America's Gun Violence

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  • CM189191 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I ll gladly take my chances in Wyoming or Montana as compared to the south side of Chicago or Camden, nj.  
    Who did you piss off on the south side?  Nearly all of the gun violence there is targeted, it's not random.  Also, the south side is a microcosm of Chicago-land.  Makes for good headlines tho.  
    Tell that to this young woman’s Family.... this happened yesterday BTW.   I would not call this a good headline, but some apparently do.  
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    mcgruff10 said:
    I ll gladly take my chances in Wyoming or Montana as compared to the south side of Chicago or Camden, nj.  
    Smart man...and guess what a majority of the people have who reside in those beautiful states...Those no good Evil Guns...
    More guns = more gun deaths

    That's a fact
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927


    Deaths per 100K
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    "If I'm going to die from gun violence, it's going to be by my own hand, like a real American"

    Bravo
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,133
    I wonder if he rushed out to buy a gun because of the Covid-19 pandemic or if he was just another "responsible" gun owner until he wasn't?

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/illinois-couple-dead-after-man-feared-they-had-covid-19/
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2020
    I wonder if he rushed out to buy a gun because of the Covid-19 pandemic or if he was just another "responsible" gun owner until he wasn't?

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/illinois-couple-dead-after-man-feared-they-had-covid-19/
    Sad.

    Interested in learning more about the officers who investigated the scene. The article mentions a revolver with three live rounds in it and two spent shell casings nearby. Revolvers do not eject spent cases, they have to be manually removed from the cylinder. 

    Either someone else was involved, the officers did a shit job investigating or........I don't even know what the hell. 

    ETA: The NY Post appears to be a shit rag.
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    CM189191 said:
    "If I'm going to die from gun violence, it's going to be by my own hand, like a real American"

    Bravo
    Goddamn right!
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  • Well played sir!!  Protecting your family and ridding the earth of a Oxygen thief.  Your sir are a True Hero.....

    https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/police-release-video-of-deadly-home-invasion-in-chicago-area-involving-masked-men


  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Well played sir!!  Protecting your family and ridding the earth of a Oxygen thief.  Your sir are a True Hero.....

    https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/police-release-video-of-deadly-home-invasion-in-chicago-area-involving-masked-men


    Too bad police don't release their body cam footage in 6 days
  • CM189191 said:
    Well played sir!!  Protecting your family and ridding the earth of a Oxygen thief.  Your sir are a True Hero.....

    https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/police-release-video-of-deadly-home-invasion-in-chicago-area-involving-masked-men


    Too bad police don't release their body cam footage in 6 days
    What does this heroic action by a citizen protecting his family and ridding the earth of a POS have to do w/ the Police????  Wait, never mind...., I know the playbook.   
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,410
    Time for another reminder that...

    Guns don't kill people 



    Gun owners kill people 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,133
    Well played sir!!  Protecting your family and ridding the earth of a Oxygen thief.  Your sir are a True Hero.....

    https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/police-release-video-of-deadly-home-invasion-in-chicago-area-involving-masked-men


    You know what else could have been well played? Having a medium or large sized dog with a loud bark. Or how about not answering the door and as your hero goes to get his gun, the wife is on the phone calling the cops while telling the kids to go to their rooms? Maybe brandish the gun or announce you have one, stand back from the door and if they kick it in, shoot? Maybe opening the door to two unexpected masked strangers so your wife and kids can witness someone being shot wasn’t the best “well played.”

    Do you “responsible” gun owners ever think about the “down range” consequences of gun ownership? You think those kids are going to fine in a few days, weeks, months, years?

    Glad the homeowner was able to defend himself and his family and exercise his 2A rights but I question the celebration of someone being shot and killed in front of children.
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    Well played sir!!  Protecting your family and ridding the earth of a Oxygen thief.  Your sir are a True Hero.....

    https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/police-release-video-of-deadly-home-invasion-in-chicago-area-involving-masked-men


    You know what else could have been well played? Having a medium or large sized dog with a loud bark. Or how about not answering the door and as your hero goes to get his gun, the wife is on the phone calling the cops while telling the kids to go to their rooms? Maybe brandish the gun or announce you have one, stand back from the door and if they kick it in, shoot? Maybe opening the door to two unexpected masked strangers so your wife and kids can witness someone being shot wasn’t the best “well played.”

    Do you “responsible” gun owners ever think about the “down range” consequences of gun ownership? You think those kids are going to fine in a few days, weeks, months, years?

    Glad the homeowner was able to defend himself and his family and exercise his 2A rights but I question the celebration of someone being shot and killed in front of children.
    It's not like the homeowner asked for his family to be targeted by the two assailants. One of them was actively pointing a gun at his family and threatening them in their own home. Can't say I would have done anything differently than the homeowner in that particular situation. 

    Lots of ways things could have gone down. I'm glad this wasn't another home invasion that resulted in the death of innocents. 

    Tragic for sure that it happened, worse that children saw it happen. At least the children are still alive and still have both parents.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,133
    dudeman said:
    Well played sir!!  Protecting your family and ridding the earth of a Oxygen thief.  Your sir are a True Hero.....

    https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/police-release-video-of-deadly-home-invasion-in-chicago-area-involving-masked-men


    You know what else could have been well played? Having a medium or large sized dog with a loud bark. Or how about not answering the door and as your hero goes to get his gun, the wife is on the phone calling the cops while telling the kids to go to their rooms? Maybe brandish the gun or announce you have one, stand back from the door and if they kick it in, shoot? Maybe opening the door to two unexpected masked strangers so your wife and kids can witness someone being shot wasn’t the best “well played.”

    Do you “responsible” gun owners ever think about the “down range” consequences of gun ownership? You think those kids are going to fine in a few days, weeks, months, years?

    Glad the homeowner was able to defend himself and his family and exercise his 2A rights but I question the celebration of someone being shot and killed in front of children.
    It's not like the homeowner asked for his family to be targeted by the two assailants. One of them was actively pointing a gun at his family and threatening them in their own home. Can't say I would have done anything differently than the homeowner in that particular situation. 

    Lots of ways things could have gone down. I'm glad this wasn't another home invasion that resulted in the death of innocents. 

    Tragic for sure that it happened, worse that children saw it happen. At least the children are still alive and still have both parents.
    I wouldn’t have opened the door to two masked strangers that I wasn’t expecting. What’s the point of a doorbell camera if you’re not going to try and identify who it is and why they’re there?

    Again, glad they’re “safe” but shooting someone doesn’t always have to be the only solution.
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  • dudeman
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    I wonder if the homeowner used a revolver. If so, how many spent casings miraculously ejected themselves out of the cylinder?
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    CM189191 said:
    I don't recall reading about any mass shooting in March?
  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    Exactly. 
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  • CM189191
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,159
    CM189191 said:
    I'm interested to know what criteria is being used to label them as "school shootings". Particularly, two in Michigan in April. Schools have been closed since before April. The term "school shooting" conjures images of people being gunned down in classrooms and hallways but that clearly wasn't the case for the ones in April in Michigan. What are the stats derived from?

    Did someone target a house across the street from school in a drive by? Maybe someone down the block from a school was the victim of a home invasion or someone who lived next door to a school committed suicide with a gun.

    All of those situations are tragic for sure, but I wouldn't say that any of them should be considered as "school shootings".
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