***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,196
    jeffbr said:
    how long until trump starts rounding up americans of middle eastern descent and putting them in jail?
    It seemed to play well for that racist fuck FDR. History seems to revere him despite his rounding up Americans and putting them in concentration camps due to the shape of their eyes.
    i think history reveres FDR for his domestic achievements more than anything he did during WWII. he died before WWII ended, so the new deal is what he is remembered most for.

    i am not excusing him for what he did with those camps. we were attacked and he did what he felt what he had to do as disgusting as it was. 

    trump's domestic legacy is terrible, and he attacked iran instead of iran attacking us. it is kind of an opposite situation in this case.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,452
    brianlux said:
    is ordering assassination of a foreign leader without authorization of congress another impeachable offense?
    No, learned that in 5th grade.   

    Same here.  Learned that in our fifth grade Poli Sci class in the AM which was followed by Clinical Procedures of Advanced Thoracic Aortic Dissection Repair 101 just before lunch.
    It's better to learn the Thoracic stuff after lunch.
    That way it's easier to see who can hold their lunch.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    2017
    jeffbr said:
    how long until trump starts rounding up americans of middle eastern descent and putting them in jail?
    It seemed to play well for that racist fuck FDR. History seems to revere him despite his rounding up Americans and putting them in concentration camps due to the shape of their eyes.
    i think history reveres FDR for his domestic achievements more than anything he did during WWII. he died before WWII ended, so the new deal is what he is remembered most for.

    i am not excusing him for what he did with those camps. we were attacked and he did what he felt what he had to do as disgusting as it was. 

    trump's domestic legacy is terrible, and he attacked iran instead of iran attacking us. it is kind of an opposite situation in this case.
    The fact FDR felt he had to do it is exactly what I'm calling out. He was a sick fucker and gets no pass from me. I don't hold him to any different standard than I'd hold Trump to. A racist piece of shit is a racist piece of shit, even if they happen to do a couple of good things.
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  • 3,000 troops were just deployed to Iran. 
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,543
    It's like Ted Kennedy. As long as your politics are deemed correct, people are more than happy to wave off the horrific shit you did with an asterisk. 
  • 3,000 troops were just deployed to Iran. 
    Middle East. Big difference.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,196
    jeffbr said:
    jeffbr said:
    how long until trump starts rounding up americans of middle eastern descent and putting them in jail?
    It seemed to play well for that racist fuck FDR. History seems to revere him despite his rounding up Americans and putting them in concentration camps due to the shape of their eyes.
    i think history reveres FDR for his domestic achievements more than anything he did during WWII. he died before WWII ended, so the new deal is what he is remembered most for.

    i am not excusing him for what he did with those camps. we were attacked and he did what he felt what he had to do as disgusting as it was. 

    trump's domestic legacy is terrible, and he attacked iran instead of iran attacking us. it is kind of an opposite situation in this case.
    The fact FDR felt he had to do it is exactly what I'm calling out. He was a sick fucker and gets no pass from me. I don't hold him to any different standard than I'd hold Trump to. A racist piece of shit is a racist piece of shit, even if they happen to do a couple of good things.
    i agree with you. i was speaking from historical consensus among people who have done documentaries on FDR, not my own personal opinion.

    even terrible people do something right once in a while. trump signed the legislation making animal cruelty a felony. still does not excuse the other terrible shit he says and does on an hourly basis.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    2018
    how long until trump starts rounding up americans of middle eastern descent and putting them in jail?
    The proper answer is not too fucking long.   Sorry for the swear words.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,415
    jeffbr said:
    jeffbr said:
    how long until trump starts rounding up americans of middle eastern descent and putting them in jail?
    It seemed to play well for that racist fuck FDR. History seems to revere him despite his rounding up Americans and putting them in concentration camps due to the shape of their eyes.
    i think history reveres FDR for his domestic achievements more than anything he did during WWII. he died before WWII ended, so the new deal is what he is remembered most for.

    i am not excusing him for what he did with those camps. we were attacked and he did what he felt what he had to do as disgusting as it was. 

    trump's domestic legacy is terrible, and he attacked iran instead of iran attacking us. it is kind of an opposite situation in this case.
    The fact FDR felt he had to do it is exactly what I'm calling out. He was a sick fucker and gets no pass from me. I don't hold him to any different standard than I'd hold Trump to. A racist piece of shit is a racist piece of shit, even if they happen to do a couple of good things.
    Funny, I always personally have hated Teddy more than Franklin, but now that you put it in perspective, fuck them both.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,196
    3,000 troops were just deployed to Iran. 
    Middle East. Big difference.
    yes agree. 

    i wonder if this assassination was also a way to take the heat off of bibi. if he gets israel involved in a war, will the proceedings against him stop?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mrussel1
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    jeffbr said:
    jeffbr said:
    how long until trump starts rounding up americans of middle eastern descent and putting them in jail?
    It seemed to play well for that racist fuck FDR. History seems to revere him despite his rounding up Americans and putting them in concentration camps due to the shape of their eyes.
    i think history reveres FDR for his domestic achievements more than anything he did during WWII. he died before WWII ended, so the new deal is what he is remembered most for.

    i am not excusing him for what he did with those camps. we were attacked and he did what he felt what he had to do as disgusting as it was. 

    trump's domestic legacy is terrible, and he attacked iran instead of iran attacking us. it is kind of an opposite situation in this case.
    The fact FDR felt he had to do it is exactly what I'm calling out. He was a sick fucker and gets no pass from me. I don't hold him to any different standard than I'd hold Trump to. A racist piece of shit is a racist piece of shit, even if they happen to do a couple of good things.
    i agree with you. i was speaking from historical consensus among people who have done documentaries on FDR, not my own personal opinion.

    even terrible people do something right once in a while. trump signed the legislation making animal cruelty a felony. still does not excuse the other terrible shit he says and does on an hourly basis.
    It's always important to have historical perspective.  I feel like these are overstated criticisms,  using the morals of today,  not those of 80 years ago.  You can say something was clearly wrong now,  but saying FDR was a racist pos is over the top. 
  • 3,000 troops were just deployed to Iran. 
    Middle East. Big difference.
    That's what I meant to say. My bad. 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,681
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    https://youtu.be/IDJgwUeW7_k
    Yep them war drums are drumming , the Baffoon is a war monger he knows the impeachment evidence is totally legit , so why not sacrifice a few thousand Americans and who knows how many Iranians&Iraqis will end up dead ...time for protest to start 
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  • 3,000 troops were just deployed to Iran. 
    Middle East. Big difference.
    yes agree. 

    i wonder if this assassination was also a way to take the heat off of bibi. if he gets israel involved in a war, will the proceedings against him stop?
    A double dog wag? Sure, it’s possible. This has Jared Dear Boy written all over it.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,681
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    3,000 troops were just deployed to Iran. 
    Middle East. Big difference.
    yes agree. 

    i wonder if this assassination was also a way to take the heat off of bibi. if he gets israel involved in a war, will the proceedings against him stop?
    A double dog wag? Sure, it’s possible. This has Jared Dear Boy written all over it.
    Yep we stand with aristocratic dictatorship regimes it’s not even questionable any more , fucking animals the whole Baffoon family needs to go away now ..
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    2017
    mrussel1 said:
    jeffbr said:
    jeffbr said:
    how long until trump starts rounding up americans of middle eastern descent and putting them in jail?
    It seemed to play well for that racist fuck FDR. History seems to revere him despite his rounding up Americans and putting them in concentration camps due to the shape of their eyes.
    i think history reveres FDR for his domestic achievements more than anything he did during WWII. he died before WWII ended, so the new deal is what he is remembered most for.

    i am not excusing him for what he did with those camps. we were attacked and he did what he felt what he had to do as disgusting as it was. 

    trump's domestic legacy is terrible, and he attacked iran instead of iran attacking us. it is kind of an opposite situation in this case.
    The fact FDR felt he had to do it is exactly what I'm calling out. He was a sick fucker and gets no pass from me. I don't hold him to any different standard than I'd hold Trump to. A racist piece of shit is a racist piece of shit, even if they happen to do a couple of good things.
    i agree with you. i was speaking from historical consensus among people who have done documentaries on FDR, not my own personal opinion.

    even terrible people do something right once in a while. trump signed the legislation making animal cruelty a felony. still does not excuse the other terrible shit he says and does on an hourly basis.
    It's always important to have historical perspective.  I feel like these are overstated criticisms,  using the morals of today,  not those of 80 years ago.  You can say something was clearly wrong now,  but saying FDR was a racist pos is over the top. 
    My views generally align with yours on many things, but not on this one. I don't think it is over the top in the slightest. Different standards, perhaps. But we were well past the days of slavery. This was a supposedly intelligent and enlightened leader who decided that because our enemy had a certain eye shape, Americans with the same shaped eyes should have their lives utterly destroyed - their homes and livelihoods trashed. Perhaps it is because of the area I'm from, having known a couple of families affected, etc... But it was an absolute abomination to everything we hold dear. FDR was a sick fucker and should never be revered for his unforgivable authoritarian and racist act.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,415
    So now that we're on the brink of another war in the middle east, this administration and the GOP party leaders will relentlessly use this "national security issue" to avoid moving forward with the impeachment process because we can't go through that while trying to defend our freedom.

    The next step is to establish some sort of local threat to garner continued support and push through to November.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,543
    mrussel1 said:
    jeffbr said:
    jeffbr said:
    how long until trump starts rounding up americans of middle eastern descent and putting them in jail?
    It seemed to play well for that racist fuck FDR. History seems to revere him despite his rounding up Americans and putting them in concentration camps due to the shape of their eyes.
    i think history reveres FDR for his domestic achievements more than anything he did during WWII. he died before WWII ended, so the new deal is what he is remembered most for.

    i am not excusing him for what he did with those camps. we were attacked and he did what he felt what he had to do as disgusting as it was. 

    trump's domestic legacy is terrible, and he attacked iran instead of iran attacking us. it is kind of an opposite situation in this case.
    The fact FDR felt he had to do it is exactly what I'm calling out. He was a sick fucker and gets no pass from me. I don't hold him to any different standard than I'd hold Trump to. A racist piece of shit is a racist piece of shit, even if they happen to do a couple of good things.
    i agree with you. i was speaking from historical consensus among people who have done documentaries on FDR, not my own personal opinion.

    even terrible people do something right once in a while. trump signed the legislation making animal cruelty a felony. still does not excuse the other terrible shit he says and does on an hourly basis.
    It's always important to have historical perspective.  I feel like these are overstated criticisms,  using the morals of today,  not those of 80 years ago.  You can say something was clearly wrong now,  but saying FDR was a racist pos is over the top. 

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