Iran Deal, the reset..... and halt

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

"Iran appears to be standing down". LOL. what a load of horseshit. Iran called Trump's bluff. But if his constant need to be seen as the stronger force deescalates the situation, so be it. 

If you were giving that speech, you’d say the same thing.  I thought it was a brilliantly worded portion of that to be honest. 

I didn't see the speech. I suppose I should have watched it prior to commenting. out of context it just sounded like saving face to me. 

It was actually pretty good. As usual trump does something positive and it is nothing but crickets in here.  

I see what you're saying, but what you're really saying here is that he's so terrible that he needs to be praised for reading a prepared speech without taking questions and not royally fucking it up. 

mcgruff10 said:

tbergs said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

pjl44 said:

tbergs said:

cincybearcat said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

"Iran appears to be standing down". LOL. what a load of horseshit. Iran called Trump's bluff. But if his constant need to be seen as the stronger force deescalates the situation, so be it. 

If you were giving that speech, you’d say the same thing.  I thought it was a brilliantly worded portion of that to be honest. 

I didn't see the speech. I suppose I should have watched it prior to commenting. out of context it just sounded like saving face to me. 

It was actually pretty good. As usual trump does something positive and it is nothing but crickets in here.  Instead of talking about the speech we talk about whether or not he wears a diaper.  

Eight people commented on the speech. That’s not crickets. Not everyone agrees with you that it was something positive. 

So what were the negatives? 

This is like asking someone to tell you what was so negative about the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing. "All is well. Your mom is backing down. If Obama hadn't given her that phone she would have never called the police..."

Normal, healthy analogy 

No not normal at all, and neither is anything Trump does or says. Go ahead, if you're married, next time you do something that makes your spouse mad, read a prepared statement from a friend with no investment in the statement. I'm sure it will go well.

I think being the President and addressing a world-wide TV/Internet audience of millions is a little different than talking your way out of your spouse being mad at you. Of course he's going to read a prepared statement in a situation like this. I hate to stick up for Trump because he's so vile and awful. But some of you guys scrape the bottom of the barrel with your complaints about him. And pjl44 is right, that analogy was pretty strange. But that's what Trump does to some people. A simple speech about the situation with Iran has you equating it to "the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing." Yikes. 

I've been told before that I take things a bit extreme. Oh well, makes it clear how I feel about it. Trump continues to rape this nation and the people of other countries with his actions, so I think it's apropos.

Well fair enough. As long as you're not one of these unhinged Trump-haters. I worry for them almost as much I worry for the unhinged Trump-lovers. 

Not unhinged at all. My wife is good at reminding me my analogies are a little much. I'm a bit dark like that.

Do your analogies get better or worse after a few ipa s?

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

pjl44 said:

tbergs said:

cincybearcat said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

"Iran appears to be standing down". LOL. what a load of horseshit. Iran called Trump's bluff. But if his constant need to be seen as the stronger force deescalates the situation, so be it. 

If you were giving that speech, you’d say the same thing.  I thought it was a brilliantly worded portion of that to be honest. 

I didn't see the speech. I suppose I should have watched it prior to commenting. out of context it just sounded like saving face to me. 

It was actually pretty good. As usual trump does something positive and it is nothing but crickets in here.  Instead of talking about the speech we talk about whether or not he wears a diaper.  

Eight people commented on the speech. That’s not crickets. Not everyone agrees with you that it was something positive. 

So what were the negatives? 

This is like asking someone to tell you what was so negative about the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing. "All is well. Your mom is backing down. If Obama hadn't given her that phone she would have never called the police..."

Normal, healthy analogy 

No not normal at all, and neither is anything Trump does or says. Go ahead, if you're married, next time you do something that makes your spouse mad, read a prepared statement from a friend with no investment in the statement. I'm sure it will go well.

I think being the President and addressing a world-wide TV/Internet audience of millions is a little different than talking your way out of your spouse being mad at you. Of course he's going to read a prepared statement in a situation like this. I hate to stick up for Trump because he's so vile and awful. But some of you guys scrape the bottom of the barrel with your complaints about him. And pjl44 is right, that analogy was pretty strange. But that's what Trump does to some people. A simple speech about the situation with Iran has you equating it to "the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing." Yikes. 

Right but this is the guy that always pointed out how Obama used telepromters (using his spelling)

I'm glad he's using a teleprompter.  I"m glad Obama did.  A president speaks for a nation, and therefore the words should be carefully chosen and crafted, not riffed.  My problem with this is the complete folly of the strategy.  So while I can agree with @cincybearcat that I'm glad it's not worse, I simply cannot look at this speech in a vacuum and give him credit.  My God, why did the last week even happen?  The whole episode is absolutely sickening.  And it's not because the general is dead, it's that we've reset the foreign policy with Iran back 20 years.  

And there are very few people behind the scenes right now.  The ones that were supposed to protect us have resigned.

Right, the pros.  Evidently Pompeo was the big advocate for the strike.  He's been passionately itching for a conflict with Iran from days well before State.  

Bad dude dead and two nations have avoided a major confrontation.  Who knows, maybe this will lead to peace?

Halifax2TheMax said:

cincybearcat said:

Why can't we talk about things about trump without bringing all the other things into it.  Can't anyone here just discuss the current event without extrapolating?

1) I know trump started this mess with a crazy assassination of an Iranian official....not good.  Unsure if there was any real data/reasoning (imminent threats).  I tend to think there were not, other than the obvious fact that he was always working towards potential threats.  But then again, so is Putin.

Regardless of how we go to this point, his words today were at least on point (for the most part) and will allow things to settle down a little.  Just as the Iranian's throwing rockets hoping to not kill people.  So while I'm under no illusion that Iran will actually stop trying to hurt america and especially American interests in the middle east and I am under no illusion that trump is all calm now and won't do something stupid...I feel better than I did before his speech.  Not a lot better, but a little. and at least I don't feel worse.

Start a “Things Trump Does Well” thread.

Ledbetterman10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

pjl44 said:

tbergs said:

cincybearcat said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

"Iran appears to be standing down". LOL. what a load of horseshit. Iran called Trump's bluff. But if his constant need to be seen as the stronger force deescalates the situation, so be it. 

If you were giving that speech, you’d say the same thing.  I thought it was a brilliantly worded portion of that to be honest. 

I didn't see the speech. I suppose I should have watched it prior to commenting. out of context it just sounded like saving face to me. 

It was actually pretty good. As usual trump does something positive and it is nothing but crickets in here.  Instead of talking about the speech we talk about whether or not he wears a diaper.  

Eight people commented on the speech. That’s not crickets. Not everyone agrees with you that it was something positive. 

So what were the negatives? 

This is like asking someone to tell you what was so negative about the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing. "All is well. Your mom is backing down. If Obama hadn't given her that phone she would have never called the police..."

Normal, healthy analogy 

No not normal at all, and neither is anything Trump does or says. Go ahead, if you're married, next time you do something that makes your spouse mad, read a prepared statement from a friend with no investment in the statement. I'm sure it will go well.

I think being the President and addressing a world-wide TV/Internet audience of millions is a little different than talking your way out of your spouse being mad at you. Of course he's going to read a prepared statement in a situation like this. I hate to stick up for Trump because he's so vile and awful. But some of you guys scrape the bottom of the barrel with your complaints about him. And pjl44 is right, that analogy was pretty strange. But that's what Trump does to some people. A simple speech about the situation with Iran has you equating it to "the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing." Yikes. 

Right but this is the guy that always pointed out how Obama used telepromters (using his spelling)

There's no doubting that he's a total hypocrite. A dumb one too because many of his hypocrisies can be proven through old tweets of his. So I think commenting that "Trump is a hypocrite that does what he criticized Obama for" would be a pretty sensible post. His speech being tantamount to a "prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing" isn't as sensible. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

wearing a diaper. jesus christ. who cares if he does. seriously, some older men have control issues. can you imagine them being broadcast globally?

He deserves whatever ridicule can be attributed to him.  His people still think Hillary molests children in a pizza joint.

I just think it's offside to consider making fun of a medical condition as something to be embarrassed about or ok to be ridiculed about. I prefer to mock him for his actions, rather than his appearance or physical/medical issues. 

If it were anyone else I wouldn't make fun.  But you know for a fact that he would be tweeting about Hillary, Biden, etc. wearing a diaper if the opportunity presented itself.  He deserves everything that can be thrown at him.

yes, I do know that for a fact. if he starts to suffer from parkinsons, are you going to start waving your arms around in a jerky way when impersonating him too?

I aim higher than that. whether he deserves it or not is irrelevant. I am saying everyone else who suffers from it doesn't deserve it. 

gimmesometruth27 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

because of some of our technology we had advance knowledge that the missiles were incoming
that was kind of cool i guess. saved some lives.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-knew-iranian-missiles-were-130330752.html

also iran had notified iraq that it was coming.

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

pjl44 said:

tbergs said:

cincybearcat said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

"Iran appears to be standing down". LOL. what a load of horseshit. Iran called Trump's bluff. But if his constant need to be seen as the stronger force deescalates the situation, so be it. 

If you were giving that speech, you’d say the same thing.  I thought it was a brilliantly worded portion of that to be honest. 

I didn't see the speech. I suppose I should have watched it prior to commenting. out of context it just sounded like saving face to me. 

It was actually pretty good. As usual trump does something positive and it is nothing but crickets in here.  Instead of talking about the speech we talk about whether or not he wears a diaper.  

Eight people commented on the speech. That’s not crickets. Not everyone agrees with you that it was something positive. 

So what were the negatives? 

This is like asking someone to tell you what was so negative about the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing. "All is well. Your mom is backing down. If Obama hadn't given her that phone she would have never called the police..."

Normal, healthy analogy 

No not normal at all, and neither is anything Trump does or says. Go ahead, if you're married, next time you do something that makes your spouse mad, read a prepared statement from a friend with no investment in the statement. I'm sure it will go well.

I think being the President and addressing a world-wide TV/Internet audience of millions is a little different than talking your way out of your spouse being mad at you. Of course he's going to read a prepared statement in a situation like this. I hate to stick up for Trump because he's so vile and awful. But some of you guys scrape the bottom of the barrel with your complaints about him. And pjl44 is right, that analogy was pretty strange. But that's what Trump does to some people. A simple speech about the situation with Iran has you equating it to "the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing." Yikes. 

Right but this is the guy that always pointed out how Obama used telepromters (using his spelling)

There's no doubting that he's a total hypocrite. A dumb one too because many of his hypocrisies can be proven through old tweets of his. So I think commenting that "Trump is a hypocrite that does what he criticized Obama for" would be a pretty sensible post. His speech being tantamount to a "prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing" isn't as sensible. 

he ordered the murder of someone and then made a speech telling everyone to calm down, because the (in this scenario) victim's family isn't going to do anything about. how is that comparison not sensible?

mrussel1 said:

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tbergs said:

pjl44 said:

tbergs said:

cincybearcat said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

cincybearcat said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

"Iran appears to be standing down". LOL. what a load of horseshit. Iran called Trump's bluff. But if his constant need to be seen as the stronger force deescalates the situation, so be it. 

If you were giving that speech, you’d say the same thing.  I thought it was a brilliantly worded portion of that to be honest. 

I didn't see the speech. I suppose I should have watched it prior to commenting. out of context it just sounded like saving face to me. 

It was actually pretty good. As usual trump does something positive and it is nothing but crickets in here.  Instead of talking about the speech we talk about whether or not he wears a diaper.  

Eight people commented on the speech. That’s not crickets. Not everyone agrees with you that it was something positive. 

So what were the negatives? 

This is like asking someone to tell you what was so negative about the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing. "All is well. Your mom is backing down. If Obama hadn't given her that phone she would have never called the police..."

Normal, healthy analogy 

No not normal at all, and neither is anything Trump does or says. Go ahead, if you're married, next time you do something that makes your spouse mad, read a prepared statement from a friend with no investment in the statement. I'm sure it will go well.

I think being the President and addressing a world-wide TV/Internet audience of millions is a little different than talking your way out of your spouse being mad at you. Of course he's going to read a prepared statement in a situation like this. I hate to stick up for Trump because he's so vile and awful. But some of you guys scrape the bottom of the barrel with your complaints about him. And pjl44 is right, that analogy was pretty strange. But that's what Trump does to some people. A simple speech about the situation with Iran has you equating it to "the prepared speech the guy who just raped your mom gave at his sentencing." Yikes. 

Right but this is the guy that always pointed out how Obama used telepromters (using his spelling)

I'm glad he's using a teleprompter.  I"m glad Obama did.  A president speaks for a nation, and therefore the words should be carefully chosen and crafted, not riffed.  My problem with this is the complete folly of the strategy.  So while I can agree with @cincybearcat that I'm glad it's not worse, I simply cannot look at this speech in a vacuum and give him credit.  My God, why did the last week even happen?  The whole episode is absolutely sickening.  And it's not because the general is dead, it's that we've reset the foreign policy with Iran back 20 years.  

And there are very few people behind the scenes right now.  The ones that were supposed to protect us have resigned.

Right, the pros.  Evidently Pompeo was the big advocate for the strike.  He's been passionately itching for a conflict with Iran from days well before State.  

Bad dude dead and two nations have avoided a major confrontation.  Who knows, maybe this will lead to peace?

We had peace under Obama.  The peace was broken.