***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    2019
    dankind said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    What do the Dems think is going to happen from all this except that what they tried to do ultimately failed?

    I seriously don't understand what was trying to be accomplished if the Senate wasn't going to oust him in the first place.
    Seriously? Come on man. A permanent stain on his record is an enormous thing in annalls of history. 

    Is it their fault the republicans are feckless cowards? You think because they are likely not to convict, they should say, aw, fuck it...go ahead and invite foreign countries to meddle in next year's elections with zero consequences! No, of course not. They did exactly what they had to do. They cannot control the senate.

    Impeaching a president is not "ultimately failing". It is permanent and it is forever and it was the right thing to do. I think it's even more powerful a statement because it was not the most politically expedient move for them to make. 

    Now lets see if there can be a fair trial or not. 
    Adolph Hitler has a permanent stain in the annals of history, but he's still got to carry out his master plan.

    Germany was torn apart for decades. 

    Past is prologue...?
    We'll find out in November. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    2019
    josevolution said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    angry_skull said:
    I bet he goes for a second and third impeachment. "Best, most impeached president ever."

    I am pretty sure we see him laughingly referencing this sometime in the coming days. 
    What a fucking joke this guy is.  Anyone who likes him just baffles me.  (As a person...if you like him as a person you are absolutely baffling to me.  Has there been a more unlikable public figure recently?)
    Everyone forgets that he was a likable guy at one point.  He was in movies for years, did spots on Stern for years, had a tv show.  People actually liked him, hell I liked him.

    It's only recently that he became president and the dirt starts to come out that makes you see the other side of a person and not like him.  I would say that a lot of people don't care about that side of him and still support him.

    This is so incredibly shortsighted that I don't have the time to respond fully.

    He was a D list celebrity who was in Home Alone for 5 seconds 30 years ago. As a D list celebrity nobody really bothered to look at his racist and corrupt record that dates back to the 1970's. Fuck, my wife and I liked him on the Apprentice for years. Always thought it was funny that a guy who bankrupted a casino four times was being hailed as a titan of business. But it was a stupid mindless tv show. Who really gave a shit at the time?

    It was not until his racist birther-ism nonsense that people started taking a closer look at him and realizing what kind of person he was. This, mind you, was YEARS before he became president. 


    Sheesh. 

    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    josevolution said:
    Jason P said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jason P said:
    Well at least if Biden wins we will have a POTUS with an impeccable record and guarded public speaking that will in no way open himself up to the GOP using this as a precident to launch a similar show in a few years.  Whew.  
    So you think what Trump did with Ukraine is either acceptable or standard presidential behavior?
    What I think is that this will get shot down in the Senate. 
    So because of that looming scenario you believe this should of never been done? In other words let him do what ever he wants since he is the president..
    I would say that what he did goes on everyday in politics.  The Dems are so hellbent at ousting him that they found their shot and took it and will fail miserably.

    I tell you I am about fed up w politics and the lack of bipartisanship and please don't tell me it's all the rep fault.  That is what IS wrong w politics.
    It literally does not. Did you suffer a stroke? That's why hardly any republicans are agreeing with him that it was a "perfect call." 

    You think it's common for presidents to call upon foreign leaders and essentially ask them to interfere in our election for their own personal benefit? And then hold up much needed aid until they do? And then block a lawfully investigation into such an act?

    Ladies and gentlemen....welcome to the twilight zone. 


    What the fuck.




    Agreed 100%
    Thank you. Jeez, this is crazy town right now. 

    Facts still matter, folks. 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,251
    2018
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    angry_skull said:
    I bet he goes for a second and third impeachment. "Best, most impeached president ever."

    I am pretty sure we see him laughingly referencing this sometime in the coming days. 
    What a fucking joke this guy is.  Anyone who likes him just baffles me.  (As a person...if you like him as a person you are absolutely baffling to me.  Has there been a more unlikable public figure recently?)
    Everyone forgets that he was a likable guy at one point.  He was in movies for years, did spots on Stern for years, had a tv show.  People actually liked him, hell I liked him.

    It's only recently that he became president and the dirt starts to come out that makes you see the other side of a person and not like him.  I would say that a lot of people don't care about that side of him and still support him.

    This is so incredibly shortsighted that I don't have the time to respond fully.

    He was a D list celebrity who was in Home Alone for 5 seconds 30 years ago. As a D list celebrity nobody really bothered to look at his racist and corrupt record that dates back to the 1970's. Fuck, my wife and I liked him on the Apprentice for years. Always thought it was funny that a guy who bankrupted a casino four times was being hailed as a titan of business. But it was a stupid mindless tv show. Who really gave a shit at the time?

    It was not until his racist birther-ism nonsense that people started taking a closer look at him and realizing what kind of person he was. This, mind you, was YEARS before he became president. 


    Sheesh. 
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    angry_skull said:
    I bet he goes for a second and third impeachment. "Best, most impeached president ever."

    I am pretty sure we see him laughingly referencing this sometime in the coming days. 
    What a fucking joke this guy is.  Anyone who likes him just baffles me.  (As a person...if you like him as a person you are absolutely baffling to me.  Has there been a more unlikable public figure recently?)
    Everyone forgets that he was a likable guy at one point.  He was in movies for years, did spots on Stern for years, had a tv show.  People actually liked him, hell I liked him.

    It's only recently that he became president and the dirt starts to come out that makes you see the other side of a person and not like him.  I would say that a lot of people don't care about that side of him and still support him.

    This is so incredibly shortsighted that I don't have the time to respond fully.

    He was a D list celebrity who was in Home Alone for 5 seconds 30 years ago. As a D list celebrity nobody really bothered to look at his racist and corrupt record that dates back to the 1970's. Fuck, my wife and I liked him on the Apprentice for years. Always thought it was funny that a guy who bankrupted a casino four times was being hailed as a titan of business. But it was a stupid mindless tv show. Who really gave a shit at the time?

    It was not until his racist birther-ism nonsense that people started taking a closer look at him and realizing what kind of person he was. This, mind you, was YEARS before he became president. 


    Sheesh. 
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,301
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    What do the Dems think is going to happen from all this except that what they tried to do ultimately failed?

    I seriously don't understand what was trying to be accomplished if the Senate wasn't going to oust him in the first place.
    Seriously? Come on man. A permanent stain on his record is an enormous thing in annalls of history. 

    Is it their fault the republicans are feckless cowards? You think because they are likely not to convict, they should say, aw, fuck it...go ahead and invite foreign countries to meddle in next year's elections with zero consequences! No, of course not. They did exactly what they had to do. They cannot control the senate.

    Impeaching a president is not "ultimately failing". It is permanent and it is forever and it was the right thing to do. I think it's even more powerful a statement because it was not the most politically expedient move for them to make. 

    Now lets see if there can be a fair trial or not. 
    I was for the impeachment.  I’m glad they stood up for something instead of just ignoring the issues because the Republicans wouldn’t do anything in the Senate.

    That said, this impeachment means nothing.  I can’t imagine it sways public opinion in any meaningful way.  We pretend that we are in an era where political norms apply and impeachment is a big deal.  We are not in that era anymore.  That is not a good thing.  This impeachment is essentially the equivalent of a censure.   Has no teeth.  Trump went on stage and told some widow her husband was looking up at her from hell.  Status quo continues.  
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,983
    "THE FIELD"
    tempo_n_groove said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    angry_skull said:
    I bet he goes for a second and third impeachment. "Best, most impeached president ever."

    I am pretty sure we see him laughingly referencing this sometime in the coming days. 
    What a fucking joke this guy is.  Anyone who likes him just baffles me.  (As a person...if you like him as a person you are absolutely baffling to me.  Has there been a more unlikable public figure recently?)
    Everyone forgets that he was a likable guy at one point.  He was in movies for years, did spots on Stern for years, had a tv show.  People actually liked him, hell I liked him.

    It's only recently that he became president and the dirt starts to come out that makes you see the other side of a person and not like him.  I would say that a lot of people don't care about that side of him and still support him.

    I don't forget that...I was one of the people who liked (laughing at) him.

    Also agree about the people who support what the impact to their wallet is of him being president.
    My comment was more about people who like him, think he is a good dude, at this point. 

    dankind said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    angry_skull said:
    I bet he goes for a second and third impeachment. "Best, most impeached president ever."

    I am pretty sure we see him laughingly referencing this sometime in the coming days. 
    What a fucking joke this guy is.  Anyone who likes him just baffles me.  (As a person...if you like him as a person you are absolutely baffling to me.  Has there been a more unlikable public figure recently?)
    According to the 2016 election results, Hillary Clinton might fit the bill. 

    Yeah, I guess I can see that. 
    Wonder about now?  I am not a fan of Hillary, but in a "who is a better person match" she beats him like a drum. 

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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,513
    What this continues to confirm is that written word means very little when there is no actual physical outcome. At the end of the day, this asshole has the same amount of power and control as he did at 800am yesterday. As he continues to realize nothing changes and support doesn't tank, he won't change. The only solution is voting him out. I may be pessimistic as hell and given up on the human race, but I am not quite at rock bottom like some of you on here talking about 30 more years of Trumps. There will be a civil war before that ever fucking happens; guaranteed.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,044
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    josevolution said:
    Jason P said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jason P said:
    Well at least if Biden wins we will have a POTUS with an impeccable record and guarded public speaking that will in no way open himself up to the GOP using this as a precident to launch a similar show in a few years.  Whew.  
    So you think what Trump did with Ukraine is either acceptable or standard presidential behavior?
    What I think is that this will get shot down in the Senate. 
    So because of that looming scenario you believe this should of never been done? In other words let him do what ever he wants since he is the president..
    I would say that what he did goes on everyday in politics.  The Dems are so hellbent at ousting him that they found their shot and took it and will fail miserably.

    I tell you I am about fed up w politics and the lack of bipartisanship and please don't tell me it's all the rep fault.  That is what IS wrong w politics.
    It literally does not. Did you suffer a stroke? That's why hardly any republicans are agreeing with him that it was a "perfect call." 

    You think it's common for presidents to call upon foreign leaders and essentially ask them to interfere in our election for their own personal benefit? And then hold up much needed aid until they do? And then block a lawfully investigation into such an act?

    Ladies and gentlemen....welcome to the twilight zone. 


    What the fuck.




    You think it's common for presidents to call upon foreign leaders and essentially ask them to interfere in our election for their own personal benefit?

    I have a problem with this because that is not what happened.  Sorry, not buyng this for a second.  You can imply that but that is not what happened.
    You have lost your mind. 
    Trump wanted him investigated.  Where does it say that he wanted foreign countries to interfere w the election?  If that happened then I missed that.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,251
    2018
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    josevolution said:
    Jason P said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jason P said:
    Well at least if Biden wins we will have a POTUS with an impeccable record and guarded public speaking that will in no way open himself up to the GOP using this as a precident to launch a similar show in a few years.  Whew.  
    So you think what Trump did with Ukraine is either acceptable or standard presidential behavior?
    What I think is that this will get shot down in the Senate. 
    So because of that looming scenario you believe this should of never been done? In other words let him do what ever he wants since he is the president..
    I would say that what he did goes on everyday in politics.  The Dems are so hellbent at ousting him that they found their shot and took it and will fail miserably.

    I tell you I am about fed up w politics and the lack of bipartisanship and please don't tell me it's all the rep fault.  That is what IS wrong w politics.
    It literally does not. Did you suffer a stroke? That's why hardly any republicans are agreeing with him that it was a "perfect call." 

    You think it's common for presidents to call upon foreign leaders and essentially ask them to interfere in our election for their own personal benefit? And then hold up much needed aid until they do? And then block a lawfully investigation into such an act?

    Ladies and gentlemen....welcome to the twilight zone. 


    What the fuck.




    You think it's common for presidents to call upon foreign leaders and essentially ask them to interfere in our election for their own personal benefit?

    I have a problem with this because that is not what happened.  Sorry, not buyng this for a second.  You can imply that but that is not what happened.
    You have lost your mind. 
    Trump wanted him investigated.  Where does it say that he wanted foreign countries to interfere w the election?  If that happened then I missed that.
    Yeah you missed it it’s too bad I don’t think you’ve lost your mind but maybe your hat is on to tight 

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,554
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    Jason P said:
    ok boomer

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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    2018
    I took my Bernie sign out of the window last nite outta respect for the office.

    It's back this morning.  executive privilege?  TESTIFY.  

    If only they had simple crime or misdemeanor (other than being a stone cold fascist dictator) they could pin on this divisive fucker.  good thing they have a few weeks over XMAS.

    Or...we'll be left chants of TSA TSA TSA or DSA DSA DSA echoing through history and the THUGGERY and intimidation will continue.

    Impeach Remove Pardon

    Is Mike Pence really that bad?


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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,044
    ikiT said:
    I took my Bernie sign out of the window last nite outta respect for the office.

    It's back this morning.  executive privilege?  TESTIFY.  

    If only they had simple crime or misdemeanor (other than being a stone cold fascist dictator) they could pin on this divisive fucker.  good thing they have a few weeks over XMAS.

    Or...we'll be left chants of TSA TSA TSA or DSA DSA DSA echoing through history and the THUGGERY and intimidation will continue.

    Impeach Remove Pardon

    Is Mike Pence really that bad?


    I wouldn't want Pence in charge.
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    2018
    tempo_n_groove said:
    ikiT said:
    I took my Bernie sign out of the window last nite outta respect for the office.

    It's back this morning.  executive privilege?  TESTIFY.  

    If only they had simple crime or misdemeanor (other than being a stone cold fascist dictator) they could pin on this divisive fucker.  good thing they have a few weeks over XMAS.

    Or...we'll be left chants of TSA TSA TSA or DSA DSA DSA echoing through history and the THUGGERY and intimidation will continue.

    Impeach Remove Pardon

    Is Mike Pence really that bad?


    I wouldn't want Pence in charge.
    Compared to Twitler?  for 10 months?  
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    2018
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 42,044
    ikiT said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    ikiT said:
    I took my Bernie sign out of the window last nite outta respect for the office.

    It's back this morning.  executive privilege?  TESTIFY.  

    If only they had simple crime or misdemeanor (other than being a stone cold fascist dictator) they could pin on this divisive fucker.  good thing they have a few weeks over XMAS.

    Or...we'll be left chants of TSA TSA TSA or DSA DSA DSA echoing through history and the THUGGERY and intimidation will continue.

    Impeach Remove Pardon

    Is Mike Pence really that bad?


    I wouldn't want Pence in charge.
    Compared to Twitler?  for 10 months?  
    Remember Chaney?  That is how I view Pence.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,513
    edited December 2019
    tempo_n_groove said:
    ikiT said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    ikiT said:
    I took my Bernie sign out of the window last nite outta respect for the office.

    It's back this morning.  executive privilege?  TESTIFY.  

    If only they had simple crime or misdemeanor (other than being a stone cold fascist dictator) they could pin on this divisive fucker.  good thing they have a few weeks over XMAS.

    Or...we'll be left chants of TSA TSA TSA or DSA DSA DSA echoing through history and the THUGGERY and intimidation will continue.

    Impeach Remove Pardon

    Is Mike Pence really that bad?


    I wouldn't want Pence in charge.
    Compared to Twitler?  for 10 months?  
    Remember Chaney?  That is how I view Pence.
    Cheney was 10x worse. That guy controlled the white house without being president and everyone knew it. Pence is nothing, but a limp Dick.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,027
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    josevolution said:
    Jason P said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jason P said:
    Well at least if Biden wins we will have a POTUS with an impeccable record and guarded public speaking that will in no way open himself up to the GOP using this as a precident to launch a similar show in a few years.  Whew.  
    So you think what Trump did with Ukraine is either acceptable or standard presidential behavior?
    What I think is that this will get shot down in the Senate. 
    So because of that looming scenario you believe this should of never been done? In other words let him do what ever he wants since he is the president..
    I would say that what he did goes on everyday in politics.  The Dems are so hellbent at ousting him that they found their shot and took it and will fail miserably.

    I tell you I am about fed up w politics and the lack of bipartisanship and please don't tell me it's all the rep fault.  That is what IS wrong w politics.
    It literally does not. Did you suffer a stroke? That's why hardly any republicans are agreeing with him that it was a "perfect call." 

    You think it's common for presidents to call upon foreign leaders and essentially ask them to interfere in our election for their own personal benefit? And then hold up much needed aid until they do? And then block a lawfully investigation into such an act?

    Ladies and gentlemen....welcome to the twilight zone. 


    What the fuck.




    You think it's common for presidents to call upon foreign leaders and essentially ask them to interfere in our election for their own personal benefit?

    I have a problem with this because that is not what happened.  Sorry, not buyng this for a second.  You can imply that but that is not what happened.
    You have lost your mind. 
    Trump wanted him investigated.  Where does it say that he wanted foreign countries to interfere w the election?  If that happened then I missed that.
    1. Trump didn't care if he was investigated, he cared that it was announced on cable news that he was going to be investigated.  
    2. We have laws on the books that provide a method for the DOJ to investigate the actions of US nationals in overseas dealings.  This is the proper and lawful method to handle such situation.  
    3. The administration was withholding congressionally appropriated aid until the announcement took place.  This aid was critical for the Ukrainian gov't to defend itself in an actual hot war.

    I feel like you really didn't pay attention to this whole deal.  
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,421
    josevolution said:
    Jason P said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jason P said:
    Well at least if Biden wins we will have a POTUS with an impeccable record and guarded public speaking that will in no way open himself up to the GOP using this as a precident to launch a similar show in a few years.  Whew.  
    So you think what Trump did with Ukraine is either acceptable or standard presidential behavior?
    What I think is that this will get shot down in the Senate. 
    So because of that looming scenario you believe this should of never been done? In other words let him do what ever he wants since he is the president..

    I may be wrong about it getting shot down in the senate if the plan was to never send it there.  We shall see. 
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,513
    mrussel1 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    The Juggler said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    josevolution said:
    Jason P said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jason P said:
    Well at least if Biden wins we will have a POTUS with an impeccable record and guarded public speaking that will in no way open himself up to the GOP using this as a precident to launch a similar show in a few years.  Whew.  
    So you think what Trump did with Ukraine is either acceptable or standard presidential behavior?
    What I think is that this will get shot down in the Senate. 
    So because of that looming scenario you believe this should of never been done? In other words let him do what ever he wants since he is the president..
    I would say that what he did goes on everyday in politics.  The Dems are so hellbent at ousting him that they found their shot and took it and will fail miserably.

    I tell you I am about fed up w politics and the lack of bipartisanship and please don't tell me it's all the rep fault.  That is what IS wrong w politics.
    It literally does not. Did you suffer a stroke? That's why hardly any republicans are agreeing with him that it was a "perfect call." 

    You think it's common for presidents to call upon foreign leaders and essentially ask them to interfere in our election for their own personal benefit? And then hold up much needed aid until they do? And then block a lawfully investigation into such an act?

    Ladies and gentlemen....welcome to the twilight zone. 


    What the fuck.




    You think it's common for presidents to call upon foreign leaders and essentially ask them to interfere in our election for their own personal benefit?

    I have a problem with this because that is not what happened.  Sorry, not buyng this for a second.  You can imply that but that is not what happened.
    You have lost your mind. 
    Trump wanted him investigated.  Where does it say that he wanted foreign countries to interfere w the election?  If that happened then I missed that.
    1. Trump didn't care if he was investigated, he cared that it was announced on cable news that he was going to be investigated.  
    2. We have laws on the books that provide a method for the DOJ to investigate the actions of US nationals in overseas dealings.  This is the proper and lawful method to handle such situation.  
    3. The administration was withholding congressionally appropriated aid until the announcement took place.  This aid was critical for the Ukrainian gov't to defend itself in an actual hot war.

    I feel like you really didn't pay attention to this whole deal.  
    No shit, and this isn't even coming from a devout Trump supporter, who you expect to be this ignorant.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Ledbetterman10
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    I think we may have impeachment proceedings for every president from here on out. If for nothing else, the sport of it. Even though it’ll lead to nothing, to successfully impeach the president will be a feather in the cap of these Dems. So the Republicans will surely try to impeach the next Democrat president whether it’s justified or not. 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,251
    2018
    Jason P said:
    josevolution said:
    Jason P said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Jason P said:
    Well at least if Biden wins we will have a POTUS with an impeccable record and guarded public speaking that will in no way open himself up to the GOP using this as a precident to launch a similar show in a few years.  Whew.  
    So you think what Trump did with Ukraine is either acceptable or standard presidential behavior?
    What I think is that this will get shot down in the Senate. 
    So because of that looming scenario you believe this should of never been done? In other words let him do what ever he wants since he is the president..

    I may be wrong about it getting shot down in the senate if the plan was to never send it there.  We shall see. 
    I too believe it will die in the Senate but feel it still has to be done to be on the record books that in 2019 the House did its constitutional duty 

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