Spring NA Tour Officially Postponed

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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,906
    Zod said:
    DM282158 said:
    Deadman said:
    D-Rod said:

    Yea I would bet a lot of money that these dates will need to be re-rescheduled. There is no chance that there will be concerts or sporting events of any kind until there is a vaccine. So, we are looking at Summer 2021 in my opinion. Sad. But inescapable. 
    Unfortunately, I pray that I’m wrong but I can only see things this way.  Concerts/sports won’t be taking place until well into 2021.  Again, pray I’m wrong.
    Under this theory, schools won't be open until well into 2021 as well. That is why we will have to learn to "live" with it until there is a vaccine. 
    Not saying I disagree with this one bit. We all need to get used to this new normal. But governments may go bankrupt if this stuff lasts a year. If we keep doing the stimulus plans in place. I’m applying for 2 months of funding for my business payroll (PPP loan). Not sure how many times the government can afford to offer that. 
    That's how I'm feeling about it too.   People discard the "trump supporter" argument of the damage staying at home does to the economy.    It might be a little cold, the economy vs. lives argument, but they aren't 100% wrong.   If everyone's staying at home, then no one is pulling in cash flow.   Government is floating a big chunk of the boat just to keep things rolling.  I think they can only pull off for a few months.   The cost of paying everyone to stay at home will get to be too much.   Society isn't really designed for everyone to stay at home.

    I guess the question is what will happen if this thing isn't licked,.  What's the breaking point of people not paying their bills, losing jobs, and business closing before people get frustrated and decide to go back.

    It's the tough thing with the flatten the curve approach.   No one really put's an estimate of what that looks like, if successful, how long would people need to say in isolation.  Maybe because it's not a great answer.
    The flu, influenza, kills 20,000 on average every year.  Most people don’t realize this.  The thing about this virus is it’s new.  Scientists are still learning and a vaccine is in development.  The majority of folks that get Covid 19 have flu like symptoms and recover from it. Like the flu, it’s a virus and can’t be killed with antibiotics. You have to fight it off, like everyone does with influenza.  We can’t be shut down forever. The economy has to open back up.  The new normal will include us all practicing common sense social distancing and good hygiene- ie. washing hands frequently etc. We need to get back to life - with a new normal. 
    I realize the flu kills people every year, but I think people use that argument to under emphasize what's going on.   Like the flu killed this many people, Coronavirus has only done this kind of thing.  Except it seems Coronavirus is just getting started.   It's numbers aren't done yet.   It seems really hard too.  It's all over the map on how much it's impacting people.  Some people get no symptoms, some people get mild symptoms, some people have bad symptoms, and some people have severe issues.   It's hitting the older harder, but it's impacting some young folks as well.   Where the outbreaks haven't been well contained hospitals are at or passed capacity.   In a way that the flu doesn't really do.

    I feel the Coronavirus is worse than the flu but not anything like an ebola, smallpox, etc.....    It seems much more contagious than the flu, which means more people, more problems.  

    I also agree on the economic argument.   They can only keep things closed for song long.   If the only plan is flatten the curve so we have small growth for an indefinite amount of time.  Somethings going to give.  

    Personally, I have Asthma (at least it's mild).   This seems to put me more in the at risk category.  Still, there's that part of me that just wants to get it done and over with... sigh.
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,067
    We’ll never control it if we don’t test and track like South Korea. We’re flying blind right now and just reacting. 
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    ComeToTX said:
    We’ll never control it if we don’t test and track like South Korea. We’re flying blind right now and just reacting. 
    I agree. The hospitals being overwhelmed and deaths will be our guide sadly. 
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,906
    ComeToTX said:
    We’ll never control it if we don’t test and track like South Korea. We’re flying blind right now and just reacting. 
    Definitely.  If the goal is to get to zero cases you need to test a lot, and when you find someone that has it, test everyone they've been around and try to isolate that branch of it.

    I guess countries that lick it first are going to have issues.  They'll be able to fire back up, but they won't be able to let anyone travel in/out as it runs risk of sparking it up again.