RIP Kobe Bryant

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    I wonder what the value of the current NBA logo is?  I'm sure some bean counter has assigned a value to it.  If you think about it, the major sports leagues' logos in the world may have the most value of anything because a major corporation like Coca Cola or Nike will pay them a shitload of money to put their logo next to the league logo.

    So will the NBA make a change to the logo?  Well, I'm sure the bean counters are working to determine potential value and risk involved.  I doubt there is.  
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  • Poncier
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    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    DewieCox said:
    There’s a petition to change the NBA logo to Kobe’s silhouette. 

    Normally these things are a little too reactionary but what he did for the game globally was immeasurable. 
    Oh boy, now that’s quite a knee jerk reaction.


    Agreed.


    There's only one individual worthy of replacing Jerry West as the logo, and with all due respect it is not Kobe Bryant.

    MJ?
    Stockton?

    LEBRON!  DAMN RIGHT. 
    Nope, Detlef Schrempf...j/k




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  • Jason P said:
    I wonder what the value of the current NBA logo is?  I'm sure some bean counter has assigned a value to it.  If you think about it, the major sports leagues' logos in the world may have the most value of anything because a major corporation like Coca Cola or Nike will pay them a shitload of money to put their logo next to the league logo.

    So will the NBA make a change to the logo?  Well, I'm sure the bean counters are working to determine potential value and risk involved.  I doubt there is.  
    NBA and MLB logos are very easily recognizable.  Any ideas what the NFL or NHL are?
  • mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    DewieCox said:
    There’s a petition to change the NBA logo to Kobe’s silhouette. 

    Normally these things are a little too reactionary but what he did for the game globally was immeasurable. 
    Oh boy, now that’s quite a knee jerk reaction.


    Agreed.


    There's only one individual worthy of replacing Jerry West as the logo, and with all due respect it is not Kobe Bryant.

    MJ?
    Stockton?

    LEBRON!  DAMN RIGHT. 
    Nope, Detlef Schrempf...j/k


    In some ways...this is the official NBA logo. Of at least the official basketball logo. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    DewieCox said:
    There’s a petition to change the NBA logo to Kobe’s silhouette. 

    Normally these things are a little too reactionary but what he did for the game globally was immeasurable. 
    Oh boy, now that’s quite a knee jerk reaction.


    Agreed.


    There's only one individual worthy of replacing Jerry West as the logo, and with all due respect it is not Kobe Bryant.

    MJ?
    Stockton?

    LEBRON!  DAMN RIGHT. 
    Nope, Detlef Schrempf...j/k




    Chris Dudley

    Air balling a free throw
    That would be hilarious
  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    edited January 2020
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    DewieCox said:
    There’s a petition to change the NBA logo to Kobe’s silhouette. 

    Normally these things are a little too reactionary but what he did for the game globally was immeasurable. 
    Oh boy, now that’s quite a knee jerk reaction.


    Agreed.


    There's only one individual worthy of replacing Jerry West as the logo, and with all due respect it is not Kobe Bryant.

    MJ?
    Stockton?

    LEBRON!  DAMN RIGHT. 
    Nope, Detlef Schrempf...j/k




    Chris Dudley

    Air balling a free throw
    That would be hilarious
    I wonder who would win a FT contest between him and Deandre Jordan.
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  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    mrussel1 said:
    The problem with Jordan is that... I think it's pretty commonly accepted that he was suspended from the NBA for gambling.  It's the only thing that makes sense.  Lebron is clean as a whistle.  People can complain about lots of things on the court about complaining to the refs, or whatever, but what you cannot do is credibly criticize him as a human.  If you think about the scrutiny he's been under since he was a teenager, it's pretty damn impressive.  
    Lol, fake news on Jordan... cmon suspended..lol
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The problem with Jordan is that... I think it's pretty commonly accepted that he was suspended from the NBA for gambling.  It's the only thing that makes sense.  Lebron is clean as a whistle.  People can complain about lots of things on the court about complaining to the refs, or whatever, but what you cannot do is credibly criticize him as a human.  If you think about the scrutiny he's been under since he was a teenager, it's pretty damn impressive.  
    Lol, fake news on Jordan... cmon suspended..lol
    You've never heard that? 
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    mrussel1 said:
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The problem with Jordan is that... I think it's pretty commonly accepted that he was suspended from the NBA for gambling.  It's the only thing that makes sense.  Lebron is clean as a whistle.  People can complain about lots of things on the court about complaining to the refs, or whatever, but what you cannot do is credibly criticize him as a human.  If you think about the scrutiny he's been under since he was a teenager, it's pretty damn impressive.  
    Lol, fake news on Jordan... cmon suspended..lol
    You've never heard that? 
    I've heard it but I don't think it makes much sense, nor do I believe it is commonly accepted as being true. Jordan was a gambler and maybe he had a problem, but Stern secretly suspending him to cover it up makes no sense at all as far as cover ups go. You don't shine a big bright light on the thing you are trying to hide. Jordan's retirement became a huge story, as did his attempt to play baseball. There was press following him around everywhere. If it ever came out that the NBA had suspended him for gambling AND the league was trying to hide that fact, it would be so much worse them.

    If you were to try and orchestrate something like this, faking an injury is the way to go. Guys get hurt all the time and drop out of the public eye while they recover. A secret suspension is way too risky.
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  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    mrussel1 said:
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The problem with Jordan is that... I think it's pretty commonly accepted that he was suspended from the NBA for gambling.  It's the only thing that makes sense.  Lebron is clean as a whistle.  People can complain about lots of things on the court about complaining to the refs, or whatever, but what you cannot do is credibly criticize him as a human.  If you think about the scrutiny he's been under since he was a teenager, it's pretty damn impressive.  
    Lol, fake news on Jordan... cmon suspended..lol
    You've never heard that? 
    Yep, I have also heard of big foot.
  • ed243421
    ed243421 Posts: 7,730
    edited January 2020
    Mike’s 56 year old father was murdered 11 weeks before he announced his first retirement.

    Wasn’t a suspension.
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  • mrussel1 said:
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The problem with Jordan is that... I think it's pretty commonly accepted that he was suspended from the NBA for gambling.  It's the only thing that makes sense.  Lebron is clean as a whistle.  People can complain about lots of things on the court about complaining to the refs, or whatever, but what you cannot do is credibly criticize him as a human.  If you think about the scrutiny he's been under since he was a teenager, it's pretty damn impressive.  
    Lol, fake news on Jordan... cmon suspended..lol
    You've never heard that? 
    Hahhahahahahaha. Dude, come on. This is a long-running joke for people. I can’t believe you’d consider it to be true.  David Stern would have personally sucked MJ’s dick in his minor league baseball dugout to get him to return to the NBA sooner. 
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  • mrussel1 said:
    MedozK said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The problem with Jordan is that... I think it's pretty commonly accepted that he was suspended from the NBA for gambling.  It's the only thing that makes sense.  Lebron is clean as a whistle.  People can complain about lots of things on the court about complaining to the refs, or whatever, but what you cannot do is credibly criticize him as a human.  If you think about the scrutiny he's been under since he was a teenager, it's pretty damn impressive.  
    Lol, fake news on Jordan... cmon suspended..lol
    You've never heard that? 
    Hahhahahahahaha. Dude, come on. This is a long-running joke for people. I can’t believe you’d consider it to be true.  David Stern would have personally sucked MJ’s dick in his minor league baseball dugout to get him to return to the NBA sooner. 
    Isn't that why MJ returned?
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,787
    mrussel1 said:
    The problem with Jordan is that... I think it's pretty commonly accepted that he was suspended from the NBA for gambling.  It's the only thing that makes sense.  Lebron is clean as a whistle.  People can complain about lots of things on the court about complaining to the refs, or whatever, but what you cannot do is credibly criticize him as a human.  If you think about the scrutiny he's been under since he was a teenager, it's pretty damn impressive.  


    "Pretty commonly accepted" is a huge reach.

    I've heard of the conspiracy, and I think there may be something there, but I don't know a single person who believes it as a fact.

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    mrussel1 said:
    The problem with Jordan is that... I think it's pretty commonly accepted that he was suspended from the NBA for gambling.  It's the only thing that makes sense.  Lebron is clean as a whistle.  People can complain about lots of things on the court about complaining to the refs, or whatever, but what you cannot do is credibly criticize him as a human.  If you think about the scrutiny he's been under since he was a teenager, it's pretty damn impressive.  


    "Pretty commonly accepted" is a huge reach.

    I've heard of the conspiracy, and I think there may be something there, but I don't know a single person who believes it as a fact.

    I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but three years shleping in minor league baseball doesn't make any sense.  I believe Stern had to do something, but did not want to damage the game. That's my opinion.  I'm certainly not interested in getting into a long discussion on it, because it will go nowhere.  But I think the argument has merit and there are plenty of non-lunatics that believe it to be somewhere between possible and likely.  
    Either way, put Lebron  on there when he retires.  
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,787
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The problem with Jordan is that... I think it's pretty commonly accepted that he was suspended from the NBA for gambling.  It's the only thing that makes sense.  Lebron is clean as a whistle.  People can complain about lots of things on the court about complaining to the refs, or whatever, but what you cannot do is credibly criticize him as a human.  If you think about the scrutiny he's been under since he was a teenager, it's pretty damn impressive.  


    "Pretty commonly accepted" is a huge reach.

    I've heard of the conspiracy, and I think there may be something there, but I don't know a single person who believes it as a fact.

    I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but three years shleping in minor league baseball doesn't make any sense.  I believe Stern had to do something, but did not want to damage the game. That's my opinion.  I'm certainly not interested in getting into a long discussion on it, because it will go nowhere.  But I think the argument has merit and there are plenty of non-lunatics that believe it to be somewhere between possible and likely.  
    Either way, put Lebron  on there when he retires.  

    I don't think it's without merit either, but to say it's "pretty commonly accepted" is a reach.

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The problem with Jordan is that... I think it's pretty commonly accepted that he was suspended from the NBA for gambling.  It's the only thing that makes sense.  Lebron is clean as a whistle.  People can complain about lots of things on the court about complaining to the refs, or whatever, but what you cannot do is credibly criticize him as a human.  If you think about the scrutiny he's been under since he was a teenager, it's pretty damn impressive.  


    "Pretty commonly accepted" is a huge reach.

    I've heard of the conspiracy, and I think there may be something there, but I don't know a single person who believes it as a fact.

    I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but three years shleping in minor league baseball doesn't make any sense.  I believe Stern had to do something, but did not want to damage the game. That's my opinion.  I'm certainly not interested in getting into a long discussion on it, because it will go nowhere.  But I think the argument has merit and there are plenty of non-lunatics that believe it to be somewhere between possible and likely.  
    Either way, put Lebron  on there when he retires.  

    I don't think it's without merit either, but to say it's "pretty commonly accepted" is a reach.

    I talked to my brother and he agreed.  Ergo, it's unanimous using the statistically significant sample of 2, with a MOE of 99%.  
  • Glorified KC
    Glorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,814
    Having a parent murdered the way MJ's dad was, would probably have me thinking that life's too short.  More power to him for at least trying to fulfill his potential on baseball.  Tragedy's put a lot of us in situations where we start to try to appreciate life for more than we typically do.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,787
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The problem with Jordan is that... I think it's pretty commonly accepted that he was suspended from the NBA for gambling.  It's the only thing that makes sense.  Lebron is clean as a whistle.  People can complain about lots of things on the court about complaining to the refs, or whatever, but what you cannot do is credibly criticize him as a human.  If you think about the scrutiny he's been under since he was a teenager, it's pretty damn impressive.  


    "Pretty commonly accepted" is a huge reach.

    I've heard of the conspiracy, and I think there may be something there, but I don't know a single person who believes it as a fact.

    I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but three years shleping in minor league baseball doesn't make any sense.  I believe Stern had to do something, but did not want to damage the game. That's my opinion.  I'm certainly not interested in getting into a long discussion on it, because it will go nowhere.  But I think the argument has merit and there are plenty of non-lunatics that believe it to be somewhere between possible and likely.  
    Either way, put Lebron  on there when he retires.  

    I don't think it's without merit either, but to say it's "pretty commonly accepted" is a reach.

    I talked to my brother and he agreed.  Ergo, it's unanimous using the statistically significant sample of 2, with a MOE of 99%.  
    Gotcha.
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    A fair number of high profile athletes desired to be two sport professionals at the time (Bo, Deion, MJ and I'm sure I'm missing some).  MJ was arguably the best athlete on the planet and wanted to show he could join those ranks.  It didn't have anything to do with gambling.