv I've ever seen, the rest were hit or miss. There were some really, really good seasons while some were way too over the top and unbelievable to be considered upper echelon television. Most were really entertaining though.

    He was arguing that it's tough to keep a show great for 8 seasons and I agree with that. Most of the shows that I consider the all time greats didn't go longer than 5 or 6 seasons. So gotta give Homeland a lot of credit for still putting out a quality highly entertaining show for that amount of time. I'm going to miss it. Again--that ending was perfect.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    Yooooooooo
    Binged the last 4 episodes and finished the finale last night. Season in total was real good. Second half was stronger than the first. That finale was really perfect though. I absolutely loved how it ended, it's almost as if the show came full circle.

    I was arguing with my buddy via text last night who was saying its a top 5 show ever. I think that is nonsense. While the first season was one of the best single season's of tv I've ever seen, the rest were hit or miss. There were some really, really good seasons while some were way too over the top and unbelievable to be considered upper echelon television. Most were really entertaining though.

    He was arguing that it's tough to keep a show great for 8 seasons and I agree with that. Most of the shows that I consider the all time greats didn't go longer than 5 or 6 seasons. So gotta give Homeland a lot of credit for still putting out a quality highly entertaining show for that amount of time. I'm going to miss it. Again--that ending was perfect.
    I really liked this season.  I'd have to think back about first half vs. second half of the season, but overall enjoyed it.  The thing I have been able to successfully do is almost separate the first two seasons from everything after. Before and after Brody, almost as two separate shows.  It has really helped me enjoy everything after season 2 probably.  The Brody story was amazing, but it was a completely different show than the next 6 seasons (not sure if I am getting all the timing correct, but you get the point).  After that it became a more homeland security/CIA show of sorts.  The thing that I always really liked about it is that it always stayed topical and had a fictional show on TV about the current events of that time.  Everything from refugees in Europe/Syria and Russian propaganda to this season the Afghan peace talks were playing out in real life as they were on TV, obviously two very different stories, but still.  I always thought that was pretty cool and made it interesting.

    A lot of it was unbelievable and the Carrie drama was always a bit annoying.  I am pretty certain there are a lot more than 5 shows better than it, but I would say outside of the big 3 (and Parks and Rec), it is the one I was most dedicated to.  Definitely agree how long it went and how hard that is.

    Mild spoiler...I loved the ending too. Absolutely nailed it, even though I was pretty pissed off for the majority of the show.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    just found out this show ended last night.  can't believe so many people still watch it.  I gave up like 4 seasons ago.  Next I'm going to find out that Ray Donovan (another terrible show) is still on the air

    most shows hang on for too long -- homeland was a prime example.

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Yooooooooo
    Binged the last 4 episodes and finished the finale last night. Season in total was real good. Second half was stronger than the first. That finale was really perfect though. I absolutely loved how it ended, it's almost as if the show came full circle.

    I was arguing with my buddy via text last night who was saying its a top 5 show ever. I think that is nonsense. While the first season was one of the best single season's of tv I've ever seen, the rest were hit or miss. There were some really, really good seasons while some were way too over the top and unbelievable to be considered upper echelon television. Most were really entertaining though.

    He was arguing that it's tough to keep a show great for 8 seasons and I agree with that. Most of the shows that I consider the all time greats didn't go longer than 5 or 6 seasons. So gotta give Homeland a lot of credit for still putting out a quality highly entertaining show for that amount of time. I'm going to miss it. Again--that ending was perfect.
    I really liked this season.  I'd have to think back about first half vs. second half of the season, but overall enjoyed it.  The thing I have been able to successfully do is almost separate the first two seasons from everything after. Before and after Brody, almost as two separate shows.  It has really helped me enjoy everything after season 2 probably.  The Brody story was amazing, but it was a completely different show than the next 6 seasons (not sure if I am getting all the timing correct, but you get the point).  After that it became a more homeland security/CIA show of sorts.  The thing that I always really liked about it is that it always stayed topical and had a fictional show on TV about the current events of that time.  Everything from refugees in Europe/Syria and Russian propaganda to this season the Afghan peace talks were playing out in real life as they were on TV, obviously two very different stories, but still.  I always thought that was pretty cool and made it interesting.

    A lot of it was unbelievable and the Carrie drama was always a bit annoying.  I am pretty certain there are a lot more than 5 shows better than it, but I would say outside of the big 3 (and Parks and Rec), it is the one I was most dedicated to.  Definitely agree how long it went and how hard that is.

    Mild spoiler...I loved the ending too. Absolutely nailed it, even though I was pretty pissed off for the majority of the show.
    Well said about its longevity. Same with the Sopranos. 

    Love how the end turned out, and the tie-ins to previous events (is, being incapacitated but managing to say “fuck you” to the once-trusted, Brody’s I am Not a Terrorist speech etc.).

    Ray is still running, but I just couldn’t get into it after the season where Abby died. 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    hedonist said:
    Yooooooooo
    Binged the last 4 episodes and finished the finale last night. Season in total was real good. Second half was stronger than the first. That finale was really perfect though. I absolutely loved how it ended, it's almost as if the show came full circle.

    I was arguing with my buddy via text last night who was saying its a top 5 show ever. I think that is nonsense. While the first season was one of the best single season's of tv I've ever seen, the rest were hit or miss. There were some really, really good seasons while some were way too over the top and unbelievable to be considered upper echelon television. Most were really entertaining though.

    He was arguing that it's tough to keep a show great for 8 seasons and I agree with that. Most of the shows that I consider the all time greats didn't go longer than 5 or 6 seasons. So gotta give Homeland a lot of credit for still putting out a quality highly entertaining show for that amount of time. I'm going to miss it. Again--that ending was perfect.
    I really liked this season.  I'd have to think back about first half vs. second half of the season, but overall enjoyed it.  The thing I have been able to successfully do is almost separate the first two seasons from everything after. Before and after Brody, almost as two separate shows.  It has really helped me enjoy everything after season 2 probably.  The Brody story was amazing, but it was a completely different show than the next 6 seasons (not sure if I am getting all the timing correct, but you get the point).  After that it became a more homeland security/CIA show of sorts.  The thing that I always really liked about it is that it always stayed topical and had a fictional show on TV about the current events of that time.  Everything from refugees in Europe/Syria and Russian propaganda to this season the Afghan peace talks were playing out in real life as they were on TV, obviously two very different stories, but still.  I always thought that was pretty cool and made it interesting.

    A lot of it was unbelievable and the Carrie drama was always a bit annoying.  I am pretty certain there are a lot more than 5 shows better than it, but I would say outside of the big 3 (and Parks and Rec), it is the one I was most dedicated to.  Definitely agree how long it went and how hard that is.

    Mild spoiler...I loved the ending too. Absolutely nailed it, even though I was pretty pissed off for the majority of the show.
    Well said about its longevity. Same with the Sopranos. 

    Love how the end turned out, and the tie-ins to previous events (is, being incapacitated but managing to say “fuck you” to the once-trusted, Brody’s I am Not a Terrorist speech etc.).

    Ray is still running, but I just couldn’t get into it after the season where Abby died. 
    "Go fuck yourself"

    haha....Loved that moment. What an intense 5-10 minutes there huh? That was crazy
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    hedonist said:
    Yooooooooo
    Binged the last 4 episodes and finished the finale last night. Season in total was real good. Second half was stronger than the first. That finale was really perfect though. I absolutely loved how it ended, it's almost as if the show came full circle.

    I was arguing with my buddy via text last night who was saying its a top 5 show ever. I think that is nonsense. While the first season was one of the best single season's of tv I've ever seen, the rest were hit or miss. There were some really, really good seasons while some were way too over the top and unbelievable to be considered upper echelon television. Most were really entertaining though.

    He was arguing that it's tough to keep a show great for 8 seasons and I agree with that. Most of the shows that I consider the all time greats didn't go longer than 5 or 6 seasons. So gotta give Homeland a lot of credit for still putting out a quality highly entertaining show for that amount of time. I'm going to miss it. Again--that ending was perfect.
    I really liked this season.  I'd have to think back about first half vs. second half of the season, but overall enjoyed it.  The thing I have been able to successfully do is almost separate the first two seasons from everything after. Before and after Brody, almost as two separate shows.  It has really helped me enjoy everything after season 2 probably.  The Brody story was amazing, but it was a completely different show than the next 6 seasons (not sure if I am getting all the timing correct, but you get the point).  After that it became a more homeland security/CIA show of sorts.  The thing that I always really liked about it is that it always stayed topical and had a fictional show on TV about the current events of that time.  Everything from refugees in Europe/Syria and Russian propaganda to this season the Afghan peace talks were playing out in real life as they were on TV, obviously two very different stories, but still.  I always thought that was pretty cool and made it interesting.

    A lot of it was unbelievable and the Carrie drama was always a bit annoying.  I am pretty certain there are a lot more than 5 shows better than it, but I would say outside of the big 3 (and Parks and Rec), it is the one I was most dedicated to.  Definitely agree how long it went and how hard that is.

    Mild spoiler...I loved the ending too. Absolutely nailed it, even though I was pretty pissed off for the majority of the show.
    Well said about its longevity. Same with the Sopranos. 

    Love how the end turned out, and the tie-ins to previous events (is, being incapacitated but managing to say “fuck you” to the once-trusted, Brody’s I am Not a Terrorist speech etc.).

    Ray is still running, but I just couldn’t get into it after the season where Abby died. 
    "Go fuck yourself"

    haha....Loved that moment. What an intense 5-10 minutes there huh? That was crazy
    I’m a bit pissed that I was ready to cry in those few minutes. 
  • BrainofBGA
    BrainofBGA Australia Posts: 4,558
    Fitting finish to a great series! On to something else. I’m thinking Better Call Saul. 
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,962
    Last episode tonight!!
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    i gotta be honest....i found the last couple episodes kind of....unbelievable. yeah, i know, "suspension of belief for entertainment" and all that, but come on, how many times would saul honestly trust carrie after everything she's done? i'm not going to make specific comments for spoiler reasons, but it just seemed so....hokey. 
    those few minutes with saul on the bed WERE intense, however. 

    and why does it only take everyone on this show like an hour to fly to and from the middle east all the time? lol

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    i gotta be honest....i found the last couple episodes kind of....unbelievable. yeah, i know, "suspension of belief for entertainment" and all that, but come on, how many times would saul honestly trust carrie after everything she's done? i'm not going to make specific comments for spoiler reasons, but it just seemed so....hokey. 
    those few minutes with saul on the bed WERE intense, however. 

    and why does it only take everyone on this show like an hour to fly to and from the middle east all the time? lol

    Haha.....this is true.

    How about Saul, the National Security Advisor, always risking his life in these foreign countries too? Could you imagine John Bolton doing that shit?  hahaha.....

    It's entertaining as well and most season were really good. But yeah a lot this show is fantasyland stuff. 
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,962
    Ha ha, the woman on the toilet scene who takes Carrie's bag is Greek and we went school together!!
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