2020 United States & Canada Tour Rumors

demetrios · January 2020

Early in the pre sale ..

Lerxst1992 · January 2020

JM144705 said:

Damn, MSG is already at 13% for GA

On it's way to 0.00000001%

PeterED · January 2020

NewfieintheUSA said:

PeterED said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

PeterED said:

mrvector said:

PeterED said:
Why would that be the assumption?

I would expect that if a member puts MSG GA as their first choice and MSG Seating as their second AND they are not successful in the GA lottery that they would be placed AFTER all of the MSG Seating first choice lottery winners have been processed.

(when I asked 3000 pages ago for a clear explanation of the system I was scoffed at yet clearly there are many questions.)

But there isn't GA first choice, Res second choice anymore. You can't prioritize one over the other unless you simply don't pick one. If you choose both, it defaults to Best Available. So, they run the lottery for GA, winners picked from those who chose that as one of their options. Once that's filled, they run the lottery for Res, winners picked from those that had Res as one of their options. That is my understanding.

I would think the people who selected Seating as their first (or only choice as it seems to be) choice would be processed before those who did not. But who knows. (There doesn't seem to be anything clear on this point.)

Doesn't sound like it

Based on what? It all seems like speculation at this point.

Did you read the response I got from TC Ticketmaster?

I did. But it's this line "Once your request is selected, you will be granted the best available tickets based on what you've selected" that is throwing me off because it doesn't account for seniority with reserved seating.

PeterED · January 2020

PJNB said:

If you want to get in the building and want reserved and not GA do not pick GA or best available. It does not help your odds out at all and only hurts people that want GA's odds.

That doesn't align with what a number of people are suggesting.

Weston1283 · January 2020

Lerxst1992 said:

JM144705 said:

Damn, MSG is already at 13% for GA

On it's way to 0.00000001%

I wouldn't be shocked if it hits <1%. I doubt we get any more of a specific number than that

josevolution · January 2020

ComeToTX said:

PeterED said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

Emailed the Ten Club Ticketmaster customer service.

Looks like they are going to randomly draw from all entries, if your choice is still available, you get it, if not, you don't. So not doing GA first then Reserved like they used to do. I've sent a follow-up email to confirm that GA is always considered Best available.

Email text below

Thank you for getting back with us today. We are happy to address your concerns. Orders will not be processed based on seat selections. Requests will be randomly selected to have tickets processed. Once your request is selected, you will be granted the best available tickets based on what you've selected. For your request we do show you've selected only the GA Pit option. Once your request is selected to be processed, we will only process the order if GA Pit is still available at that time and you will only be granted that type of ticket. Fans will be notified by Sunday, January 19 if tickets were granted.

Hmmm...that seems odd because it doesn't account for seniority when assigning reserved seats. And that would be contrary to the policy as stated on the 10C presale web page.

i'm guessing all the seat assignments will be done after the drawing is done.

Yeah I’d think so email did state reserved tickets will be assigned by seniority...

PJNB · January 2020

PeterED said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

PeterED said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

PeterED said:

mrvector said:

PeterED said:
Why would that be the assumption?

I would expect that if a member puts MSG GA as their first choice and MSG Seating as their second AND they are not successful in the GA lottery that they would be placed AFTER all of the MSG Seating first choice lottery winners have been processed.

(when I asked 3000 pages ago for a clear explanation of the system I was scoffed at yet clearly there are many questions.)

But there isn't GA first choice, Res second choice anymore. You can't prioritize one over the other unless you simply don't pick one. If you choose both, it defaults to Best Available. So, they run the lottery for GA, winners picked from those who chose that as one of their options. Once that's filled, they run the lottery for Res, winners picked from those that had Res as one of their options. That is my understanding.

I would think the people who selected Seating as their first (or only choice as it seems to be) choice would be processed before those who did not. But who knows. (There doesn't seem to be anything clear on this point.)

Doesn't sound like it

Based on what? It all seems like speculation at this point.

Did you read the response I got from TC Ticketmaster?

I did. But it's this line "Once your request is selected, you will be granted the best available tickets based on what you've selected" that is throwing me off because it doesn't account for seniority with reserved seating.

It takes into account if you picked best available or not and if GA is still available. Best available just means GA or reserved. If GA is already full then you get reserved. It has nothing to do with seat allocation.

BV84003 · January 2020

Franklin Delano Bluth said:

I’m assuming your security code is your seniority number? Mine was low 12xxxx and wife’s was 65xxxx

Hmm.. That's really interesting if that's the case because mine was a much lower number than my real number of 49xxxx (since I let it lapse from like 2004-2012ish) - Maybe that was my original number, I don't really recall anymore. Loophole?

NewfieintheUSA · January 2020

demetrios said:

Early in the pre sale ..

Best available is going to kill GA odds more than usual

rmwatson · January 2020

It is pretty simple - they are not drawing based on GA first and then Res; rather, they are drawing an entry (hopefully mine for example), and looking at my choice. I chose Best Available option; therefore, if there are any GA tickets left, i would get two of those, if not, I get two reserved seating. My seats would then later be assigned based on my seniority number. Had I only chosen GA, and all of the GA tix were gone when my entry got pulled, I would be out of luck.

Its really the same when you are in one of those fast 10AM Ticketmaster sales, always go Best Available if you want in the building. If you have to be somewhere in particular, take the time to pick out a certain level while the bots eat up all the tickets. My $0.02, I will be interested to see how it works out, but I really like this new system.

OceansJenny · January 2020

JM144705 said:

Damn, MSG is already at 13% for GA

Thats ok as long as reserved is still 99%.

I love this new system!! Pick your shows and move on with life!

JimmyV · January 2020

PeterED said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

PeterED said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

PeterED said:

mrvector said:

PeterED said:
Why would that be the assumption?

I would expect that if a member puts MSG GA as their first choice and MSG Seating as their second AND they are not successful in the GA lottery that they would be placed AFTER all of the MSG Seating first choice lottery winners have been processed.

(when I asked 3000 pages ago for a clear explanation of the system I was scoffed at yet clearly there are many questions.)

But there isn't GA first choice, Res second choice anymore. You can't prioritize one over the other unless you simply don't pick one. If you choose both, it defaults to Best Available. So, they run the lottery for GA, winners picked from those who chose that as one of their options. Once that's filled, they run the lottery for Res, winners picked from those that had Res as one of their options. That is my understanding.

I would think the people who selected Seating as their first (or only choice as it seems to be) choice would be processed before those who did not. But who knows. (There doesn't seem to be anything clear on this point.)

Doesn't sound like it

Based on what? It all seems like speculation at this point.

Did you read the response I got from TC Ticketmaster?

I did. But it's this line "Once your request is selected, you will be granted the best available tickets based on what you've selected" that is throwing me off because it doesn't account for seniority with reserved seating.

Best available refers only to GA over reserved. It's not talking about where your reserved seats would be.

NewfieintheUSA · January 2020

PeterED said:

PJNB said:

If you want to get in the building and want reserved and not GA do not pick GA or best available. It does not help your odds out at all and only hurts people that want GA's odds.

That doesn't align with what a number of people are suggesting.

Their email was clear, when you are selected if your choice is available, you get it. There is no way there is a scenario where all reserved seats are selected before GA are all selected. There are way more reserved seats at each arena then there are GA. So if you really want reserved, there is no point in putting in Best Available, it doesn't changes your odds for Reserved at all.

pjpitt89 · January 2020

rmwatson said:

It is pretty simple - they are not drawing based on GA first and then Res; rather, they are drawing an entry (hopefully mine for example), and looking at my choice. I chose Best Available option; therefore, if there are any GA tickets left, i would get two of those, if not, I get two reserved seating. My seats would then later be assigned based on my seniority number. Had I only chosen GA, and all of the GA tix were gone when my entry got pulled, I would be out of luck.

Its really the same when you are in one of those fast 10AM Ticketmaster sales, always go Best Available if you want in the building. If you have to be somewhere in particular, take the time to pick out a certain level while the bots eat up all the tickets. My $0.02, I will be interested to see how it works out, but I really like this new system.

I was going to type this same thing. This is how I see it from what's out there.

Saltzy23 · January 2020

It's almost like they worked out an agreement where the GA is the only real 'lotto' left as there is clearly less supply to go around, and all the losing requests will be granted seats with the venues and TM.

Otherwise it is basically impossible that GA is 13% and Res is still at 99%.

If that is the case, again, I think vibe and energy at these shows is gonna be off the meter.

JM144705 · January 2020

OceansJenny said:

JM144705 said:

Damn, MSG is already at 13% for GA

Thats ok as long as reserved is still 99%.

I love this new system!! Pick your shows and move on with life!

Oh I agree, except me moving on is checking the odds like a lunatic for the next 3 days

radial21 · January 2020

Guys, I think everyone is overthinking this

If you want only GA, select just GA
If you want only reserved, select just reserved

if you want in the building and don’t care if you get GA or reserved, select best available

what you select as your option has no bearing on odds of getting pulled for seats, it’s all a random draw. If you get pulled then they will look at your selections, and you will get or be denied tickets based on those selections

hornig12 · January 2020

Spoke to my ticket rep at msg and put in a request for house tickets.while the request was put through she told me that they only had a very limited amount of tickets for the house most were going to be Ten club tickets !! good news for ten clubbers

Lerxst1992 · January 2020

Saltzy23 said:

I am blown away that they were able to allocate as many seats as they apparently have for MSG for 10C members.

A. There will be basically no seats left for either of the other sales.

B. The building is going to be absolutely ROCKING if it's all 10C.

That show is gonna be fucking insane.

2016 was mostly 10c as well.

Very very very few front of stage tickets were available on the resale sites = locked up by the club.

It was an impossible ticket then. It will be just as impossible now, despite what that email says.

PresentlyAlive · January 2020

hornig12 said:

Spoke to my ticket rep at msg and put in a request for house tickets.while the request was put through she told me that they only had a very limited amount of tickets for the house most were going to be Ten club tickets !! good news for ten clubbers

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