America's Gun Violence
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Cmon then. You can pull any piece of info you want and correlate it into your own agenda, we all know this. Hell that's what we use google for now right?Halifax2TheMax said:
Sure, the magazine leans a little left but the information presented came from the organization cited.tempo_n_groove said:
Is this a "whataboutism"? I asked about the magazine.Halifax2TheMax said:
I guess these guys and gals lean a little left too?tempo_n_groove said:
I'll take a stab that the magazine leans a little left?Halifax2TheMax said:Factor by which more Americans died in school shootings than in combat last year : 3
https://harpers.org/archive/2019/08/harpers-index-august-2019/
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What’s your point then? Are you disputing the claim posted or not?tempo_n_groove said:
Cmon then. You can pull any piece of info you want and correlate it into your own agenda, we all know this. Hell that's what we use google for now right?Halifax2TheMax said:
Sure, the magazine leans a little left but the information presented came from the organization cited.tempo_n_groove said:
Is this a "whataboutism"? I asked about the magazine.Halifax2TheMax said:
I guess these guys and gals lean a little left too?tempo_n_groove said:
I'll take a stab that the magazine leans a little left?Halifax2TheMax said:Factor by which more Americans died in school shootings than in combat last year : 3
https://harpers.org/archive/2019/08/harpers-index-august-2019/
30 Center for Homeland Defense and Security, Naval Postgraduate School (Monterey, Calif.)/U.S. Department of Defense
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I believe my point was, but maybe mistaken, that the publication was very left leaning, the comment after is a "whataboutism" and that pieces of info plucked from certain places can be used for their own agenda.oftenreading said:
What’s your point then? Are you disputing the claim posted or not?tempo_n_groove said:
Cmon then. You can pull any piece of info you want and correlate it into your own agenda, we all know this. Hell that's what we use google for now right?Halifax2TheMax said:
Sure, the magazine leans a little left but the information presented came from the organization cited.tempo_n_groove said:
Is this a "whataboutism"? I asked about the magazine.Halifax2TheMax said:
I guess these guys and gals lean a little left too?tempo_n_groove said:
I'll take a stab that the magazine leans a little left?Halifax2TheMax said:Factor by which more Americans died in school shootings than in combat last year : 3
https://harpers.org/archive/2019/08/harpers-index-august-2019/
30 Center for Homeland Defense and Security, Naval Postgraduate School (Monterey, Calif.)/U.S. Department of Defense
I think that was my point(s)? Not sure.
You tell me what they were.
Disputing wasn't on my list of points though. That much I'm sure of.0 -
Harpers Index is vetted and uses reputable sources of data with the source cited. Whether it’s in a magazine that leans a little left is irrelevant. They also will retract and print a correction if they get called out on their data. Further, Harpers Magazine has been published weekly since 1850, a real failure. I know, facts don’t matter.tempo_n_groove said:
Cmon then. You can pull any piece of info you want and correlate it into your own agenda, we all know this. Hell that's what we use google for now right?Halifax2TheMax said:
Sure, the magazine leans a little left but the information presented came from the organization cited.tempo_n_groove said:
Is this a "whataboutism"? I asked about the magazine.Halifax2TheMax said:
I guess these guys and gals lean a little left too?tempo_n_groove said:
I'll take a stab that the magazine leans a little left?Halifax2TheMax said:Factor by which more Americans died in school shootings than in combat last year : 3
https://harpers.org/archive/2019/08/harpers-index-august-2019/
30 Center for Homeland Defense and Security, Naval Postgraduate School (Monterey, Calif.)/U.S. Department of Defense
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Read last point of my last post.Halifax2TheMax said:
Harpers Index is vetted and uses reputable sources of data with the source cited. Whether it’s in a magazine that leans a little left is irrelevant. They also will retract and print a correction if they get called out on their data. Further, Harpers Magazine has been published weekly since 1850, a real failure. I know, facts don’t matter.tempo_n_groove said:
Cmon then. You can pull any piece of info you want and correlate it into your own agenda, we all know this. Hell that's what we use google for now right?Halifax2TheMax said:
Sure, the magazine leans a little left but the information presented came from the organization cited.tempo_n_groove said:
Is this a "whataboutism"? I asked about the magazine.Halifax2TheMax said:
I guess these guys and gals lean a little left too?tempo_n_groove said:
I'll take a stab that the magazine leans a little left?Halifax2TheMax said:Factor by which more Americans died in school shootings than in combat last year : 3
https://harpers.org/archive/2019/08/harpers-index-august-2019/
30 Center for Homeland Defense and Security, Naval Postgraduate School (Monterey, Calif.)/U.S. Department of Defense
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Oh and I should have said the article is "jaded".
That would have been a better fit perhaps?
That's a fact, yes?0 -
I’m not sure what you’re driving at? Harpers Index is not an article. What’s “jaded?”tempo_n_groove said:Oh and I should have said the article is "jaded".
That would have been a better fit perhaps?
That's a fact, yes?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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tempo_n_groove said:
I believe my point was, but maybe mistaken, that the publication was very left leaning, the comment after is a "whataboutism" and that pieces of info plucked from certain places can be used for their own agenda.oftenreading said:
What’s your point then? Are you disputing the claim posted or not?tempo_n_groove said:
Cmon then. You can pull any piece of info you want and correlate it into your own agenda, we all know this. Hell that's what we use google for now right?Halifax2TheMax said:
Sure, the magazine leans a little left but the information presented came from the organization cited.tempo_n_groove said:
Is this a "whataboutism"? I asked about the magazine.Halifax2TheMax said:
I guess these guys and gals lean a little left too?tempo_n_groove said:
I'll take a stab that the magazine leans a little left?Halifax2TheMax said:Factor by which more Americans died in school shootings than in combat last year : 3
https://harpers.org/archive/2019/08/harpers-index-august-2019/
30 Center for Homeland Defense and Security, Naval Postgraduate School (Monterey, Calif.)/U.S. Department of Defense
I think that was my point(s)? Not sure.
You tell me what they were.
Disputing wasn't on my list of points though. That much I'm sure of.
It's up to you to articulate your point, not me.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
My answer was meant to be...oftenreading said:tempo_n_groove said:
I believe my point was, but maybe mistaken, that the publication was very left leaning, the comment after is a "whataboutism" and that pieces of info plucked from certain places can be used for their own agenda.oftenreading said:
What’s your point then? Are you disputing the claim posted or not?tempo_n_groove said:
Cmon then. You can pull any piece of info you want and correlate it into your own agenda, we all know this. Hell that's what we use google for now right?Halifax2TheMax said:
Sure, the magazine leans a little left but the information presented came from the organization cited.tempo_n_groove said:
Is this a "whataboutism"? I asked about the magazine.Halifax2TheMax said:
I guess these guys and gals lean a little left too?tempo_n_groove said:
I'll take a stab that the magazine leans a little left?Halifax2TheMax said:Factor by which more Americans died in school shootings than in combat last year : 3
https://harpers.org/archive/2019/08/harpers-index-august-2019/
30 Center for Homeland Defense and Security, Naval Postgraduate School (Monterey, Calif.)/U.S. Department of Defense
I think that was my point(s)? Not sure.
You tell me what they were.
Disputing wasn't on my list of points though. That much I'm sure of.
It's up to you to articulate your point, not me.
Oh never mind...0 -
Never mind, forget it. We will be here all day.Halifax2TheMax said:
I’m not sure what you’re driving at? Harpers Index is not an article. What’s “jaded?”tempo_n_groove said:Oh and I should have said the article is "jaded".
That would have been a better fit perhaps?
That's a fact, yes?0 -
Okay, that was pointless, but thank FSM we got it cleared up before it really went downhill.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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It seems that you have a hard time comprehending what people write so I didn't bother going further.oftenreading said:Okay, that was pointless, but thank FSM we got it cleared up before it really went downhill.
That ignore button I might actually start using, never thought I'd say that.0 -
oftenreading said:Okay, that was pointless, but thank FSM we got it cleared up before it really went downhill.
I think what you both need are some sane swedish-esque gun laws.tempo_n_groove said:
It seems that you have a hard time comprehending what people write so I didn't bother going further.oftenreading said:Okay, that was pointless, but thank FSM we got it cleared up before it really went downhill.
That ignore button I might actually start using, never thought I'd say that."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I can go for a big fat bowl of crack right now.Spiritual_Chaos said:oftenreading said:Okay, that was pointless, but thank FSM we got it cleared up before it really went downhill.
I think what you both need are some sane swedish-esque gun laws.tempo_n_groove said:
It seems that you have a hard time comprehending what people write so I didn't bother going further.oftenreading said:Okay, that was pointless, but thank FSM we got it cleared up before it really went downhill.
That ignore button I might actually start using, never thought I'd say that.0 -
mcgruff10 said:
Explain to me how someone could fire three of four separate firearms at that same time.Halifax2TheMax said:
I’m willing to bet there’s a picture of some “responsible” gun owner shooting more than one or two firearms at a time floating around YouTube and/or the interwebs, maybe even three or four.mcgruff10 said:
Remember you can only use one at a time.Meltdown99 said:Somewhere in the US, this group is heading off to go hunting...lol

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mace1229 said:mcgruff10 said:
Explain to me how someone could fire three of four separate firearms at that same time.Halifax2TheMax said:
I’m willing to bet there’s a picture of some “responsible” gun owner shooting more than one or two firearms at a time floating around YouTube and/or the interwebs, maybe even three or four.mcgruff10 said:
Remember you can only use one at a time.Meltdown99 said:Somewhere in the US, this group is heading off to go hunting...lol

See! It is possible! Homer’s a genius! I always knew it!!mace1229 said:mcgruff10 said:
Explain to me how someone could fire three of four separate firearms at that same time.Halifax2TheMax said:
I’m willing to bet there’s a picture of some “responsible” gun owner shooting more than one or two firearms at a time floating around YouTube and/or the interwebs, maybe even three or four.mcgruff10 said:
Remember you can only use one at a time.Meltdown99 said:Somewhere in the US, this group is heading off to go hunting...lol

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mcgruff10 said:
Explain to me how someone could fire three of four separate firearms at that same time.Halifax2TheMax said:
I’m willing to bet there’s a picture of some “responsible” gun owner shooting more than one or two firearms at a time floating around YouTube and/or the interwebs, maybe even three or four.mcgruff10 said:
Remember you can only use one at a time.Meltdown99 said:Somewhere in the US, this group is heading off to go hunting...lol

"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Another “responsible” gun owner. But hey, take your damn shoes off!
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/asia/japan-gun-police-airport-intl-hnk/index.html
09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Well to be fair this time it was in a checked bag.Halifax2TheMax said:Another “responsible” gun owner. But hey, take your damn shoes off!
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/asia/japan-gun-police-airport-intl-hnk/index.html
You just know this guy knew he wasn't suppose to have a gun in Japan and was trying to sneak it in. Loaded? really? I hope Japan uses the full weight of their laws here.hippiemom = goodness0 -
cincybearcat said:
Well to be fair this time it was in a checked bag.Halifax2TheMax said:Another “responsible” gun owner. But hey, take your damn shoes off!
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/asia/japan-gun-police-airport-intl-hnk/index.html
You just know this guy knew he wasn't suppose to have a gun in Japan and was trying to sneak it in. Loaded? really? I hope Japan uses the full weight of their laws here.
Someone who claims they don’t know how their gun ended up in their luggage, shouldn’t be allowed to own a gun. In any country.cincybearcat said:
Well to be fair this time it was in a checked bag.Halifax2TheMax said:Another “responsible” gun owner. But hey, take your damn shoes off!
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/asia/japan-gun-police-airport-intl-hnk/index.html
You just know this guy knew he wasn't suppose to have a gun in Japan and was trying to sneak it in. Loaded? really? I hope Japan uses the full weight of their laws here.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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