***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,540
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dignin said:
    OnWis97 said:
    It seems Barr has shown his hand as a partisan hack.  Thank goodness for him nobody cares about that kind of thing anymore.

    The fact of the matter is that, in waging a scorched earth, no-holds-barred war of “Resistance” against this Administration, it is the Left that is engaged in the systematic shredding of norms and the undermining of the rule of law.  This highlights a basic disadvantage that conservatives have always had in contesting the political issues of the day.  It was adverted to by the old, curmudgeonly Federalist, Fisher Ames, in an essay during the early years of the Republic. 

    In any age, the so-called progressives treat politics as their religion.  Their holy mission is to use the coercive power of the State to remake man and society in their own image, according to an abstract ideal of perfection.  Whatever means they use are therefore justified because, by definition, they are a virtuous people pursing a deific end.  They are willing to use any means necessary to gain momentary advantage in achieving their end, regardless of collateral consequences and the systemic implications.  They never ask whether the actions they take could be justified as a general rule of conduct, equally applicable to all sides. 

    Conservatives, on the other hand, do not seek an earthly paradise.  We are interested in preserving over the long run the proper balance of freedom and order necessary for healthy development of natural civil society and individual human flourishing.  This means that we naturally test the propriety and wisdom of action under a “rule of law” standard.  The essence of this standard is to ask what the overall impact on society over the long run if the action we are taking, or principle we are applying, in a given circumstance was universalized – that is, would it be good for society over the long haul if this was done in all like circumstances?

    For these reasons, conservatives tend to have more scruple over their political tactics and rarely feel that the ends justify the means.  And this is as it should be, but there is no getting around the fact that this puts conservatives at a disadvantage when facing progressive holy far, especially when doing so under the weight of a hyper-partisan media


    https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/attorney-general-william-p-barr-delivers-19th-annual-barbara-k-olson-memorial-lecture

     

    Were fucked.

    The hilarious thing is that CYA Barr said all of that in defense of Team Trump Treason, who doesn’t have the intellect to understand a word of it. Let that sink in. Suckers.
    eh, it was for a dinner at the federslist society. he was preaching to the choir..
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,373
    mickeyrat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dignin said:
    OnWis97 said:
    It seems Barr has shown his hand as a partisan hack.  Thank goodness for him nobody cares about that kind of thing anymore.

    The fact of the matter is that, in waging a scorched earth, no-holds-barred war of “Resistance” against this Administration, it is the Left that is engaged in the systematic shredding of norms and the undermining of the rule of law.  This highlights a basic disadvantage that conservatives have always had in contesting the political issues of the day.  It was adverted to by the old, curmudgeonly Federalist, Fisher Ames, in an essay during the early years of the Republic. 

    In any age, the so-called progressives treat politics as their religion.  Their holy mission is to use the coercive power of the State to remake man and society in their own image, according to an abstract ideal of perfection.  Whatever means they use are therefore justified because, by definition, they are a virtuous people pursing a deific end.  They are willing to use any means necessary to gain momentary advantage in achieving their end, regardless of collateral consequences and the systemic implications.  They never ask whether the actions they take could be justified as a general rule of conduct, equally applicable to all sides. 

    Conservatives, on the other hand, do not seek an earthly paradise.  We are interested in preserving over the long run the proper balance of freedom and order necessary for healthy development of natural civil society and individual human flourishing.  This means that we naturally test the propriety and wisdom of action under a “rule of law” standard.  The essence of this standard is to ask what the overall impact on society over the long run if the action we are taking, or principle we are applying, in a given circumstance was universalized – that is, would it be good for society over the long haul if this was done in all like circumstances?

    For these reasons, conservatives tend to have more scruple over their political tactics and rarely feel that the ends justify the means.  And this is as it should be, but there is no getting around the fact that this puts conservatives at a disadvantage when facing progressive holy far, especially when doing so under the weight of a hyper-partisan media


    https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/attorney-general-william-p-barr-delivers-19th-annual-barbara-k-olson-memorial-lecture

     

    Were fucked.

    The hilarious thing is that CYA Barr said all of that in defense of Team Trump Treason, who doesn’t have the intellect to understand a word of it. Let that sink in. Suckers.
    eh, it was for a dinner at the federslist society. he was preaching to the choir..
    In defense of the least intellectually interested POTUS ever. Yea, eh.
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  • EdsonNascimento
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    Lol.  Media lauding Schiff getting lots of cheers....at a California convention of Democrats.   Lol. 
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    2018
    Schiff, smart, thoughtful, well spoken, composed.

    and

    Gym Jordan, Gaetz, Nunes.


    It's like Globe Trotters v Generals.

    only a few deplorables fall for it.
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,378
    2019
    Smellyman said:
    Schiff, smart, thoughtful, well spoken, composed.

    and

    Gym Jordan, Gaetz, Nunes.


    It's like Globe Trotters v Generals.

    only a few deplorables fall for it.
    Awww, c'mon, leave @EdsonNascimento out of it. :rofl:
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,383
    EdsonNascimento said:
    Lol.  Media lauding Schiff getting lots of cheers....at a California convention of Democrats.   Lol. 
    Lol. Things gets immensely less defensible for your side and yet, like clockwork, here you are again. Lol. 

    I'll try not to present myself with your level of smug arrogance when your party's lost what little respect for it remains, the power they possess follows shortly behind, and you're left with absolutely no one with power to represent your ideals or lack thereof. Certainly you'll blame Democrats for that too, but it'll be your own fault.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    2018
    Gaetz.   What a douche.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Of course Team Trump Treason did.

    https://apple.news/ATwsNP2EoRvyazWQ_1difsA
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    And that 25%? Team Trump Treason’s deplorable base.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    And the IRS whistle blower case advances because you know,

    “There was no collusion.”
    “I have nothing to hide.”
    “I don’t know any Russians.”
    “I’ll sit down and talk with anyone.”
    “We do everything by the book.”
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”
    “Fully exonerated.”
    “Essentially no obstruction.”
    “Very friendly and totally appropriate.”
    “No quid pro quo.”

    Follow the damn money from Russia with love and a PTape all the way to impeachment.
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  • josevolution
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    https://images.app.goo.gl/tV7XW9z4peyGjYkt9
    With each passing day these keep getting hammered in!
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CM189191
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    Paul Erickson pleads guilty, takes plea deal
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,489
    CM189191 said:
    Paul Erickson pleads guilty, takes plea deal

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    CM189191 said:
    Paul Erickson pleads guilty, takes plea deal

    They looked perfect together.  So sad. 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
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    That fish is up to no good.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
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    2019
    Only one poll, but first one after last week's hearings. 70% of Americans think what he did was wrong. 57% want him impeached. 51% want him impeached and removed from office. Only 25% say what he did was not wrong--ie: he's not holding his base.

    Seems to me like this week's testimonies could be a lot more damaging than last week's. Wonder what the polling will look like after they're done?

    Saddle up, folks.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
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    Vindy came in full military regalia. 

    sweet




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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,489
    Lets Go!
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
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    ikiT said:
    Vindy came in full military regalia. 

    sweet




    He's active duty.  It makes for powerful TV.  

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