America's Gun Violence

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,196
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,196
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,196
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    edited August 2019
    Up in my neck of the woods, a day care center staff member found a loaded pistol in one of their kids' diaper bags last week. The gun belonged to the child's father (https://patch.com/massachusetts/peabody/loaded-gun-found-peabody-daycare-police), who "could" face charges.

    I would shake my head if it surprised me at all, but just this past school year, a student in my son's kindergarten class told the teacher that he was going to bring his dad's gun to school and shoot her, which of course prompted a lockdown and all the anxiety that comes with that. I know the dad. He's got one of those all-too-fashionable Hitler haircuts. I'm guessing he and his perpetually pregnant wife had a good chuckle over junior's trouble at school over the dinner table that night without a single visit from local law enforcement. I don't know. I guess these dads just can't wait to show their toxic little bastards their guns and tell them how they can be utilized to get rid of annoying teachers and whatnot.
    Post edited by dankind on
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    edited August 2019
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    Post edited by tempo_n_groove on
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,196
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     

    responsible gun owner? from what I have read, yes.


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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
    Is he a responsible driver?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited August 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
    Is he a responsible driver?
    He's a gun owner and he's irresponsible.. We're arguing semantics on what the adjective is modifying. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,196
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
    Is he a responsible driver?
    He's a gun owner and he's irresponsible.. We're arguing semantics on what the adjective is modifying. 
    The lengths the “responsible” gun owners will go.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
    Is he a responsible driver?
    He's a gun owner and he's irresponsible.. We're arguing semantics on what the adjective is modifying. 
    Well he must be an irresponsible driver too since he owns a car...

    It's not semantics.  He didn't do shit with his guns.  

    Again he may not be a good person but he didn't break any laws that I can see with his firearms.

    You may not like him or find him scary but that doesn't make him a gun toting criminal.

  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
    Is he a responsible driver?
    He's a gun owner and he's irresponsible.. We're arguing semantics on what the adjective is modifying. 
    Well he must be an irresponsible driver too since he owns a car...

    It's not semantics.  He didn't do shit with his guns.  

    Again he may not be a good person but he didn't break any laws that I can see with his firearms.

    You may not like him or find him scary but that doesn't make him a gun toting criminal.

    Agreed.  Now if he is found guilty of the charges should he continue to be able to own firearms?  My answer would be no.  
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,196
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
    Is he a responsible driver?
    Gee, I don’t know? Has he had his license suspended? Or post about how he was going to drive his legally modified Hummer with the cattle catcher grill down the sidewalk during the 4th of July parade or drive it through the entrance of a planned Parenthood on abortion day?
     
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    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
    Is he a responsible driver?
    Gee, I don’t know? Has he had his license suspended? Or post about how he was going to drive his legally modified Hummer with the cattle catcher grill down the sidewalk during the 4th of July parade or drive it through the entrance of a planned Parenthood on abortion day?
     
    Did he say he was going to gun down people?  The article doesn't site that either so he is a responsible gun owner...

    Now if you want to assume something then that is also different altogether...
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,372
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
    Is he a responsible driver?
    He's a gun owner and he's irresponsible.. We're arguing semantics on what the adjective is modifying. 
    Well he must be an irresponsible driver too since he owns a car...

    It's not semantics.  He didn't do shit with his guns.  

    Again he may not be a good person but he didn't break any laws that I can see with his firearms.

    You may not like him or find him scary but that doesn't make him a gun toting criminal.

    Agreed.  Now if he is found guilty of the charges should he continue to be able to own firearms?  My answer would be no.  
    He'd be a felon so of course "No"
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,196
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh look! Another “responsible” gun owner. And a white male. Don’t forget your bullet proof backpack and bleed out kits boys and girls.

    https://apple.news/A7hpPKC_8R0upSP0MPknttA
    Did he actually make threats?  I thought he was speaking matter of fact?

    The guy I'm sure has a screw loose but if that is all he wrote in that article then I would say we have a problem w government and yes, they will come knocking on your door.

    Someone else talked about the Red Flag laws and where do they stop and start?  This case is as good as any to start that discussion.
    Is this the type of “responsible” you expect from a “responsible” gun owner?

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2019/08/14/feds-ohio-man-who-threatened-agents-lived-gun-filled-house/2005847001/
    Same person, same vague statement in the article.  If you can find time to answer my question now, thanks.
    He wrote, “that he supported mass shootings and attacks on Planned Parenthood.” Again, do you consider that “responsible” of a “responsible” gun owner. Now, can you find the time to answer my question? Thanks.
     
    He never did anything with the guns so he is still responsible.

    He may be a nut but he didn't do anything wrong.

    I really wish they would quote what he actually said because things get twisted when reporting things 2nd hand.

    This is walking the slippery slope and using him as an example will help tilt things in your favor but in reality he didn't do anything with his guns.

    Thankfully they were only "rifles".  Lord help us if they mentioned "assault" or AR or AK rifles!!!  Then this story would really have some meat to it.


    I’m sure someone with the time and better research skills could find the court filing that might just reference or quote verbatim his online posts. What I find interesting is that your reaction appears to be “meh.” Do you think he should undergo a mental health assessment? And, provided the reporting is accurate regarding his online posts, is he indicative of a “responsible” gun owner? Your answer is a “yes” I believe. Maybe I should poll those “responsible” gun owners and see how great the potential divide?
    You asked if they are a responsible gun owner?  Yes.  Nothing proves that they are otherwise.

    If you ask me should they be allowed to own guns would be different all together.

    If you asked me is he a responsible person that is also something different.

    Ask about their character is different then asking about what they did or didn't do with their guns.

    Edit:

    Asking a polling question about public opinion is much different than actual rules of law.  Poll away though.
    How do your argue that those comments online are responsible?
    Who's arguing that they are?  I'm not in the slightest.
    And yet you consider the suspect a “responsible” gun owner? 
     
    Is he a responsible driver?
    Gee, I don’t know? Has he had his license suspended? Or post about how he was going to drive his legally modified Hummer with the cattle catcher grill down the sidewalk during the 4th of July parade or drive it through the entrance of a planned Parenthood on abortion day?
     
    Did he say he was going to gun down people?  The article doesn't site that either so he is a responsible gun owner...

    Now if you want to assume something then that is also different altogether...
    He threatened the lives of federal law enforcement officers, spoke approvingly of mass shootings and sung the praises of two shit bag domestic terrorists. Threatening to “gun down people” is the crossed
    line? Or is it to wait and see?
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