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America's Gun Violence

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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,286
    https://apple.news/AORhgzVQjTGaNb3rEAPZ3Vg these can just brake out anytime anywhere!
    almost like tornadoes...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418
    And still...

    0 tyrannical governments overturned.  Good job America. Great fucking job, gun nuts.
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,539
    I know at least one occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue who could care less about the shooting or where the shooter was from.....


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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,286
    39 yrs ago today John Lennon was murdered here in NY city by a mad man who should of never been allowed to buy a gun & hollow bullets ...
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,539
    39 yrs ago today John Lennon was murdered here in NY city by a mad man who should of never been allowed to buy a gun & hollow bullets ...
    I hate to disagree with you but it was his god given right to own a gun and Hollow points and to use them to senselessly murder John Lennon.
    Just ask the bestest christian ever in the White House
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,286
    39 yrs ago today John Lennon was murdered here in NY city by a mad man who should of never been allowed to buy a gun & hollow bullets ...
    I hate to disagree with you but it was his god given right to own a gun and Hollow points and to use them to senselessly murder John Lennon.
    Just ask the bestest christian ever in the White House
    I stand corrected God rules! Plus he has been sent here by the almighty so alls good as long as Orange Baffoon says so ..
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,539
    edited December 2019
    Houston Police Chief gets it....

     Houston police chief criticizes McConnell and Senate Republicans over guns: 'Whose side are you on?'. https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/09/politics/houston-police-chief-senate-republicans-gun-violence-vawa/index.html

    Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo criticized Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and other Republican lawmakers for not reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act and taking action against gun violence, asking them in emotional remarks to choose between the nation's foremost gun lobby and "the children that are getting gunned down in this country every single day."
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,539
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,849
    We have some of the strictest gun laws in the country.  I'm gonna bet that the gun was illegally bought.  
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    mcgruff10 said:
    We have some of the strictest gun laws in the country.  I'm gonna bet that the gun was illegally bought.  
    From a “responsible” gun owner, I’m sure.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,849
    Pipe bombs?  yikes.
    https://www.nj.com/hudson/2019/12/one-police-officer-shot-as-gunman-open-fires-on-mlk-drive-in-jersey-city.html

    The two shooters, a man and a woman, were dressed in black. They arrived in the area in a U-Haul van, each carrying long guns into the supermarket, police said in radio transmissions. At 2:44 p.m. police reported in radio transmissions that “pipe bombs” were located in the U-Haul.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,849
    Weird how this story never really gained the traction it deserves.  Even here on the forums barely a peep.  I wonder why that is.  
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Weird how this story never really gained the traction it deserves.  Even here on the forums barely a peep.  I wonder why that is.  
    Do elaborate. Go on, talk about any aspect of it that you'd like. What I've read so far is not much different from most mass shootings in 'Murica, cop killed, innocents mowed down, maybe terrorism, maybe not, a community shaken, etc. What can you tell us?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN;

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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,849
    mcgruff10 said:
    Weird how this story never really gained the traction it deserves.  Even here on the forums barely a peep.  I wonder why that is.  
    Do elaborate. Go on, talk about any aspect of it that you'd like. What I've read so far is not much different from most mass shootings in 'Murica, cop killed, innocents mowed down, maybe terrorism, maybe not, a community shaken, etc. What can you tell us?
    Oh come
    on you are smarter than that.  You know exactly what I am talking about.   Mass killer is white and the news examines him for days.  This guy doesn’t fit the narrative.  Very sad.  
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    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Weird how this story never really gained the traction it deserves.  Even here on the forums barely a peep.  I wonder why that is.  
    Do elaborate. Go on, talk about any aspect of it that you'd like. What I've read so far is not much different from most mass shootings in 'Murica, cop killed, innocents mowed down, maybe terrorism, maybe not, a community shaken, etc. What can you tell us?
    Oh come
    on you are smarter than that.  You know exactly what I am talking about.   Mass killer is white and the news examines him for days.  This guy doesn’t fit the narrative.  Very sad.  
    Who were the perps? The last report I read from a NJ newspaper didn't identify the perps, their motive or anything. All I got was a cop was killed in a cemetary prior to the downtown shoot out. I don't even think Drudge covered it today? If they did, I missed the headline and link.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN;

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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,849
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Weird how this story never really gained the traction it deserves.  Even here on the forums barely a peep.  I wonder why that is.  
    Do elaborate. Go on, talk about any aspect of it that you'd like. What I've read so far is not much different from most mass shootings in 'Murica, cop killed, innocents mowed down, maybe terrorism, maybe not, a community shaken, etc. What can you tell us?
    Oh come
    on you are smarter than that.  You know exactly what I am talking about.   Mass killer is white and the news examines him for days.  This guy doesn’t fit the narrative.  Very sad.  
    Who were the perps? The last report I read from a NJ newspaper didn't identify the perps, their motive or anything. All I got was a cop was killed in a cemetary prior to the downtown shoot out. I don't even think Drudge covered it today? If they did, I missed the headline and link.
    My bad on that sir.  I figured you saw it.  here's a link:
    https://www.nj.com/news/2019/12/what-we-know-about-the-shooters-who-killed-a-cop-and-targeted-a-kosher-market-in-jersey-city.html
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    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Weird how this story never really gained the traction it deserves.  Even here on the forums barely a peep.  I wonder why that is.  
    Do elaborate. Go on, talk about any aspect of it that you'd like. What I've read so far is not much different from most mass shootings in 'Murica, cop killed, innocents mowed down, maybe terrorism, maybe not, a community shaken, etc. What can you tell us?
    Oh come
    on you are smarter than that.  You know exactly what I am talking about.   Mass killer is white and the news examines him for days.  This guy doesn’t fit the narrative.  Very sad.  
    Who were the perps? The last report I read from a NJ newspaper didn't identify the perps, their motive or anything. All I got was a cop was killed in a cemetary prior to the downtown shoot out. I don't even think Drudge covered it today? If they did, I missed the headline and link.
    My bad on that sir.  I figured you saw it.  here's a link:
    https://www.nj.com/news/2019/12/what-we-know-about-the-shooters-who-killed-a-cop-and-targeted-a-kosher-market-in-jersey-city.html
    Extremist ideology and lax gun laws from state to state, easy accessibility to fire arms and ammunition by convicted felons in ‘Murica leads to what happened in Jersey City. Make the body count double digits and it’d get more attention. Just another day in ‘Murica.
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,114
    mcgruff10 said:
    We have some of the strictest gun laws in the country.  I'm gonna bet that the gun was illegally bought.  


    Until we install Customs like borders around every state, state gun laws are completely meaningless.
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,539
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    Why can’t we be like this?

    https://apple.news/A3FPXFYeaRgSh1yVeGClD3g
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,703
    edited December 2019
    I wonder how much gun violence could be prevented if this wasnt so.....


    Updated Dec. 4, 1:33 p.m. | The FBI never completes hundreds of thousands of gun background checks each year because of a deadline that requires it to purge them from its computers, despite a report that raised alarms about the practice in 2015.

    The data obtained by CQ Roll Call, which has not been previously published, shows how the FBI still struggles to complete background checks four years after a breakdown in the system contributed to a shooting in Charleston, South Carolina, that left nine black churchgoers dead.

    A 2015 internal report on what went wrong in that case recommended ways to decrease the number of background checks that take longer than 88 days. After that point, the FBI must purge checks from its computers. That year, the bureau processed more than 8.9 million checks and never completed 200,360. That number rose in 2016 and 2017 before a slight dip last year, when the FBI processed 8.2 million checks but did not complete 201,323.

     


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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,703
    edited December 2019
     

    All told, the FBI did not complete over 1.1 million background checks from 2014 through July 2019. 

    Since the data is purged, it’s impossible to know how many of those people have purchased guns without a completed background check — or how many  purchases would have been blocked if the background checks were complete. 

    “Based on this data, it would be illogical to argue that Americans are more safe today than they were in 2015,” said W. Mullins McLeod Jr., who represents several families of Charleston victims. The families are suing the federal government over what they say was FBI negligence that allowed shooter Dylann Roof to buy a gun despite a previous drug arrest that should have prohibited him.

    The FBI said in a statement that it needs "accurate, complete and timely information" from other law enforcement agencies to complete a background check. Often, the FBI has to request incident reports or other records at the time of a check because they are not already in its databases.

    "Sometimes this information is not available, the agency doesn’t respond, or a response is delayed," the bureau said. "The NICS Section continues working the transaction until required by law to purge it from the NICS."

    The National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS, is the official term for the gun background check system. It is meant to ensure that people who can’t legally buy a gun — like those convicted of a felony or under a restraining orders — don’t buy one from a licensed dealer. The FBI can usually give the dealer an immediate answer. But it has to delay about 11 percent of sales to do more research.



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    A dude w a machete went ballistic on a house full of worshiping Jews.  Does that get any headlines?
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,822
    A dude w a machete went ballistic on a house full of worshiping Jews.  Does that get any headlines?

    Yeah, tons, including NYT front page, plus most other major news agencies, including in Canada and internationally. Are you suggesting it isn't being covered because it wasn't a firearm?
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    A dude w a machete went ballistic on a house full of worshiping Jews.  Does that get any headlines?

    Yeah, tons, including NYT front page, plus most other major news agencies, including in Canada and internationally. Are you suggesting it isn't being covered because it wasn't a firearm?
    You know what?  I should be glad that someone hasn't posted the article.  Not everything should be doom and gloom on here.  But yes, because there was no gun used it will soon be forgotten.
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    A dude w a machete went ballistic on a house full of worshiping Jews.  Does that get any headlines?

    Yeah, tons, including NYT front page, plus most other major news agencies, including in Canada and internationally. Are you suggesting it isn't being covered because it wasn't a firearm?
    You know what?  I should be glad that someone hasn't posted the article.  Not everything should be doom and gloom on here.  But yes, because there was no gun used it will soon be forgotten.
    Machete attack with multiple victims happens about once a year, maybe? Gun attack with multiple victims happens multiple times a day in ‘Murica. Only double digit body counts seem to matter so immune are we. Anyone remember Parkland? How about Pulse? Maybe Vegas? Nah.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN;

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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,822
    A dude w a machete went ballistic on a house full of worshiping Jews.  Does that get any headlines?

    Yeah, tons, including NYT front page, plus most other major news agencies, including in Canada and internationally. Are you suggesting it isn't being covered because it wasn't a firearm?
    You know what?  I should be glad that someone hasn't posted the article.  Not everything should be doom and gloom on here.  But yes, because there was no gun used it will soon be forgotten.
    Every incident is soon forgotten by everyone but the victims and their loved ones. 

    It’s getting headlines now, regardless of the method. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
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