America's Gun Violence

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,193
    Gern Blansten said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:


    THis is 600 rounds for a .380....10,000 rounds would be roughly $2,500 and amount to 17 of those boxes.  That's stockpiling ammo whether your intentions are good or not.
    You picked a pistol cartridge, I'm guessing the guy we keep talking about  bought 5.56 or .223.  But whatever, I don't think 10k rounds is a lot.  I "stockpile" certain types of ammo because sometimes I get a good deal (.22lr, surplus 30.06 or 7.62x54r for example).
    Right so even more expensive and requiring more boxes.  17 boxes....I'm guessing you don't go spend $2,500-$3,000 on ammo.
    No, I ll spend up to $400 if it is a good deal. I see what you are saying. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    From what I’ve seen, most people stock up on goods when they think the prices are about to skyrocket or supply will become scarce.  Politicians on the left (and some peeps on here)like to talk about taxing ammo to make it unaffordable....so any time it looks like a Democrat will get elected, people stock up while it is still available and cheap.  From a marketing standpoint, firearm and ammo manufacturers’ profits go through the roof the more gun control is politicized.
    Point is, it really doesn’t shock me when I hear of someone, especially competitive shooters, “stockpiling”.  
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,731
    We aren't talking about competitive shooters.  We are talking about a guy threatening to kill federal agents.

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  • PJPOWER
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    Gern Blansten said:
    We aren't talking about competitive shooters.  We are talking about a guy threatening to kill federal agents.

    That’s irrelevant to the point I mentioned.  Many times people are shocked when the media says someone owns a lot of ammo...which is actually fairly normal in the good ol’ USA.  The reasons that has become normalized are probably of greater concern.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,731
    PJPOWER said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    We aren't talking about competitive shooters.  We are talking about a guy threatening to kill federal agents.

    That’s irrelevant to the point I mentioned.  Many times people are shocked when the media says someone owns a lot of ammo...which is actually fairly normal in the good ol’ USA.  The reasons that has become normalized are probably of greater concern.
    It isn't normal.  I'm a gun owner.  10,000 rounds isn't normal.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,193
    Gern Blansten said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    We aren't talking about competitive shooters.  We are talking about a guy threatening to kill federal agents.

    That’s irrelevant to the point I mentioned.  Many times people are shocked when the media says someone owns a lot of ammo...which is actually fairly normal in the good ol’ USA.  The reasons that has become normalized are probably of greater concern.
    It isn't normal.  I'm a gun owner.  10,000 rounds isn't normal.
    What guns do you own? How often do you shoot?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2019
    Gern Blansten said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    We aren't talking about competitive shooters.  We are talking about a guy threatening to kill federal agents.

    That’s irrelevant to the point I mentioned.  Many times people are shocked when the media says someone owns a lot of ammo...which is actually fairly normal in the good ol’ USA.  The reasons that has become normalized are probably of greater concern.
    It isn't normal.  I'm a gun owner.  10,000 rounds isn't normal.
    I get it, I sure could not afford that kind of stockpile, but I would be willing to bet it is more normal across the country than you think.  Making threats against federal agents, that is what is not normal.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mcgruff10 said:
    oftenreading said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Yeah go shoot up a piece of paper or something.
    Very adult of you.  Good burn.
    Thanks....thought of that off the top of my head
    I'm waiting for the part where I don't know what I am talking about.  That is what I was hoping for.
    If you get ticketed for jay walking are you a responsible gun owner?
    I would have hoped that the average gun owner sees the difference between threats of violence and jay walking. Maybe not. 
     
    I would have hoped the average Canadian would recognize sarcasm. Maybe not.  


    Sure, because you are always sarcastic about gun use. 
     
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    PJPOWER said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    We aren't talking about competitive shooters.  We are talking about a guy threatening to kill federal agents.

    That’s irrelevant to the point I mentioned.  Many times people are shocked when the media says someone owns a lot of ammo...which is actually fairly normal in the good ol’ USA.  The reasons that has become normalized are probably of greater concern.
    It isn't normal.  I'm a gun owner.  10,000 rounds isn't normal.
    I get it, I sure could not afford that kind of stockpile, but I would be willing to bet it is more normal across the country than you think.  Making threats against federal agents, that is what is not normal.
    Your addiction to and your laws surrounding guns are what is not normal. 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    We aren't talking about competitive shooters.  We are talking about a guy threatening to kill federal agents.

    That’s irrelevant to the point I mentioned.  Many times people are shocked when the media says someone owns a lot of ammo...which is actually fairly normal in the good ol’ USA.  The reasons that has become normalized are probably of greater concern.
    It isn't normal.  I'm a gun owner.  10,000 rounds isn't normal.
    I get it, I sure could not afford that kind of stockpile, but I would be willing to bet it is more normal across the country than you think.  Making threats against federal agents, that is what is not normal.
    Your addiction to and your laws surrounding guns are what is not normal. 
    Noted...
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,193
    Renfield said:
    Meltdown99 said:

    No more hostages, just the shooter who is barricaded inside. 

    Man who shot 6 Philadelphia cops and held police in lengthy standoff taken into custody, authorities say

    A gunman who opened fire on Philadelphia police Wednesday as they were serving a drug warrant, wounding six officers and triggering a standoff that extended into the night, is in police custody, authorities said.

    Philadelphia police Sgt. Eric Gripp said early Thursday that the man was taken into custody after an hours-long standoff with police. The man was identified by 6abc.com as Eric Hill, 34. Hill has a lengthy rap sheet of drug offenses dating to 2003, the television station said.

    The shooting began around 4:30 p.m. as officers went to a home in a north Philadelphia neighborhood of brick and stone rowhomes to serve a narcotics warrant in an operation "that went awry almost immediately," Philadelphia Police Commissioner Richard Ross said.

    Many officers "had to escape through windows and doors to get (away) from a barrage of bullets," Ross said.

    The six officers who were struck by gunfire have been released from hospitals, Gripp said.

    article continues here: https://www.nj.com/news/2019/08/man-who-shot-6-philadelphia-cops-and-held-police-in-lengthy-standoff-taken-into-custody-authorities-say.html

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,731
    Sounds like a responsible gun owner.  I wonder if he got a price break on his ammo by buying in bulk.
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Gern Blansten said:
    Sounds like a responsible gun owner.  I wonder if he got a price break on his ammo by buying in bulk.
    How was he a responsible gun owner?  Did you miss the part of the story about the past drug offenses?
    You mentioned that you are a gun owner...are you “responsible”?
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,133
    PJPOWER said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Sounds like a responsible gun owner.  I wonder if he got a price break on his ammo by buying in bulk.
    How was he a responsible gun owner?  Did you miss the part of the story about the past drug offenses?
    You mentioned that you are a gun owner...are you “responsible”?
    Somewhere along the line from production to sale of the firearms he possessed, a “responsible” gun owner was “responsible.” Unless you believe in the gun fairy, answering wishes and prayers and leaving them under pillows?
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2019
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Sounds like a responsible gun owner.  I wonder if he got a price break on his ammo by buying in bulk.
    How was he a responsible gun owner?  Did you miss the part of the story about the past drug offenses?
    You mentioned that you are a gun owner...are you “responsible”?
    Somewhere along the line from production to sale of the firearms he possessed, a “responsible” gun owner was “responsible.” Unless you believe in the gun fairy, answering wishes and prayers and leaving them under pillows?
    Thanks for the nonsense, but that wasn’t really was was being commented on...
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,133
    edited August 2019
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Sounds like a responsible gun owner.  I wonder if he got a price break on his ammo by buying in bulk.
    How was he a responsible gun owner?  Did you miss the part of the story about the past drug offenses?
    You mentioned that you are a gun owner...are you “responsible”?
    Somewhere along the line from production to sale of the firearms he possessed, a “responsible” gun owner was “responsible.” Unless you believe in the gun fairy, answering wishes and prayers and leaving them under pillows?
    Thanks for the nonsense, but that wasn’t really the question that was asked.
    Denial isn’t a river in Egypt. So, how does a person with past drug offenses come into possession of firearms, if not for “responsible” gun owners? And how does it happen in Tejas?
     
    Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on
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  • mrussel1
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    PJPOWER said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Sounds like a responsible gun owner.  I wonder if he got a price break on his ammo by buying in bulk.
    How was he a responsible gun owner?  Did you miss the part of the story about the past drug offenses?
    You mentioned that you are a gun owner...are you “responsible”?
    To be fair,  according to some of the logic here,  so long as his past drug offenses didn't include a firearm,  he's still a responsible gun owner.  Personally,  I would consider him a gun owner AND irresponsible. 
  • PJPOWER
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    edited August 2019
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Sounds like a responsible gun owner.  I wonder if he got a price break on his ammo by buying in bulk.
    How was he a responsible gun owner?  Did you miss the part of the story about the past drug offenses?
    You mentioned that you are a gun owner...are you “responsible”?
    Somewhere along the line from production to sale of the firearms he possessed, a “responsible” gun owner was “responsible.” Unless you believe in the gun fairy, answering wishes and prayers and leaving them under pillows?
    Thanks for the nonsense, but that wasn’t really the question that was asked.
    Denial isn’t a river in Egypt. So, how does a person with past drug offenses come into possession of firearms, if not for “responsible” gun owners? And how does it happen in Tejas?
     
    We have a fairy that waves her magic wand and makes all guns disappear.  We just don’t use her very often.  Maybe we need that Ironman glove that can house the infinity stones to help!

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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Sounds like a responsible gun owner.  I wonder if he got a price break on his ammo by buying in bulk.
    How was he a responsible gun owner?  Did you miss the part of the story about the past drug offenses?
    You mentioned that you are a gun owner...are you “responsible”?
    To be fair,  according to some of the logic here,  so long as his past drug offenses didn't include a firearm,  he's still a responsible gun owner.  Personally,  I would consider him a gun owner AND irresponsible. 
    I must have missed that “logic”.  I was under the impression that it is illegal to own firearms if you are a convicted felon or have a rap sheet full of drug offenses.  Oh, wait, this shit-for-brains didn’t care.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Sounds like a responsible gun owner.  I wonder if he got a price break on his ammo by buying in bulk.
    How was he a responsible gun owner?  Did you miss the part of the story about the past drug offenses?
    You mentioned that you are a gun owner...are you “responsible”?
    To be fair,  according to some of the logic here,  so long as his past drug offenses didn't include a firearm,  he's still a responsible gun owner.  Personally,  I would consider him a gun owner AND irresponsible. 
    I must have missed that “logic”.  I was under the impression that it is illegal to own firearms if you are a convicted felon or have a rap sheet full of drug offenses.  Oh, wait, this shit-for-brains didn’t care.
    And neither did a “responsible” gun owner.
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