OFFICIAL TM PLATINUM ????? PJ...please ...say it ain't so.
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This supply demand dynamic sounds like a lot of mumbo jumbo to me.0
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patkelly12 said:This supply demand dynamic sounds like a lot of mumbo jumbo to me.
Any new realizations... would have to wait...
Til he had more time,... more time...
Time to dream,... to himself... he waves goodbye,
To himself... I'll see you on the other side...0 -
Kel Varnsen said:PB11041 said:If they are selling these for Vitalogy Foundation I guess I really don't care. But mostly I also don't care if some schmuck wants to pay like $1,500 to see Pearl Jam. Also, somebody paid $400 to see Ricky Gervais? I really think he is quite funny, but that is nuts.
As I have said before the only real way to eliminate scalping is to price tickets high enough so there is no profit to be made by scalpers or to play so many shows that you basically flood the market.
If they go back to plying 50 shows every other year the demand would go down.0 -
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I just bought a ticket for four shows through the fan club with very little effort on my part. These shows will likely be sellouts. It cost me $500. For four shows to a legendary band that plays 2.5 hours. So cheap comparatively to what others charge.Thank you!0
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We should all calm down. It is extraordinarily unusual for Platinum seats to go on sale AFTER the general sale (they may remain on sale if they are unsold, but not to START after the General). Platinum usually opens with the very first pre-sale. They are dynamically priced seats, but not necessarily the best (though for obvious reasons, they typically are).
I think the Vitalogy guess is a good one, but we'll find out. And if it's PJ taking advantage of their popularity - good for them. They should reap the rewards of their work however they see fit. But, based on past actions, Vitalogy foundation seems like a sound guess.
EDIT: And, as usual I should have read the entire thread - confirmed after I read the first page and replied. Good for them.Post edited by EdsonNascimento onSorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.0 -
The platinum goes on sale 11 days after the general sale. Most of those seats are going to be 10 club members. PJ tickets are usually sold out by then. During the home/away shows they had Charity tickets
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I honestly feel this is an unfair criticism of the band, and perhaps even TicketMaster.
StubHub has changed EVERYTHING... Band's, sports teams, performers, and theaters now receive data on what their tickets sell for second hand. By selling certain tickets at a mark-up, the tickets are actually taken away from the scalpers (by cutting into the profit), and often benefit a charity of the artist's choice. If the seats were part of a public onsale, or a name-some-corporation-presale, then scalpers would most likely purchase the seats cheaper, and resell them for higher than the platinum prices... and no charity would benefit.
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These aren’t vitalogy foundation seats. These are a way for tm to scalp their own tickets.0
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LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan said:These aren’t vitalogy foundation seats. These are a way for tm to scalp their own tickets.
You want to know the true solution to secondary markets? Charging ACTUAL market value based on demand. Congratulations, every lower bowl ticket to any major market Pearl Jam concert is now $1000 face value. Uppers bowl are $750 and nose bleeds are $350. There is no more secondary market for a few people that can afford the super premium expensive tickets that offset the lower face value. Its one market with ONLY the expensive tickets for EVERYONE. This fan base already freaks out over tickets that are relatively cheap by comparison. Imagine what would happen if the tickets were the actual market value and only financially feasible or top tier earners. The shows would still sell out...the band, ticketmaster, live nation would all still get paid....but most of us wouldn't see tickets again. What would you guys prefer? I handful of premium tickets for sale, or all tickets being astronomical.
Something most people don't seem to realize in our fandom is that ticket master and live nation control most venue options. The fact that the band has negotiated control of 99% of the floor and lower bowl seats in each arena is massive. It means that they are making WAY less money on this than they should.
I'm super fortunate, I am in a line of work that affords me the luxury of being connected at some degree with most major sporting/entertainment venues. In most cases, if miss out on tickets for event I want to see, I can make a call to a contact and purchase what I would consider to be very good seats for the event I want to see at face value from their venue holds. It's that easy. Almost any event. Except with Pearl Jam.
It's why I continue to be a fan club member. It's relatively easy (i''ve had some lucky tours and some not lucky tours) to get tickets (and good tickets at that) through the fan club than it is any other way. In the past when I have tried to use my contacts for PJ shows I've missed out on, its either "sorry, no can do", "I'd be happy to help but you need to ask me for help with literally any other band" or "I can help, but we don't have access to good seats" . This is not just arena contacts. It has been the same with Live Nation contacts.
Most of you have no idea how lucky we are.
1993 - Toronto
1996 - Toronto
1998 - Barrie
2000 - Toronto
2003 - Buffalo, Toronto
2005 - Hamilton, Toronto
2006 - Toronto I, Toronto II
2008 - EV solo Toronto I
2010 - Buffalo, Newark
2011 - Toronto I, Toronto II, Hamilton
2013 - London, Chicago, Buffalo, Brooklyn I, Brooklyn II, Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II
2014 - Detroit
2016 - Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II, New York I, New York II, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II, Chicago I, Chicago II
2018 - Boston I, Boston II0 -
I'm super fortunate, I am in a line of work that affords me the luxury of being connected at some degree
and if you weren't ?Any new realizations... would have to wait...
Til he had more time,... more time...
Time to dream,... to himself... he waves goodbye,
To himself... I'll see you on the other side...0 -
andrew68 said:I'm super fortunate, I am in a line of work that affords me the luxury of being connected at some degree
and if you weren't ?
Thats what I think people miss here the most often. Even though the game has changed over the past 25 years, this band still gets more tickets in the hands of fans and a lower cost than any similar stature band I an think of.1993 - Toronto
1996 - Toronto
1998 - Barrie
2000 - Toronto
2003 - Buffalo, Toronto
2005 - Hamilton, Toronto
2006 - Toronto I, Toronto II
2008 - EV solo Toronto I
2010 - Buffalo, Newark
2011 - Toronto I, Toronto II, Hamilton
2013 - London, Chicago, Buffalo, Brooklyn I, Brooklyn II, Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II
2014 - Detroit
2016 - Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II, New York I, New York II, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II, Chicago I, Chicago II
2018 - Boston I, Boston II0 -
Ticket buying reality in 2020: buy during the presale or on the onsale date. If you wait any longer, you will pay more.
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The prices are not all bad. We almost bought Billie Eilish platinum tickets for Bridgestone Arena. They were great seats and way cheaper than the nosebleeds. Double the sale price tho.0
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Is it just me or are there way to many people on here who don't understand "platinum" pricing and who benefits financially?0
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darthvedder said:Ticket buying reality in 2020: buy during the presale or on the onsale date. If you wait any longer, you will pay more.
Got 2nd row Wilco at Radio City for $210. They were as high as $500 - platinum can come down also0 -
Sports teams, Broadway, the Opera, etc. all charge premium prices for premium tickets
But damn it that rock band better not charge one penny more than $98 for next to stage tickets, after I steal their album on Napster.0 -
I am curious if people are going to be ok with their 10 club seats getting pushed back further and further for these platinum seats.0
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I thought recognizing the laws of economics was prohibited. I can’t keep track anymore.0
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F Me In The Brain said:PB11041 said:F Me In The Brain said:What does this mean? How does one get access to Official Platinum and what does it include?Not sure my body can take that"A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory0
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