America's Gun Violence

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,375
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Factor by which more Americans died in school shootings than in combat last year : 3

    https://harpers.org/archive/2019/08/harpers-index-august-2019/
    I'll take a stab that the magazine leans a little left?
    I guess these guys and gals lean a little left too?

    30 Center for Homeland Defense and Security, Naval Postgraduate School (Monterey, Calif.)/U.S. Department of Defense
    Is this a "whataboutism"?  I asked about the magazine.
    Sure, the magazine leans a little left but the information presented came from the organization cited.
    Cmon then.  You can pull any piece of info you want and correlate it into your own agenda, we all know this.  Hell that's what we use google for now right?
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Factor by which more Americans died in school shootings than in combat last year : 3

    https://harpers.org/archive/2019/08/harpers-index-august-2019/
    I'll take a stab that the magazine leans a little left?
    I guess these guys and gals lean a little left too?

    30 Center for Homeland Defense and Security, Naval Postgraduate School (Monterey, Calif.)/U.S. Department of Defense
    Is this a "whataboutism"?  I asked about the magazine.
    Sure, the magazine leans a little left but the information presented came from the organization cited.
    Cmon then.  You can pull any piece of info you want and correlate it into your own agenda, we all know this.  Hell that's what we use google for now right?
    What’s your point then? Are you disputing the claim posted or not? 
     
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,375
    oftenreading said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Factor by which more Americans died in school shootings than in combat last year : 3

    https://harpers.org/archive/2019/08/harpers-index-august-2019/
    I'll take a stab that the magazine leans a little left?
    I guess these guys and gals lean a little left too?

    30 Center for Homeland Defense and Security, Naval Postgraduate School (Monterey, Calif.)/U.S. Department of Defense
    Is this a "whataboutism"?  I asked about the magazine.
    Sure, the magazine leans a little left but the information presented came from the organization cited.
    Cmon then.  You can pull any piece of info you want and correlate it into your own agenda, we all know this.  Hell that's what we use google for now right?
    What’s your point then? Are you disputing the claim posted or not? 
     
    I believe my point was, but maybe mistaken, that the publication was very left leaning, the comment after is a "whataboutism" and that pieces of info plucked from certain places can be used for their own agenda.

    I think that was my point(s)?  Not sure.

    You tell me what they were.   

    Disputing wasn't on my list of points though.  That much I'm sure of.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,199
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Factor by which more Americans died in school shootings than in combat last year : 3

    https://harpers.org/archive/2019/08/harpers-index-august-2019/
    I'll take a stab that the magazine leans a little left?
    I guess these guys and gals lean a little left too?

    30 Center for Homeland Defense and Security, Naval Postgraduate School (Monterey, Calif.)/U.S. Department of Defense
    Is this a "whataboutism"?  I asked about the magazine.
    Sure, the magazine leans a little left but the information presented came from the organization cited.
    Cmon then.  You can pull any piece of info you want and correlate it into your own agenda, we all know this.  Hell that's what we use google for now right?
    Harpers Index is vetted and uses reputable sources of data with the source cited. Whether it’s in a magazine that leans a little left is irrelevant. They also will retract and print a correction if they get called out on their data. Further, Harpers Magazine has been published weekly since 1850, a real failure. I know, facts don’t matter.
     
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,375
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Factor by which more Americans died in school shootings than in combat last year : 3

    https://harpers.org/archive/2019/08/harpers-index-august-2019/
    I'll take a stab that the magazine leans a little left?
    I guess these guys and gals lean a little left too?

    30 Center for Homeland Defense and Security, Naval Postgraduate School (Monterey, Calif.)/U.S. Department of Defense
    Is this a "whataboutism"?  I asked about the magazine.
    Sure, the magazine leans a little left but the information presented came from the organization cited.
    Cmon then.  You can pull any piece of info you want and correlate it into your own agenda, we all know this.  Hell that's what we use google for now right?
    Harpers Index is vetted and uses reputable sources of data with the source cited. Whether it’s in a magazine that leans a little left is irrelevant. They also will retract and print a correction if they get called out on their data. Further, Harpers Magazine has been published weekly since 1850, a real failure. I know, facts don’t matter.
     
    Read last point of my last post.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,375
    Oh and I should have said the article is "jaded".

    That would have been a better fit perhaps?

    That's a fact, yes?
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,199
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Oh and I should have said the article is "jaded".

    That would have been a better fit perhaps?

    That's a fact, yes?
    I’m not sure what you’re driving at? Harpers Index is not an article. What’s “jaded?”
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    tempo_n_groove said:
    oftenreading said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Factor by which more Americans died in school shootings than in combat last year : 3

    https://harpers.org/archive/2019/08/harpers-index-august-2019/
    I'll take a stab that the magazine leans a little left?
    I guess these guys and gals lean a little left too?

    30 Center for Homeland Defense and Security, Naval Postgraduate School (Monterey, Calif.)/U.S. Department of Defense
    Is this a "whataboutism"?  I asked about the magazine.
    Sure, the magazine leans a little left but the information presented came from the organization cited.
    Cmon then.  You can pull any piece of info you want and correlate it into your own agenda, we all know this.  Hell that's what we use google for now right?
    What’s your point then? Are you disputing the claim posted or not? 
     
    I believe my point was, but maybe mistaken, that the publication was very left leaning, the comment after is a "whataboutism" and that pieces of info plucked from certain places can be used for their own agenda.

    I think that was my point(s)?  Not sure.

    You tell me what they were.   

    Disputing wasn't on my list of points though.  That much I'm sure of.

    It's up to you to articulate your point, not me.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,375
    oftenreading said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    oftenreading said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Factor by which more Americans died in school shootings than in combat last year : 3

    https://harpers.org/archive/2019/08/harpers-index-august-2019/
    I'll take a stab that the magazine leans a little left?
    I guess these guys and gals lean a little left too?

    30 Center for Homeland Defense and Security, Naval Postgraduate School (Monterey, Calif.)/U.S. Department of Defense
    Is this a "whataboutism"?  I asked about the magazine.
    Sure, the magazine leans a little left but the information presented came from the organization cited.
    Cmon then.  You can pull any piece of info you want and correlate it into your own agenda, we all know this.  Hell that's what we use google for now right?
    What’s your point then? Are you disputing the claim posted or not? 
     
    I believe my point was, but maybe mistaken, that the publication was very left leaning, the comment after is a "whataboutism" and that pieces of info plucked from certain places can be used for their own agenda.

    I think that was my point(s)?  Not sure.

    You tell me what they were.   

    Disputing wasn't on my list of points though.  That much I'm sure of.

    It's up to you to articulate your point, not me.
    My answer was meant to be...

    Oh never mind...
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,375
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Oh and I should have said the article is "jaded".

    That would have been a better fit perhaps?

    That's a fact, yes?
    I’m not sure what you’re driving at? Harpers Index is not an article. What’s “jaded?”
    Never mind, forget it.  We will be here all day.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Okay, that was pointless, but thank FSM we got it cleared up before it really went downhill. 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,375
    oftenreading said:
    Okay, that was pointless, but thank FSM we got it cleared up before it really went downhill. 
    It seems that you have a hard time comprehending what people write so I didn't bother going further.

    That ignore button I might actually start using, never thought I'd say that.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    oftenreading said:
    Okay, that was pointless, but thank FSM we got it cleared up before it really went downhill. 
    tempo_n_groove said:
    oftenreading said:
    Okay, that was pointless, but thank FSM we got it cleared up before it really went downhill. 
    It seems that you have a hard time comprehending what people write so I didn't bother going further.

    That ignore button I might actually start using, never thought I'd say that.
    I think what you both need are some sane swedish-esque gun laws.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,375
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    oftenreading said:
    Okay, that was pointless, but thank FSM we got it cleared up before it really went downhill. 
    tempo_n_groove said:
    oftenreading said:
    Okay, that was pointless, but thank FSM we got it cleared up before it really went downhill. 
    It seems that you have a hard time comprehending what people write so I didn't bother going further.

    That ignore button I might actually start using, never thought I'd say that.
    I think what you both need are some sane swedish-esque gun laws.
    I can go for a big fat bowl of crack right now.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Somewhere in the US, this group is heading off to go hunting...lol


    Remember you can only use one at a time.  
    I’m willing to bet there’s a picture of some “responsible” gun owner shooting more than one or two firearms at a time floating around YouTube and/or the interwebs, maybe even three or four.
    Explain to me how someone could fire three of four separate firearms at that same time.  

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,199
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Somewhere in the US, this group is heading off to go hunting...lol


    Remember you can only use one at a time.  
    I’m willing to bet there’s a picture of some “responsible” gun owner shooting more than one or two firearms at a time floating around YouTube and/or the interwebs, maybe even three or four.
    Explain to me how someone could fire three of four separate firearms at that same time.  

    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Somewhere in the US, this group is heading off to go hunting...lol


    Remember you can only use one at a time.  
    I’m willing to bet there’s a picture of some “responsible” gun owner shooting more than one or two firearms at a time floating around YouTube and/or the interwebs, maybe even three or four.
    Explain to me how someone could fire three of four separate firearms at that same time.  

    See! It is possible! Homer’s a genius! I always knew it!!

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Somewhere in the US, this group is heading off to go hunting...lol


    Remember you can only use one at a time.  
    I’m willing to bet there’s a picture of some “responsible” gun owner shooting more than one or two firearms at a time floating around YouTube and/or the interwebs, maybe even three or four.
    Explain to me how someone could fire three of four separate firearms at that same time.  

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,199
    Another “responsible” gun owner. But hey, take your damn shoes off!

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/asia/japan-gun-police-airport-intl-hnk/index.html
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  • cincybearcat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Another “responsible” gun owner. But hey, take your damn shoes off!

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/asia/japan-gun-police-airport-intl-hnk/index.html
    Well to be fair this time it was in a checked bag.

    You just know this guy knew he wasn't suppose to have a gun in Japan and was trying to sneak it in.  Loaded?  really?  I hope Japan uses the full weight of their laws here.  
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,199
    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Another “responsible” gun owner. But hey, take your damn shoes off!

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/asia/japan-gun-police-airport-intl-hnk/index.html
    Well to be fair this time it was in a checked bag.

    You just know this guy knew he wasn't suppose to have a gun in Japan and was trying to sneak it in.  Loaded?  really?  I hope Japan uses the full weight of their laws here.  
    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Another “responsible” gun owner. But hey, take your damn shoes off!

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/asia/japan-gun-police-airport-intl-hnk/index.html
    Well to be fair this time it was in a checked bag.

    You just know this guy knew he wasn't suppose to have a gun in Japan and was trying to sneak it in.  Loaded?  really?  I hope Japan uses the full weight of their laws here.  
    Someone who claims they don’t know how their gun ended up in their luggage, shouldn’t be allowed to own a gun. In any country.
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