America's Gun Violence
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Those Evil no good Guns killin again during a 24hr stretch during this shelter and place Pandemic.....Chicago Values for ya...I hope they keep those evil guns out of my families neighborhood.https://abc7chicago.com/21-shot-7-fatally-tuesday-in-chicago/6086110/
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Guns = Bad? White people = Bad?If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV0
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Not all white people are bad. I'm not particularly fond of the ones that go to rally's though...dudeman said:Guns = Bad? White people = Bad?0 -
JW269453 said:
Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?CM189191 said:
There are a lot of people in Chicago.lindamarie73 said:https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago. Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.
You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/
So only homicides count as gun violence, but not accidents or suicides? You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America (no qualifiers).
The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine
https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/14/2/107.full.pdf- compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents
- Results: Compared with urban settings, rural areas had a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles and a higher percentage from suicides and accidents
Researchers at UC Davis’ Violence Prevention Research Program evaluated more than 50,000 firearm deaths – both homicides and suicides – recorded in California counties between 2000 and 2015.
https://www.calhealthreport.org/2018/04/24/gun-violence-increasingly-rural-problem-study-finds/
- At the start of the study, firearm homicide was largely an urban problem, the researchers found. But by 2015, gun murders in urban areas had dropped, resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties.
- The study also detected a slight uptick in suicide rates by gun since 2000, mirroring national trends. These suicides were concentrated in rural areas and among whites
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CM189191 said:JW269453 said:
Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?CM189191 said:
There are a lot of people in Chicago.lindamarie73 said:https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago. Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.
You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/
So only homicides count as gun violence, but not accidents or suicides? You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America (no qualifiers).
The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine
https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/14/2/107.full.pdf- compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents
- Results: Compared with urban settings, rural areas had a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles and a higher percentage from suicides and accidents
Researchers at UC Davis’ Violence Prevention Research Program evaluated more than 50,000 firearm deaths – both homicides and suicides – recorded in California counties between 2000 and 2015.
https://www.calhealthreport.org/2018/04/24/gun-violence-increasingly-rural-problem-study-finds/
- At the start of the study, firearm homicide was largely an urban problem, the researchers found. But by 2015, gun murders in urban areas had dropped, resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties.
- The study also detected a slight uptick in suicide rates by gun since 2000, mirroring national trends. These suicides were concentrated in rural areas and among whites
Did you explore the map I provided? If you did, you should have noticed that accidental is included. I added the bit about suicides on my own because they should not be ignored when speaking of gun violence, but suicides do not help your stance since it takes others doing the shooting out of the equation. Your evidence only speaks of shotguns and rifles in exhibit "A", are those the only guns we have in this country? Handguns are the most to blame when it comes to gun violence, I've included a graph below for you from the FBI. Exhibit "B" is a study for the state of California only and clearly states "resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties." Again I ask, where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living who are more likely to shoot you?
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Not sure why this is so difficult to grasp.JW269453 said:CM189191 said:JW269453 said:
Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?CM189191 said:
There are a lot of people in Chicago.lindamarie73 said:https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago. Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.
You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/
So only homicides count as gun violence, but not accidents or suicides? You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America (no qualifiers).
The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine
https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/14/2/107.full.pdf- compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents
- Results: Compared with urban settings, rural areas had a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles and a higher percentage from suicides and accidents
Researchers at UC Davis’ Violence Prevention Research Program evaluated more than 50,000 firearm deaths – both homicides and suicides – recorded in California counties between 2000 and 2015.
https://www.calhealthreport.org/2018/04/24/gun-violence-increasingly-rural-problem-study-finds/
- At the start of the study, firearm homicide was largely an urban problem, the researchers found. But by 2015, gun murders in urban areas had dropped, resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties.
- The study also detected a slight uptick in suicide rates by gun since 2000, mirroring national trends. These suicides were concentrated in rural areas and among whites
Did you explore the map I provided? If you did, you should have noticed that accidental is included. I added the bit about suicides on my own because they should not be ignored when speaking of gun violence, but suicides do not help your stance since it takes others doing the shooting out of the equation. Your evidence only speaks of shotguns and rifles in exhibit "A", are those the only guns we have in this country? Handguns are the most to blame when it comes to gun violence, I've included a graph below for you from the FBI. Exhibit "B" is a study for the state of California only and clearly states "resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties." Again I ask, where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living who are more likely to shoot you?
You are more likely to die from gun violence in rural America than in the city.
Gun suicides, accidental deaths, and homicides happen at a higher rate per capita in rural areas.
It's easy to pick on Chicago because there's nearly 10 million in the metro area. Sensationalism gets clicks.0 -
10 million people in Chicago metro ??? Boy, I would love to see some pretty scientific graph on that Stat....people are leaving that rotten brain infested city and state in droves....CM189191 said:
Not sure why this is so difficult to grasp.JW269453 said:CM189191 said:JW269453 said:
Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?CM189191 said:
There are a lot of people in Chicago.lindamarie73 said:https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago. Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.
You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/
So only homicides count as gun violence, but not accidents or suicides? You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America (no qualifiers).
The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine
https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/14/2/107.full.pdf- compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents
- Results: Compared with urban settings, rural areas had a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles and a higher percentage from suicides and accidents
Researchers at UC Davis’ Violence Prevention Research Program evaluated more than 50,000 firearm deaths – both homicides and suicides – recorded in California counties between 2000 and 2015.
https://www.calhealthreport.org/2018/04/24/gun-violence-increasingly-rural-problem-study-finds/
- At the start of the study, firearm homicide was largely an urban problem, the researchers found. But by 2015, gun murders in urban areas had dropped, resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties.
- The study also detected a slight uptick in suicide rates by gun since 2000, mirroring national trends. These suicides were concentrated in rural areas and among whites
Did you explore the map I provided? If you did, you should have noticed that accidental is included. I added the bit about suicides on my own because they should not be ignored when speaking of gun violence, but suicides do not help your stance since it takes others doing the shooting out of the equation. Your evidence only speaks of shotguns and rifles in exhibit "A", are those the only guns we have in this country? Handguns are the most to blame when it comes to gun violence, I've included a graph below for you from the FBI. Exhibit "B" is a study for the state of California only and clearly states "resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties." Again I ask, where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living who are more likely to shoot you?
You are more likely to die from gun violence in rural America than in the city.
Gun suicides, accidental deaths, and homicides happen at a higher rate per capita in rural areas.
It's easy to pick on Chicago because there's nearly 10 million in the metro area. Sensationalism gets clicks.Post edited by lindamarie73 on0 -
CM189191 said:
Not sure why this is so difficult to grasp.JW269453 said:CM189191 said:JW269453 said:
Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?CM189191 said:
There are a lot of people in Chicago.lindamarie73 said:https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago. Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.
You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/
So only homicides count as gun violence, but not accidents or suicides? You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America (no qualifiers).
The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine
https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/14/2/107.full.pdf- compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents
- Results: Compared with urban settings, rural areas had a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles and a higher percentage from suicides and accidents
Researchers at UC Davis’ Violence Prevention Research Program evaluated more than 50,000 firearm deaths – both homicides and suicides – recorded in California counties between 2000 and 2015.
https://www.calhealthreport.org/2018/04/24/gun-violence-increasingly-rural-problem-study-finds/
- At the start of the study, firearm homicide was largely an urban problem, the researchers found. But by 2015, gun murders in urban areas had dropped, resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties.
- The study also detected a slight uptick in suicide rates by gun since 2000, mirroring national trends. These suicides were concentrated in rural areas and among whites
Did you explore the map I provided? If you did, you should have noticed that accidental is included. I added the bit about suicides on my own because they should not be ignored when speaking of gun violence, but suicides do not help your stance since it takes others doing the shooting out of the equation. Your evidence only speaks of shotguns and rifles in exhibit "A", are those the only guns we have in this country? Handguns are the most to blame when it comes to gun violence, I've included a graph below for you from the FBI. Exhibit "B" is a study for the state of California only and clearly states "resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties." Again I ask, where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living who are more likely to shoot you?
You are more likely to die from gun violence in rural America than in the city.
Gun suicides, accidental deaths, and homicides happen at a higher rate per capita in rural areas.
It's easy to pick on Chicago because there's nearly 10 million in the metro area. Sensationalism gets clicks.All I am asking for on my third attempt time is:Where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living? Are you worried you are going to upset someone because of your typical stereotyping approach?0 -
Here you go, I rounded uplindamarie73 said:
10 million people in Chicago metro ??? Boy, I would love to see some pretty scientific graph on that Stat....people are leaving that rotten brain infested city and state in droves....CM189191 said:
Not sure why this is so difficult to grasp.JW269453 said:CM189191 said:JW269453 said:
Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?CM189191 said:
There are a lot of people in Chicago.lindamarie73 said:https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago. Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.
You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/
So only homicides count as gun violence, but not accidents or suicides? You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America (no qualifiers).
The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine
https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/14/2/107.full.pdf- compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents
- Results: Compared with urban settings, rural areas had a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles and a higher percentage from suicides and accidents
Researchers at UC Davis’ Violence Prevention Research Program evaluated more than 50,000 firearm deaths – both homicides and suicides – recorded in California counties between 2000 and 2015.
https://www.calhealthreport.org/2018/04/24/gun-violence-increasingly-rural-problem-study-finds/
- At the start of the study, firearm homicide was largely an urban problem, the researchers found. But by 2015, gun murders in urban areas had dropped, resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties.
- The study also detected a slight uptick in suicide rates by gun since 2000, mirroring national trends. These suicides were concentrated in rural areas and among whites
Did you explore the map I provided? If you did, you should have noticed that accidental is included. I added the bit about suicides on my own because they should not be ignored when speaking of gun violence, but suicides do not help your stance since it takes others doing the shooting out of the equation. Your evidence only speaks of shotguns and rifles in exhibit "A", are those the only guns we have in this country? Handguns are the most to blame when it comes to gun violence, I've included a graph below for you from the FBI. Exhibit "B" is a study for the state of California only and clearly states "resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties." Again I ask, where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living who are more likely to shoot you?
You are more likely to die from gun violence in rural America than in the city.
Gun suicides, accidental deaths, and homicides happen at a higher rate per capita in rural areas.
It's easy to pick on Chicago because there's nearly 10 million in the metro area. Sensationalism gets clicks.
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_metropolitan_area
The population is about 9.5 million people and CSA population of 9.9 million people
Most of the people leaving are useless elderly retiring in AZ or FL who really bring no value to Illinois economic engine anyways.0 -
Not sure what you're getting at. but here you go: https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/publications/90556/eib-200.pdfJW269453 said:CM189191 said:
Not sure why this is so difficult to grasp.JW269453 said:CM189191 said:JW269453 said:
Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?CM189191 said:
There are a lot of people in Chicago.lindamarie73 said:https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago. Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.
You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/
So only homicides count as gun violence, but not accidents or suicides? You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America (no qualifiers).
The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine
https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/14/2/107.full.pdf- compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents
- Results: Compared with urban settings, rural areas had a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles and a higher percentage from suicides and accidents
Researchers at UC Davis’ Violence Prevention Research Program evaluated more than 50,000 firearm deaths – both homicides and suicides – recorded in California counties between 2000 and 2015.
https://www.calhealthreport.org/2018/04/24/gun-violence-increasingly-rural-problem-study-finds/
- At the start of the study, firearm homicide was largely an urban problem, the researchers found. But by 2015, gun murders in urban areas had dropped, resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties.
- The study also detected a slight uptick in suicide rates by gun since 2000, mirroring national trends. These suicides were concentrated in rural areas and among whites
Did you explore the map I provided? If you did, you should have noticed that accidental is included. I added the bit about suicides on my own because they should not be ignored when speaking of gun violence, but suicides do not help your stance since it takes others doing the shooting out of the equation. Your evidence only speaks of shotguns and rifles in exhibit "A", are those the only guns we have in this country? Handguns are the most to blame when it comes to gun violence, I've included a graph below for you from the FBI. Exhibit "B" is a study for the state of California only and clearly states "resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties." Again I ask, where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living who are more likely to shoot you?
You are more likely to die from gun violence in rural America than in the city.
Gun suicides, accidental deaths, and homicides happen at a higher rate per capita in rural areas.
It's easy to pick on Chicago because there's nearly 10 million in the metro area. Sensationalism gets clicks.All I am asking for on my third attempt time is:Where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living? Are you worried you are going to upset someone because of your typical stereotyping approach?
If you're trying to make a point, go get your own data next time.0 -
I love Chicago
I would live there if it didn't have such god awful weather.
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Nothing to do with gun violence again, but the pretty colors depicting rural areas on the pamphlet you provided seem to take up a vast portion of the country central to west. I have to assume this is the rural white pillbilly America that you speak of since you refuse to clarify your original statement. Oddly enough those same areas on the data I initially provided show the probably of being shot are much lower. Shooting yourself may be higher in those areas but again that was not a part of your argument, I brought that to the table to show you are more likely to shoot yourself than be shot by someone else no matter where you live. Keep calm and stereotype on.CM189191 said:
Not sure what you're getting at. but here you go: https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/publications/90556/eib-200.pdfJW269453 said:CM189191 said:
Not sure why this is so difficult to grasp.JW269453 said:CM189191 said:JW269453 said:
Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?CM189191 said:
There are a lot of people in Chicago.lindamarie73 said:https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago. Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.
You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/
So only homicides count as gun violence, but not accidents or suicides? You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America (no qualifiers).
The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine
https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/14/2/107.full.pdf- compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents
- Results: Compared with urban settings, rural areas had a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles and a higher percentage from suicides and accidents
Researchers at UC Davis’ Violence Prevention Research Program evaluated more than 50,000 firearm deaths – both homicides and suicides – recorded in California counties between 2000 and 2015.
https://www.calhealthreport.org/2018/04/24/gun-violence-increasingly-rural-problem-study-finds/
- At the start of the study, firearm homicide was largely an urban problem, the researchers found. But by 2015, gun murders in urban areas had dropped, resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties.
- The study also detected a slight uptick in suicide rates by gun since 2000, mirroring national trends. These suicides were concentrated in rural areas and among whites
Did you explore the map I provided? If you did, you should have noticed that accidental is included. I added the bit about suicides on my own because they should not be ignored when speaking of gun violence, but suicides do not help your stance since it takes others doing the shooting out of the equation. Your evidence only speaks of shotguns and rifles in exhibit "A", are those the only guns we have in this country? Handguns are the most to blame when it comes to gun violence, I've included a graph below for you from the FBI. Exhibit "B" is a study for the state of California only and clearly states "resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties." Again I ask, where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living who are more likely to shoot you?
You are more likely to die from gun violence in rural America than in the city.
Gun suicides, accidental deaths, and homicides happen at a higher rate per capita in rural areas.
It's easy to pick on Chicago because there's nearly 10 million in the metro area. Sensationalism gets clicks.All I am asking for on my third attempt time is:Where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living? Are you worried you are going to upset someone because of your typical stereotyping approach?
If you're trying to make a point, go get your own data next time.
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JW269453 said:
Nothing to do with gun violence again, but the pretty colors depicting rural areas on the pamphlet you provided seem to take up a vast portion of the country central to west. I have to assume this is the rural white pillbilly America that you speak of since you refuse to clarify your original statement. Oddly enough those same areas on the data I initially provided show the probably of being shot are much lower. Shooting yourself may be higher in those areas but again that was not a part of your argument, I brought that to the table to show you are more likely to shoot yourself than be shot by someone else no matter where you live. Keep calm and stereotype on.CM189191 said:
Not sure what you're getting at. but here you go: https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/publications/90556/eib-200.pdfJW269453 said:CM189191 said:
Not sure why this is so difficult to grasp.JW269453 said:CM189191 said:JW269453 said:
Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?CM189191 said:
There are a lot of people in Chicago.lindamarie73 said:https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago. Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.
You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/
So only homicides count as gun violence, but not accidents or suicides? You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America (no qualifiers).
The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine
https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/14/2/107.full.pdf- compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents
- Results: Compared with urban settings, rural areas had a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles and a higher percentage from suicides and accidents
Researchers at UC Davis’ Violence Prevention Research Program evaluated more than 50,000 firearm deaths – both homicides and suicides – recorded in California counties between 2000 and 2015.
https://www.calhealthreport.org/2018/04/24/gun-violence-increasingly-rural-problem-study-finds/
- At the start of the study, firearm homicide was largely an urban problem, the researchers found. But by 2015, gun murders in urban areas had dropped, resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties.
- The study also detected a slight uptick in suicide rates by gun since 2000, mirroring national trends. These suicides were concentrated in rural areas and among whites
Did you explore the map I provided? If you did, you should have noticed that accidental is included. I added the bit about suicides on my own because they should not be ignored when speaking of gun violence, but suicides do not help your stance since it takes others doing the shooting out of the equation. Your evidence only speaks of shotguns and rifles in exhibit "A", are those the only guns we have in this country? Handguns are the most to blame when it comes to gun violence, I've included a graph below for you from the FBI. Exhibit "B" is a study for the state of California only and clearly states "resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties." Again I ask, where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living who are more likely to shoot you?
You are more likely to die from gun violence in rural America than in the city.
Gun suicides, accidental deaths, and homicides happen at a higher rate per capita in rural areas.
It's easy to pick on Chicago because there's nearly 10 million in the metro area. Sensationalism gets clicks.All I am asking for on my third attempt time is:Where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living? Are you worried you are going to upset someone because of your typical stereotyping approach?
If you're trying to make a point, go get your own data next time.
You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America
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That’s Fresh.... “useless elderly moving to FL and AZ”. Spoken like a proud Illinoisan as that voluptuous Billionaire JB Pritzker likes to call that pathetic state and City..... How you were able to throw in “add value to Illinois economic engine “ was pure Democratic gold.... Jelly Bean would be proud.......CM189191 said:
Here you go, I rounded uplindamarie73 said:
10 million people in Chicago metro ??? Boy, I would love to see some pretty scientific graph on that Stat....people are leaving that rotten brain infested city and state in droves....CM189191 said:
Not sure why this is so difficult to grasp.JW269453 said:CM189191 said:JW269453 said:
Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?CM189191 said:
There are a lot of people in Chicago.lindamarie73 said:https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago. Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.
You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/
So only homicides count as gun violence, but not accidents or suicides? You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America (no qualifiers).
The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine
https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/14/2/107.full.pdf- compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents
- Results: Compared with urban settings, rural areas had a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles and a higher percentage from suicides and accidents
Researchers at UC Davis’ Violence Prevention Research Program evaluated more than 50,000 firearm deaths – both homicides and suicides – recorded in California counties between 2000 and 2015.
https://www.calhealthreport.org/2018/04/24/gun-violence-increasingly-rural-problem-study-finds/
- At the start of the study, firearm homicide was largely an urban problem, the researchers found. But by 2015, gun murders in urban areas had dropped, resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties.
- The study also detected a slight uptick in suicide rates by gun since 2000, mirroring national trends. These suicides were concentrated in rural areas and among whites
Did you explore the map I provided? If you did, you should have noticed that accidental is included. I added the bit about suicides on my own because they should not be ignored when speaking of gun violence, but suicides do not help your stance since it takes others doing the shooting out of the equation. Your evidence only speaks of shotguns and rifles in exhibit "A", are those the only guns we have in this country? Handguns are the most to blame when it comes to gun violence, I've included a graph below for you from the FBI. Exhibit "B" is a study for the state of California only and clearly states "resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties." Again I ask, where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living who are more likely to shoot you?
You are more likely to die from gun violence in rural America than in the city.
Gun suicides, accidental deaths, and homicides happen at a higher rate per capita in rural areas.
It's easy to pick on Chicago because there's nearly 10 million in the metro area. Sensationalism gets clicks.
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_metropolitan_area
The population is about 9.5 million people and CSA population of 9.9 million people
Most of the people leaving are useless elderly retiring in AZ or FL who really bring no value to Illinois economic engine anyways.0 -
I really don't understand what point you're trying to make here.JW269453 said:
Nothing to do with gun violence again, but the pretty colors depicting rural areas on the pamphlet you provided seem to take up a vast portion of the country central to west. I have to assume this is the rural white pillbilly America that you speak of since you refuse to clarify your original statement. Oddly enough those same areas on the data I initially provided show the probably of being shot are much lower. Shooting yourself may be higher in those areas but again that was not a part of your argument, I brought that to the table to show you are more likely to shoot yourself than be shot by someone else no matter where you live. Keep calm and stereotype on.CM189191 said:
Not sure what you're getting at. but here you go: https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/publications/90556/eib-200.pdfJW269453 said:CM189191 said:
Not sure why this is so difficult to grasp.JW269453 said:CM189191 said:JW269453 said:
Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?CM189191 said:
There are a lot of people in Chicago.lindamarie73 said:https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago. Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.
You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/
So only homicides count as gun violence, but not accidents or suicides? You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America (no qualifiers).
The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine
https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/14/2/107.full.pdf- compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents
- Results: Compared with urban settings, rural areas had a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles and a higher percentage from suicides and accidents
Researchers at UC Davis’ Violence Prevention Research Program evaluated more than 50,000 firearm deaths – both homicides and suicides – recorded in California counties between 2000 and 2015.
https://www.calhealthreport.org/2018/04/24/gun-violence-increasingly-rural-problem-study-finds/
- At the start of the study, firearm homicide was largely an urban problem, the researchers found. But by 2015, gun murders in urban areas had dropped, resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties.
- The study also detected a slight uptick in suicide rates by gun since 2000, mirroring national trends. These suicides were concentrated in rural areas and among whites
Did you explore the map I provided? If you did, you should have noticed that accidental is included. I added the bit about suicides on my own because they should not be ignored when speaking of gun violence, but suicides do not help your stance since it takes others doing the shooting out of the equation. Your evidence only speaks of shotguns and rifles in exhibit "A", are those the only guns we have in this country? Handguns are the most to blame when it comes to gun violence, I've included a graph below for you from the FBI. Exhibit "B" is a study for the state of California only and clearly states "resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties." Again I ask, where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living who are more likely to shoot you?
You are more likely to die from gun violence in rural America than in the city.
Gun suicides, accidental deaths, and homicides happen at a higher rate per capita in rural areas.
It's easy to pick on Chicago because there's nearly 10 million in the metro area. Sensationalism gets clicks.All I am asking for on my third attempt time is:Where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living? Are you worried you are going to upset someone because of your typical stereotyping approach?
If you're trying to make a point, go get your own data next time.
That homicides are more significant than suicides or accidental gun deaths?
That gun violence in urban areas is more important than in rural areas?
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lindamarie73 said:
That’s Fresh.... “useless elderly moving to FL and AZ”. Spoken like a proud Illinoisan as that voluptuous Billionaire JB Pritzker likes to call that pathetic state and City..... How you were able to throw in “add value to Illinois economic engine “ was pure Democratic gold.... Jelly Bean would be proud.......CM189191 said:
Here you go, I rounded uplindamarie73 said:
10 million people in Chicago metro ??? Boy, I would love to see some pretty scientific graph on that Stat....people are leaving that rotten brain infested city and state in droves....CM189191 said:
Not sure why this is so difficult to grasp.JW269453 said:CM189191 said:JW269453 said:
Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?CM189191 said:
There are a lot of people in Chicago.lindamarie73 said:https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago. Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.
You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/
So only homicides count as gun violence, but not accidents or suicides? You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America (no qualifiers).
The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine
https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/14/2/107.full.pdf- compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents
- Results: Compared with urban settings, rural areas had a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles and a higher percentage from suicides and accidents
Researchers at UC Davis’ Violence Prevention Research Program evaluated more than 50,000 firearm deaths – both homicides and suicides – recorded in California counties between 2000 and 2015.
https://www.calhealthreport.org/2018/04/24/gun-violence-increasingly-rural-problem-study-finds/
- At the start of the study, firearm homicide was largely an urban problem, the researchers found. But by 2015, gun murders in urban areas had dropped, resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties.
- The study also detected a slight uptick in suicide rates by gun since 2000, mirroring national trends. These suicides were concentrated in rural areas and among whites
Did you explore the map I provided? If you did, you should have noticed that accidental is included. I added the bit about suicides on my own because they should not be ignored when speaking of gun violence, but suicides do not help your stance since it takes others doing the shooting out of the equation. Your evidence only speaks of shotguns and rifles in exhibit "A", are those the only guns we have in this country? Handguns are the most to blame when it comes to gun violence, I've included a graph below for you from the FBI. Exhibit "B" is a study for the state of California only and clearly states "resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties." Again I ask, where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living who are more likely to shoot you?
You are more likely to die from gun violence in rural America than in the city.
Gun suicides, accidental deaths, and homicides happen at a higher rate per capita in rural areas.
It's easy to pick on Chicago because there's nearly 10 million in the metro area. Sensationalism gets clicks.
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_metropolitan_area
The population is about 9.5 million people and CSA population of 9.9 million people
Most of the people leaving are useless elderly retiring in AZ or FL who really bring no value to Illinois economic engine anyways.The economy of Illinois is the fifth largest by GDP in the United States and one of the most diversified economies in the world. Fueled by the economy of Chicago, the Chicago metropolitan area is home to many of the United States' largest companies, including AbbVie Inc., Allstate, Baxter International, Boeing, Caterpillar, Conagra, Crate and Barrel, Kraft Heinz, McDonald's, Mondelez International, Motorola, United Airlines, US Foods, Walgreens, and more. The Chicago area is a global financial center and headquarters a wide variety of financial institutions including Citadel LLC, CNA Financial, Discover Financial Services, Morningstar, Inc., Nuveen, and more. Chicago is also home to the largest futures exchange in the world, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange.Across the state, other Fortune 500 world headquarters based in Illinois include State Farm in Bloomington and John Deere in Moline. As of 2017, Illinois ranked fourth in the nation for the most Fortune 500 based companies with a total of 36. For six consecutive years, Chicagoland was ranked the nation's top metropolitan area for corporate relocations.The 2018 total gross state product for Illinois was $857 billion, placing it fifth in the nation. The 2017 median household income was $62,992, one of the nation's highest. The state's industrial outputs include machinery, food processing, electrical equipment, chemical products, publishing, fabricated metal products and transportation equipment. Corn and soybeans are important agricultural products. Service industries of note are financial trading, higher education, logistics, and medicine.0 -
I ll gladly take my chances in Wyoming or Montana as compared to the south side of Chicago or Camden, nj.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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Who did you piss off on the south side? Nearly all of the gun violence there is targeted, it's not random. Also, the south side is a microcosm of Chicago-land. Makes for good headlines tho.mcgruff10 said:I ll gladly take my chances in Wyoming or Montana as compared to the south side of Chicago or Camden, nj.0 -
I'm pretty sure the 5 year old girl that was shot and wounded in the article you posted above didn't piss anyone off.CM189191 said:
Who did you piss off on the south side? Nearly all of the gun violence there is targeted, it's not random. Also, the south side is a microcosm of Chicago-land. Makes for good headlines tho.mcgruff10 said:I ll gladly take my chances in Wyoming or Montana as compared to the south side of Chicago or Camden, nj.
Drive by shootings happen in Chicago and other urban areas. Probably not so much in farm country.
Plenty of innocent bystander casualties of gang violence in the annual gun deaths in Chicago.If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV0 -
Smart man...and guess what a majority of the people have who reside in those beautiful states...Those no good Evil Guns...mcgruff10 said:I ll gladly take my chances in Wyoming or Montana as compared to the south side of Chicago or Camden, nj.0
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