OFFICIAL TM PLATINUM ????? PJ...please ...say it ain't so.

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  • patkelly12
    patkelly12 CT Posts: 361
    This supply demand dynamic sounds like a lot of mumbo jumbo to me.
  • andrew68
    andrew68 Toronto Posts: 1,845
    This supply demand dynamic sounds like a lot of mumbo jumbo to me.
    next big drop for any popular band or event...log into TM...it's crazy...the prices change in front of your eyes

    Any new realizations... would have to wait...
    Til he had more time,... more time...
    Time to dream,... to himself... he waves goodbye,
    To himself... I'll see you on the other side...
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    PB11041 said:
    If they are selling these for Vitalogy Foundation I guess I really don't care.  But mostly I also don't care if some schmuck wants to pay like $1,500 to see Pearl Jam.  Also, somebody paid $400 to see Ricky Gervais?  I really think he is quite funny, but that is nuts.
    I am sort of thinking the same thing. People get mad when scalpers buy up all the tickets and sell them for an inflated price that the market will pay. So now they change the way tickets are sold so that can't happen and sell a small number of tickets themselves at a price the market will pay and people still get upset. Not sure I see the problem other than people wanting the best tickets for the cheapest price.

    As I have said before the only real way to eliminate scalping is to price tickets high enough so there is no profit to be made by scalpers or to play so many shows that you basically flood the market.
    Or just do a real tour. They create a huge demand by playing a handful of shows every few years where most people have to travel to see them.
    If they go back to plying 50 shows every other year the demand would go down.
  • danny
    danny Posts: 2,283
    Disgraceful 
    danny d
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    I just bought a ticket for four shows through the fan club with very little effort on my part.   These shows will likely be sellouts.  It cost me $500.  For four shows to a legendary band that plays 2.5 hours.   So cheap comparatively to what others charge.  

    Thank you!
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    edited January 2020
    We should all calm down. It is extraordinarily unusual for Platinum seats to go on sale AFTER the general sale (they may remain on sale if they are unsold, but not to START after the General). Platinum usually opens with the very first pre-sale. They are dynamically priced seats, but not necessarily the best (though for obvious reasons, they typically are).

    I think the Vitalogy guess is a good one, but we'll find out.   And if it's PJ taking advantage of their popularity - good for them.  They should reap the rewards of their work however they see fit.  But, based on past actions, Vitalogy foundation seems like a sound guess. 

    EDIT:  And, as usual I should have read the entire thread - confirmed after I read the first page and replied.  Good for them.  
    Post edited by EdsonNascimento on
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,636
    The platinum goes on sale 11 days after the general sale. Most of those seats are going to be 10 club members. PJ tickets are usually sold out by then. During the home/away shows they had Charity tickets
    I miss igotid88
  • 3days
    3days Posts: 1,200
    I honestly feel this is an unfair criticism of the band, and perhaps even TicketMaster.

    StubHub has changed EVERYTHING... Band's, sports teams, performers, and theaters now receive data on what their tickets sell for second hand. By selling certain tickets at a mark-up, the tickets are actually taken away from the scalpers (by cutting into the profit), and often benefit a charity of the artist's choice. If the seats were part of a public onsale, or a name-some-corporation-presale, then scalpers would most likely purchase the seats cheaper, and resell them for higher than the platinum prices... and no charity would benefit. 
  • These aren’t vitalogy foundation seats. These are a way for tm to scalp their own tickets.
  • Clapper
    Clapper Toronto Posts: 209
    These aren’t vitalogy foundation seats. These are a way for tm to scalp their own tickets.

    You want to know the true solution to secondary markets?   Charging ACTUAL market value based on demand. Congratulations, every lower bowl ticket to any major market Pearl Jam concert is now $1000 face value. Uppers bowl are $750 and nose bleeds are $350.  There is no more secondary market for a few people that can afford the super premium expensive tickets  that offset the lower face value. Its one market with ONLY the expensive tickets for EVERYONE.  This fan base already freaks out over tickets that are relatively cheap by comparison. Imagine what would happen if  the tickets were the actual market value and only financially feasible or top tier earners.  The shows would still sell out...the band, ticketmaster, live nation would all still get paid....but most of us wouldn't see tickets again.   What would you guys prefer?  I handful of premium tickets for sale, or all tickets being astronomical. 

    Something most people don't seem to realize in our fandom is that ticket master and live nation control most venue options.  The fact that the band has negotiated control of 99% of the floor and lower bowl seats in each arena is massive.  It means that they are making WAY less money on this than they should. 

    I'm super fortunate,  I am in a line of work that affords me the luxury of being connected at some degree with most major sporting/entertainment  venues.  In most cases, if miss out on tickets for event I want to see, I can make a call to a contact and purchase what I would consider to be very good seats for the event I want to see at face value from their venue holds.  It's that easy. Almost any event.  Except with Pearl Jam. 

    It's why I continue to be a fan club member. It's relatively easy (i''ve had some lucky tours and some not lucky tours) to get tickets (and good tickets at that) through the fan club than it is any other way.  In the past when I have tried to use my contacts for PJ shows I've missed out on, its either "sorry, no can do", "I'd be happy to help but you need to ask me for help with literally any other band" or "I can help, but we don't have access to good seats" .  This is not just arena contacts. It has been the same with Live Nation contacts. 

    Most of you have no idea how lucky we are. 



    1993 - Toronto
    1996 - Toronto
    1998 - Barrie
    2000 - Toronto
    2003 - Buffalo, Toronto
    2005 - Hamilton, Toronto
    2006 - Toronto I, Toronto II
    2008 - EV solo Toronto I
    2010 - Buffalo, Newark
    2011 - Toronto I, Toronto II, Hamilton
    2013 - London, Chicago, Buffalo, Brooklyn I, Brooklyn II, Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II
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  • andrew68
    andrew68 Toronto Posts: 1,845
    I'm super fortunate,  I am in a line of work that affords me the luxury of being connected at some degree 


    and if you weren't ?
    Any new realizations... would have to wait...
    Til he had more time,... more time...
    Time to dream,... to himself... he waves goodbye,
    To himself... I'll see you on the other side...
  • Clapper
    Clapper Toronto Posts: 209
    andrew68 said:
    I'm super fortunate,  I am in a line of work that affords me the luxury of being connected at some degree 


    and if you weren't ?
    You obviously didn't read to the bottom of my post.  The point was that it has been of help in almost every other scenario for any other act I've needed help with. It is rarely of much help in the case of Pearl Jam because they are so careful about how they control access to tickets.

    Thats what I think people miss here the most often.   Even though the game has changed over the past 25 years, this band still gets more tickets in the hands of fans and a lower cost than any similar stature band I an think of.  
    1993 - Toronto
    1996 - Toronto
    1998 - Barrie
    2000 - Toronto
    2003 - Buffalo, Toronto
    2005 - Hamilton, Toronto
    2006 - Toronto I, Toronto II
    2008 - EV solo Toronto I
    2010 - Buffalo, Newark
    2011 - Toronto I, Toronto II, Hamilton
    2013 - London, Chicago, Buffalo, Brooklyn I, Brooklyn II, Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II
    2014 - Detroit
    2016 - Philadelphia I, Philadelphia II, New York I, New York II, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II, Chicago I, Chicago II
    2018 - Boston I, Boston II
  • darthvedder
    darthvedder Posts: 2,672
    Ticket buying reality in 2020: buy during the presale or on the onsale date. If you wait any longer, you will pay more.
  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    The prices are not all bad. We almost bought Billie Eilish platinum tickets for Bridgestone Arena. They were great seats and way cheaper than the nosebleeds.   Double the sale price tho. 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,420
    Is it just me or are there way to many people on here who don't understand "platinum" pricing and who benefits financially?
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,889
    Ticket buying reality in 2020: buy during the presale or on the onsale date. If you wait any longer, you will pay more.


    Got 2nd row Wilco at Radio City for $210. They were as high as $500 - platinum can come down also
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,889
    Sports teams, Broadway, the Opera, etc. all charge premium prices for premium tickets 

    But damn it that rock band better not charge one penny more than $98 for next to stage tickets, after I steal their album on Napster. 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    I am curious if people are going to be ok with their 10 club seats getting pushed back further and further for these platinum seats. 
  • patkelly12
    patkelly12 CT Posts: 361
    I thought recognizing the laws of economics was prohibited. I can’t keep track anymore. 
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,364
    PB11041 said:
    What does this mean?  How does one get access to Official Platinum and what does it include?
    you get a date with junbugtn24

    :lol:

    Not sure my body can take that
    Please! You're not known as the 10C size queen for nothing.  ;)
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory